Pinocchio Blu-ray/DVD Preview

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[gregmasciola]

Meh, I pay no attention to anything coming out of that site considering they are no more than shills for the BDA. Every high profile release gets high marks from them...

I've read several reviews on that site, and there are actually quite a few that say the picture quality of certain movies is not very good, so they don't just give every movie an A+.

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[ajmrowland]

I've read several reviews on that site, and there are actually quite a few that say the picture quality of certain movies is not very good, so they don't just give every movie an A+.

I said every high profile review, not "every" review -- the minor stuff they let slide, I'm sure. The big, highly anticipated releases that are expected to sell well, that's another story. And as for the concert discs, let's just say Disney would be proud.

All I know is, when you're told "this one could really sell well and break a lot of records so make it good" when you're about to write a review, something smells like rotten fish -- again, I speak from personal (and documented) experience, or I wouldn't be saying this in public, I'm not stupid.

I've seen critique that separated the A/V from the film itself quality -wise for every blockbuster.

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[Flanger-Hanger]

They may have a prominent Disney member but he or she is not afraid to bash HSM, the Buddie flick or the Chiuawa film in any of the 5 categories. Not to mention the not so favorable reviews for Dinosaur and others.

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[2099net]

They may have a prominent Disney member but he or she is not afraid to bash HSM, the Buddie flick or the Chiuawa film in any of the 5 categories. Not to mention the not so favorable reviews for Dinosaur and others.

All films that were ravaged universally by critics, and, again, check out the ratings for PQ and AQ -- I once again stand by my assertions -- shills.
Nobody would come out and praise Chihuahua.

Although, almost every audio/video magazine or website agrees Disney do release some of the best looking and sounding Blu-rays. All have high-bitrate transfers, and lossless sound (be it PCM or DTS-MA HD). Its not just BR.Com that consistantly marks Disney blu-rays top of the heap, but almost every other reviewer, worldwide. Gangs of New York is the only Disney title I can ever remember being marked as below standard.

Could it be, Disney actually invest time and money in their Blu-rays? How shocking.

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[ajmrowland]

I've seen critique that separated the A/V from the film itself quality -wise for every blockbuster.

And your point would be? How many people on a so-called A/V forum are reading reviews for the film critique? Particularly for an already well-known release. My original assertion stands , especially when you look at the facts as they stand:

A) They have a prominent Disney (HUGE member of the BDA) employee writing reviews under an alias
B) Their "Editor" lost his previous position at Home Theater Forum for lying about an altercation between Ken Grafeo and Bill Hunt and they chose to employ a person of such dubious character to run their "review" section.

I could could go on with even more details, but that's all I choose to reveal for now.

None of this inspires trust.

I was talking about the AVForum. I was talking about reviews on the web. That do critique the film quite differently from the A/V rating they give it. aka, non-biased comparison.

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[ajmrowland]

Although, almost every audio/video magazine or website agrees Disney do release some of the best looking and sounding Blu-rays. All have high-bitrate transfers, and lossless sound (be it PCM or DTS-MA HD). Its not just BR.Com that consistantly marks Disney blu-rays top of the heap, but almost every other reviewer, worldwide.

Could it be, Disney actually invest time and money in their Blu-rays? How shocking.

Umm, where did I say that they only rate DISNEY BD's highly? And, there's no way that Beverly Hills Chihuaha rates as highly as they rated it for A/Q and PQ , let's see:

High-Def Digest:

4/5 AQ
3/5 PQ

DVD Talk:
4/5 PQ
3.5/5 AQ

Upcoming Discs:
4.5/5 PQ
3.5/5 AQ

BLU-RAY.COM?

5/5 and 4/5 respectively. 5/5 for PQ? Puhleezuh.

Besides, these other sites aren't the ones claiming to have no affiliation with the BDA and then having employees of Disney writing up reviews and making NO DISCLOSURE WHATSOEVER to readers or forum members. Umm, I'll get my reviews from people who aren't deceitful, thank you very much.

