Episode 3: Revenge of the Gays, Are You One Too?

[Disney Duster]

I am aghast that after what I said you still think that, but I will leave it alone for the forum, and because it's off-topic.

Sometimes grown people can't breath on their own...

There's also the idea that there's a soul, that makes you you, seperate from your body at whatever stage it's at, which complicates things. You could even wonder, well, when does the soul come in? When all the DNA is there, at fertilization? And that is all I'm saying.

[TheSequelOfDisney]

Sometimes grown people can't breath on their own...

Yeah, but they don't have to be in their mother's womb to breathe.


But, yes, let's get back on topic.

[Goliath]

Yes, yes, true, true. But, it is human, and it is life. It is human, it will not turn into anything else, and it is alive. You can't abort it if it isn't alive, right? ?

Yes, you can. In the first few months, it's a lump of cells; in later months, it's a fetus that can't survive outisde of the utures. I'd think you'd at least know your basic facts before you made judgements about people you have no idea of how they live their lifes.

However, I think in some situations, it is a necessary bad thing to have an abortion. Like if the mother is too young and having the baby could pretty much wreck her and the baby itself, physically, or if the mother and baby would have a torturous life where they wished they were dead.

There's just some situations where I think even God wouldn't really want a baby to be born.

If you know all that, then why are you being so hateful about it and comparing those women to cold-blooded killers?

There's also the idea that there's a soul, that makes you you, seperate from your body at whatever stage it's at, which complicates things.

Yeah, but not everybody shares your delusions, so we don't have to let out actions depend on them.

[Flanger-Hanger]

I'd prefer not have this thread shut down because of abortion talk too.

[Disney Duster]

Goliath, yea, and it's still alive, so no you can't. It's alive. It's human. It's human life. Aborting it is killing it, because you ended it's life.

And I wasn't doing any of what you said I was doing/feeling.

[Goliath]

Goliath, yea, and it's still alive, so no you can't. It's alive. It's human. It's human life. Aborting it is killing it, because you ended it's life.

No, no, no. it isn't. It simply isn't. The moment you shoot your sperm into a woman's uterus, that's not "human life". The moment your sperm reaches the woman's egg and fertilizes it, it's not "human life". It won't be anything remotely like "human life" for many months. It will be a lump of cells. It won't be *anything* until much later.

So, not, it's not human life. And therefore, it's not killing. To call it killing is delusional. I don't care what religion or cult you're into, but under no circumstance is it killing. Ask any doctor. Ask any lawyer, for that matter. They will explain you the difference between an abortion and a killing.

So, again, no, it's not human life and it's not killing. It's not. Not ever. Never.

And I wasn't doing any of what you said I was doing/feeling.

Yes, you were, you were bashing them and kicking them when they're already down, you judgemental .... (*swallows his words*)

[CJ]

For Shame, the two forbidden topics (religion and abortion) are living on in this thread? Perhaps I wasn't clear when I locked the threads belonging to those topics? The forum is not in a place right now where the subjects of abortion and religion can be discussed in civil manner. Perhaps one day we will be able to discuss them, but today is not that day.

Since this thread has gone off topic and has circumvented forum moderation, I am locking it. However, I do not wish to punish those who wanted to keep this thread on topic, so I will allow a new volume of this thread to be created. Though be aware I will not be so lenient the next time anyone circumvents forum moderation, consider yourselves warned.