Beauty and the Beast: Diamond Edition (October 5th!)

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Um, a little bad news to report... there's one shot in the "Original Theatrical Version" on this new Diamond Edition that's actually a revised shot from the "Special Edition".

It's the shot at the very end of the "Something There" sequence where Mrs. Potts says to Chip, "I'll tell you when you're older." In the original version, Belle and Beast were behind the enchanted objects, but the Special Edition changed the camera angle, with the hallway in the background, as shown below:

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Ironically the "Original Theatrical Version" on the Platinum Edition DVD retained the original shot...
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In short, my assessment is; "Disney are so fucked up."

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wtg disney.....wtg .looks like i have to enjoy this film solely on its captivating storyline and characters..i might as well be blind.at least my imagination might stay the same. im thankful pocahontas is a lesser loved film.had it been a super hit..she might have altered skimpier buckskin dress as the years go by to suit the current taste of decency.
do you still wait for me Dream Giver?
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my movie theater around here preserves original movie posters and in one for beauty and the beast Bell is wearing a purple freaking dress so stfu about shades of blue and brown...
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Post by Mr. Yagoobian »

And here I stop whining about the colors.
My final word on the colours...
Oh, good. Because I still haven't heard why I should believe that the older, poorer-resolution, more color-limited medium's release is the most authentic to the original theatrical presentation, except that Disney artists must prefer a drab, flat, washed-out color palette.

But what if the VHS box art doesn't match the Little Golden Book?
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DisneyChris wrote:Um, a little bad news to report... there's one shot in the "Original Theatrical Version" on this new Diamond Edition that's actually a revised shot from the "Special Edition".

It's the shot at the very end of the "Something There" sequence where Mrs. Potts says to Chip, "I'll tell you when you're older." In the original version, Belle and Beast were behind the enchanted objects, but the Special Edition changed the camera angle, with the hallway in the background, as shown below:

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Ironically the "Original Theatrical Version" on the Platinum Edition DVD retained the original shot...
OMG!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!
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People are so ungrateful and always looking for something to complain about. The movie continues on being Beauty and the Beast, even if it's not as dark as before or for whatever reason you people won't shut up about. I honestly find the new touch up very nice, and I am 100% excited for this release.
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Okay, everyone, I only have one thing to say about those bitching about how the Blu-ray looks nothing like what the original was "supposed to look like".





SHUT UP!!!!!

I mean, seriously! I think the colors on the BD look as close to the original colors as we might get. In fact, they look better than the Platinum Edition's. So if you're all done complaining about the colors, then good. If not, then just sit down and shut up!
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I'm really not on any side in this discussion, but who are you to tell other users about what they may discuss? It isn't even off topic and if you are pissed off than you should simply STOP READING the posts!!!
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OK, so after watching the "Belle" sequence, I can safely say it's indeed, far better than the Platinum and closer to the 1992 release. Of-course, judging by that scene alone. I like it. :)
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Maybe we should just do our own coloring again.

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Well, what are you waiting for? Get started! ;)
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Scamander wrote:I'm really not on any side in this discussion, but who are you to tell other users about what they may discuss? It isn't even off topic and if you are pissed off than you should simply STOP READING the posts!!!
All everyone is doing is whining about how neither the Platinum or Diamond Editions look anything like the "theatrical colors" and frankly, I'm fed up with everyone complaining about it.
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DisneyJedi wrote: All everyone is doing is whining about how neither the Platinum or Diamond Editions look anything like the "theatrical colors" and frankly, I'm fed up with everyone complaining about it.
People are doing it out of love for the film. Otherwise, they couldn't have cared less about the colors.
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enigmawing wrote:Well, what are you waiting for? Get started! ;)
How are they standing on the castle balcony when the castle is behind them? This can't be original, what kind of trick is this?!
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enigmawing wrote:Maybe we should just do our own coloring again
I'll start and repost Kyles coloured pic. He did it so lovely and with so much passion, I just love it... Especially that Belle is red-haired. :D

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PS. Funny that this pic was posted the first time exactly one year ago.^^
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filmmusic wrote:Well, here's a video i just made with comparison of the beauty and the beast song scene from the BLuray (left) and Laserdisc (right).
the quality isn't good because i wanted to keep the file size small, but the point about the colors is made.

http://rapidshare.com/files/421001065/B ... arison.AVI
That settles it, can someone please PM me directions to the LaserDisc rip? It would be very much appreciated.

Also, I can't believe how rude some people are being on here. Telling people to shut up because you disagree with them or quoting them with blah blah blah isn't contributing to the discussion (I think thoughtful posts is somewhere in the posting guidelines). I get it, you don't like hearing facts and quite frankly, I get tired of repeating these facts only to have them ignored as inaccurate information pertaining to the accuracy of the colors is repeatedly spewed afterwords. You can argue all you want as to whether you personally like the color alterations or whether you feel it affects the film positively/negatively or even if you think it was the director's intent but there really isn't any argument as to whether these are the original colors.

I still haven't heard any smart explanation for the following supporting the format theory:
jpanimation wrote:None of this format argument explains why the original press images and trailers for the Human Again sequence would reflect the VHS colors if they weren't the original ones. It also doesn't explain why the Inter-Stitch-Al, which had to dive back into the CAPS files for new animated section (as the Special Edition did for the Human Again sequence), would remain rather close to the original colors. Both new animated bits [Inter-Stitch-Al and Human Again) featured colors very close to the VHS.
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funloops wrote:How are they standing on the castle balcony when the castle is behind them? This can't be original, what kind of trick is this?!
Blame the people that put together Disney clip-art. :lol:
Scamander wrote:PS. Funny that this pic was posted the first time exactly one year ago.^^
Holy crap, you're right! :D And here's another version:

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jpanimation wrote:Also, I can't believe how rude some people are being on here.
Same here. :( I'm hoping we can lighten things up a bit.

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I made a black velvet poster! :D
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