That is a total lack of journalistic integrity.

That's why I turn to this site, and Highdefdigest: to get a little more opinion. Truth is, different reviewers have different equipment, and furthermore, different opinions on the content. The reviewer of Space Buddies wasn't very fond of that film, even though he/she must have been employed by Disney because they work on that site.

[slowcloud]

So, I finally got around to getting this before it supposedly gets "vaulted." I ordered it online from a Half.com seller... I know, a notorious source of bootlegs, but there are honest sellers there too who know what they are selling (I'm one!). But when I got this BR in supposed brand new, sealed condition, it confounded me, so I decided to come to the experts here.

First off, it had no slipcover, which some of these BRs inevitably might not come with, but also it came in a regular BR case, and all that I have seen at the stores are in a thicker case, unless I missed some in the regular thinner case. But, the thing is, the cover art on the case looks like it should have been in a thicker case as the spine art is wider than the spine of the case (it folds over part of the edge of the back cover of the case). The top security seal with the title on it is there and it is shrink-wrapped. But part of the title sticker (the clear part, at edge) is torn away and not under wrap at all.

It all made me suspicious, so I asked for a refund, but the seller got combative, accusing me of trying to scam her, which made me more suspicious, to be honest, so now I want to be sure. Is this a bootleg or a former used item changed into a single BR case and resealed with probably one of the discs taken out? Did all of the BR's of Pinocchio come in a double, thicker BR case?

Thanks!

[SpringHeelJack]

...did you open it? Are all the discs in it? You seem unsure that it has all the discs, but you didn't say if it did or didn't.

[slowcloud]

...did you open it? Are all the discs in it? You seem unsure that it has all the discs, but you didn't say if it did or didn't.

Nope I did not open it. Yes, I am unsure whether it has all the discs. As I said earlier, all of the BRs of this movie that I have seen are in thick, seemingly 2-disc cases. Is this accurate? Are there no single or slimmmer, more familiar BR cases of this movie? I do not want to open it as to compromise the eveidence.

[SpringHeelJack]

I mean... you kind of should open it, just to be sure the discs are there and that they are legitimate and not bootlegs. I'm not sure how much of a case for a refund you have if you say "Everything was included, but the Blu-rays were in a slimmer case."

[slowcloud]

I'm not sure how much of a case for a refund you have if you say "Everything was included, but the Blu-rays were in a slimmer case."

I did not jsut say "it came in a slimmer case" Please read my first full post above.

I'll make it simple: anybody here know if this only comes in a thick 2-disc Blu-ray case?

[DisneyFreak5282]

I'm not sure how much of a case for a refund you have if you say "Everything was included, but the Blu-rays were in a slimmer case."

I did not jsut say "it came in a slimmer case" Please read my first full post above.

I'll make it simple: anybody here know if this only comes in a thick 2-disc Blu-ray case?

First of all, I'm pretty sure Pinocchio isn't getting vaulted this January, since it was just released in March.

Secondly, I doubt this set only came in the thick 2-disc case. After some time, it was probably pressed with a slimmer case, seeing as it's been out for 10 months now. The studio is notorious for repackaging some of their DVDs (mainly their TV-on-DVD sets) to eventually be packaged in slimmer cases. Since you didn't open it, I would just to make sure all the discs are in there, and if they are, I wouldn't worry too much about it.

[SpringHeelJack]

I DID read your first post. It had no slipcover, which is no reason for concern, part of the title sticker is torn away, and the case is slimmer. Don't get uppity. I stand by original suggestion that you, you know, open the case, and see that everything is included and legitimate, as opposed to saying "The exterior looks off." If something is missing or bootlegged, it won't matter if you opened it or not, you are still entitled to a refund. I'm not going to be presumptuous enough to tell you that Pinocchio ONLY came in a thick Blu-ray case. I've honestly never paid that much attention to any store copies- I just don't care enough to do so.