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What song is mine again? Also This is the thanks I get sounding “cheerful” It’s supposed to be more subtle And maybe even ironic because magnifico is trying to state how “great” he thinks he is, from HIS point of view EH? It’s actually not even that cheerful, because he’s expressing how HE feels and how HE believes things should be (which they are not, which is what the main central conflict of the movie is :-)
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Mine is the song sung by the villain in Pocahontas, and also by John Smith. I forgot the villain's name, I didn't see the movie in a long time.

My point about This is the thanks I get is that it sounds more like a pop song, and it would be fine on its own. The chorus, with that du-du-du-du-du in the background is the part I dislike the most.
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Vlad wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:41 am Mine is the song sung by the villain in Pocahontas, and also by John Smith. I forgot the villain's name, I didn't see the movie in a long time.

My point about This is the thanks I get is that it sounds more like a pop song, and it would be fine on its own. The chorus, with that du-du-du-du-du in the background is the part I dislike the most.
Well also to be fair, Disney is primarily known for their pop songs/pop song covers of their music, and again movie that meant to homage 100 years, so it overall fits :-)
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Vlad wrote: Mon Jan 22, 2024 2:41 am Mine is the song sung by the villain in Pocahontas, and also by John Smith. I forgot the villain's name, I didn't see the movie in a long time.

My point about This is the thanks I get is that it sounds more like a pop song, and it would be fine on its own. The chorus, with that du-du-du-du-du in the background is the part I dislike the most.
Well also to be fair, Disney is primarily known for their pop songs/pop song covers of their music, and again this is a movie that is meant to homage 100 years, so it overall fits :-)
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If you like it, that's fine. I just don't :)
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Today only, Target offers a 20% discount on all Wish toys. So if you still want one of the dolls or playsets, today's a good opportunity to get them.
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Rachel Bibb: Got the opportunity to draw these wonderful characters from the past 100 years for the end credits on WISH. Then the effects magicians turned them into Stardust.

Q:Do you know why for BH6 the character picked was Yokai?! I think he’s the only villain chosen?

Rachel Bibb: There were lots of rights issues for some of the characters. The only BH6 character we had permission to use was Yokai because he was a new character, I think. Maleficent and Yzma are there too!
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"Exclusive: Watch a Deleted Scene From ‘Wish’ That Almost Changed The Entire Movie"

https://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainm ... exclusive/

It's a scene that features more interaction between Asha and her grandpa, plus the concept version of the story where the wishes are tied to to the wishing tree.
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From the deleted scenes, people fainting from Magnifico eating their wishes, so the people are in more trouble, and some people hiding in secret because the kingdom is not all happy, so there is more of a problem the movie has to solve, may have made for a better movie.
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Disney Duster wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:15 pm From the deleted scenes, people fainting from Magnifico eating their wishes, so the people are in more trouble, and some people hiding in secret because the kingdom is not all happy, so there is more of a problem the movie has to solve, may have made for a better movie.
That sounds deliciously morbid. Why are the best ideas always discarded? Who makes these decisions? :glare:
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Jules wrote: Tue Jan 30, 2024 3:49 pm
Disney Duster wrote: Mon Jan 29, 2024 9:15 pm From the deleted scenes, people fainting from Magnifico eating their wishes, so the people are in more trouble, and some people hiding in secret because the kingdom is not all happy, so there is more of a problem the movie has to solve, may have made for a better movie.
That sounds deliciously morbid. Why are the best ideas always discarded? Who makes these decisions? :glare:
I believe the term you're thinking of is "executive meddling."
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Since there's been talk about Wish's songs, I wanted to leave a comparison to chew on.

In 2023, two movie musicals came out featuring an evil king: Wish, and Journey to Bethlehem (a Bible musical with songs written by Swedish music producers who have experience in pop music for Selena Gomez, Madonna, Backstreet Boys, etc.).

Wish has Chris Pine as King Magnifico sing "This Is The Thanks I Get?". Which (personally) doesn't make Magnifico feel intimidating. I get the narrative is Magnifico doesn't believe he's the bad guy (until he gets corrupted by the evil book, which is also the best part of the song). But the song feels like a grown man nagging.

Journey to Bethlehem has Antonio Banderas as King Herod sing "Good to Be King", a rock-opera type song about taking advantage of his people and being a murderous menace. He's played straight as a villain who knows he's bad.

Both Pine and Banderas have poppy, slightly campy songs, but in my eyes one is clearly more interesting and memorable than the other.

[Also, a Disney royal villain singing "off with his head!" is such a missed opportunity.]
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Now that's a GOOD villain song! Something like that, coupled with a different characterization for Magnifico, would have vastly elevated the movie.
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Here is yet another video on the consideration of Wish :)

https://youtu.be/3o-oU0xv74g?si=oOkubuu3a2_ePh4t
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"Good to Be King" is, well, good Haha. Better than "This is the Thanks I Get", which is the important thing.
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It is a shame this only broke even, but at least it wasn't an outright flop and I have a feeling it could be the beginning of an uphill swing from Strange World's flopping just like TLM and TP&TF--we'll see. I thought it was good. Not as good as I had hoped, but it was better than Elemental and (I can only presume) Trolls 3. The silver lining is it was unlikely this would've been as good as The Boy and the Heron or Spider-verse's sequel even if it had been on level with what I'd expected, and I'm glad those two films are getting most of the awards attention. And at least the consensus of most reviews were that the animation style was the highlight. It will be interesting to see how it does on streaming; if it does well there, hopefully that will help WDAS lift its chances for the next original film this Fall.

I'll try to edit this post as I scroll through old posts. I'm glad you thought the film was okay, Duster! :) I can't wait to get the Walmart steelbook, it's very pretty. The one plus side of BestBuy killing off all their physical media is now steelbooks can be sold at Walmart instead, I guess? :lol: Which makes them easier to get for me. It's too bad TLM's Walmart exclusive cover couldn't have been a steelbook as well rather than the sort of papery substance it was, that cover was very pretty.

As far as the detail that Magnifico originally consumed people's wishes or whatever, well... I've said in the past on this forum that I could see elements in WDAS' recent films that looked inspired by their brief involvement with Square Enix on Kingdom Hearts 3 back in the 2017-19 area. Wish was no exception. The wishes themselves always looked so similar to the pure hearts of the Princesses of Heart in the first Kingdom Hearts for one, a visual I was always obsessed with as a child. The idea that Magnifico would consume the light inside them reminds me of how Maleficent in Chain of Memories wanted to consume Belle's heart to give herself power.
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Mooky wrote: Wed Nov 29, 2023 6:53 am FFS, just let people like OR dislike the movie as they please, and stop hounding them across the internet. You'd think a few of you here have personal stakes in Disney the way you not only pile up on anyone who expresses any type of legitimate criticism of them and their products, but also jump to defend every questionable storytelling choice. It's annoying and it's getting old. And this is coming from someone who enjoyed Wish for the most part.
I agree 100%!
I found reading this whole interaction pretty ironic considering the two of you are much more oppressive than Patricier, imo, and Patricier for all their faults comes across much more genuine whereas you two seem like culture warriors just as much as carolinakid. You two are normally the first to demonize and attack anyone who posts anything that isn't short, placid, and positive about every Disney/PIXAR product. You want there to be nuance and understanding now you're the one criticizing something, that's hilarious.
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Welcome back, Divinity. You are a ray of sunshine as ever.
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Well, I thought Patricier did deserve defending. Some people are cowardly, but I'm not. :wave:
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And here I thought all this time you were away you were working on your personality, but I guess I thought wrong. You really can't teach an old dog new tricks, huh. :wave:
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