ajmrowland wrote:1. not that kind of test.
2. life's not a classroom designed to over generalize it's students.
3. who said it was fair?
4. ridiculous? i barely believe it but it's not much more ridiculous than the theory of life on other planets in that it involves thinking outside the box
1. I was obviously using that scenario as an example to prove the point that EVERY SINGLE TEST HAS TO BE THE SAME TO BE FAIR. That is a basic scientific principle. It doesn't just apply to tests in classroms-it applies to tests with chemicals and everything else. It doesn't matter if it's a classroom exam or God's fictional test to see which people go to Heaven and which go to Hell, it has to be the same. And besides...how do YOU know what kind of 'test' 'God' does?
2. I know life's not a classroom, but as I said above, I was merely using it as a metaphor to show that EVERY SINGLE TEST HAS TO BE THE SAME TO BE FAIR.
3. IF A TEST ISN'T FAIR THE RESULTS DON'T MATTER. IF A TEST ISN'T FAIR THE RESULTS DON'T MATTER. IF A TEST ISN'T FAIR THE RESULTS DON'T MATTER. THAT IS A BASIC SCIENTIFIC PRINCIPLE. If the 'test' of 'God' isn't fair, then it doesn't matter what results 'he' gets.
4. Let me be perfectly clear: it's not that I don't think God doesn't exist. There may be a 'God' of some sort, or a 'Creator'. What I'm trying to show is that there can't be the Christian God, and if there is, then he's an unfair, stupid, malevolent jerk who isn't omnipotent in the slightest.
And besides, there are kinds of evidence for extraterrestrial lifeforms. For example, there have to be distant planets similar to Earth and thus life most likely can or already has appeared on such planets. Where is the proof that there's a God? Is the proof that a lot of people believe there is?
The Ancient Egyptians, Ancient Greeks and Romans all have huge influences over the world today and were some of the most progressive civilisations of all time. However, their beliefs in multiple Gods and now considerably silly theories (i.e. someone bringing the sun via chariot) have been proven to be WRONG.
But as you'll undoubtedly find contrived loopholes in my arguments and try to say something completely idiotic like 'God' not needing his tests to be fair, I'll provide some more evidence for why the Christian God at the very least is not real.
The only impressive ‘miracle’ by Jesus was the resurrection of Lazarus. His other ‘miracles’ were merely parlour tricks, especially compared to what his father did. His father (according to the Bible) flooded the Earth, destroyed cities, broke down civilisations, inspired thousands and created the entire universe and every single atom within it. What did his son do? Turned water into wine; that is such a huge, colossal fall from fictional greatness that it’s almost laughable. If Jesus was the son of God, then he should have been moving mountains, rearranging the stars, or at the very least parted a sea like Moses apparently did in the Old Testament. If you’re going to follow Jesus, you might as well follow every single illusionist and magician you come cross and hail them as the son of God.
But then there are stories of the Bible of Jesus making a man walk again, healing a leper and making a blind man see. These stories don’t inspire or enlighten me; they nearly disgust me. If those stories are true, then Jesus is the most unfair prophet of all time. If he was so concerned about the sick and the dying and the disabled, why didn’t he just get rid of all disease? Doesn’t the way that Jesus only helped the people he came across instead of everyone? If Jesus was only doing it to gather followers, then that means he was a very manipulative, selfish and self-obsessed man who did not deserve one follower.
Discussion often doesn't stay on one topic, it thrives through the people involved and develops, with different people contributing all the time and arguing about different subjects and talking about their viewpoints on such subjects.
