pete's dragon cut was started by UD member tttt and I was hoping tttt would repost the thread.
Basically he said that he had the 101m version and that he had just bought the 129m vrersion and since the movie is listed as being 134m long he was wondering what might be still cut.
A discussion of the various lengths over the years and the differences between PAL's 25 fps speed up timings and the normal movie's rate of 24fps ensued, and many contributed. UPDATE: It must have been Anders then that gave the exact running time of 105:37 for a version exhibited in Sweden. (see below
) I quoted Leonard Maltin's running times and made a table of all the the timings that had been mentioned, in 24fps and PAL, so we wouldnt be comparing apples to oranges. One member said the current video was exactly what he had seen in theaters in the 70's. Someone also quoted the imdb and i think that's were the running time of 92m for TV prints came from. Another member said that not all tv prints were in that short a length beacause he had seen (or taped?) one (in England?) that ran a little over 2 hours. Also If I recall correctly at one point someone said the NTSC disc was 129 and on another he said 128m, or that it contained the 128minute version. Then I wondered if tttt's 129m disc was a Pal or a NTSC one cus he was from Europe.
The reason I asked was cus 134m @ 24fps = 129m @ 25fps so i was wondering if there were a 129m PAL disc that would be the 134m cut and a shorter 128/129m NTSC one or if they were one and the same.
I think there were other various discussions of cut songs and version-y good stuff we UDies always talk about. So maybe some will repost their info.
L. Maltin:
Pete's Dragon (1977) C-134m. Some prints run 121m; the 1985 reissue was further cut to 104m.
numbers rounded up, except Lars'.
Movie/PAL
24fps/25fps
__________
134/129
129/124
128/123
121/116
105:37/101:24
105/101
104/100
92/89
I also mentioned that NTSC doesn't run films at exactly 24fps but in fact a little slower
A 120m movie lasts 7.2 seconds longer in NTSC than in "real" life.
Yes Virginia, there's such a thing as NTSC slow down
