"Alice in Wonderland" goes Platinum

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The arrow there doesn't imply that that means "Aladdin", it's pointing out where "Aladdin" should be.

I certainly hope Aladdin isn't getting screwed out. It's much more deserving than Alice in Wonderland.
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I guess Disneykid and I are the only ones who'd prefer and Alice platinum to an Aladdin one. Just mix the laserdisc features with the masterpiece edition, add a making of featurette and an audio commentary and it would be perfect!
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I would certainly not be opposed to using the remaining LD bonus features to give "Alice" a superior two-disc DVD release. It's a shame the only way we can get a two-disc anything is to have it be bumped up to Platinum status.

However, I still find "Aladdin" to be a superior film. It boggles my mind as to why Disney would opt to release a movie that received mediocre reviews and did okay business as opposed to a huge success on Platinum DVD.
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Julian Carter wrote:
Simba3 wrote:The German Disney DVD website has a time line featuring all the Platinum Edition titles, and it appears that "Aladdin" is missing from the time line.
Great find Simba3! :) Not only that, but note that if you choose to view the list of the Platinum titles, Aladdin is omitted once again. But most importantly, the list includes Alice in Wonderland!
Thanks, great find for you too! I didn't even think to check the list of movies. Something fishy is going on here for sure, I'm just not sure what it all means yet.
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Okay,but why Aladdin got kicked out? :? what? Jasmine wasn't popular enough? :?.
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Ariel'sprince wrote:Okay,but why Aladdin got kicked out? :? what? Jasmine wasn't popular enough? :?.
Well ... most people seem to think it's because its DVD sales were rather poor in comparison to the other Platinums. Logic to the businessman's wallet, I suppose.
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It seems really odd to me that Disney would tak out such a large selling movie as Aladdin, and put Alice in Wonderland instead. I think Alice though really does deserve a platinum treatement. As much as Walt may have disliked it when it was released, it still has great animation and wild characters. :)
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Julian Carter wrote:
Ariel'sprince wrote:Okay,but why Aladdin got kicked out? :? what? Jasmine wasn't popular enough? :?.
Well ... most people seem to think it's because its DVD sales were rather poor in comparison to the other Platinums. Logic to the businessman's wallet, I suppose.
I wonder why it didn't had such good sales,you have any idea why? :?.
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I heard that it was because of the fact that it was set in Arabia/Middle East, so maybe that's why?
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nachonaco wrote:I heard that it was because of the fact that it was set in Arabia/Middle East, so maybe that's why?
Well, that's why people assumed it sold so badly. But I disagree with that theory.
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nachonaco wrote:I heard that it was because of the fact that it was set in Arabia/Middle East, so maybe that's why?
if that's the reason it's just dumb.
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I don't see that as being a realistic reason.

Personally I don't think Disney marketed Aladdin anywhere near as much as they did TLK the previous year (I know they didn't over here in the UK, can't speak fo the US). Apart from a few posters in bus shelters there was nothing really, I think I saw the TV advert once.

I still honestly think Alice is being added to the Spring slot before TLK's fall release and we'll see something else added to the line rather than Aladdin removed.

At least if it is removed it already had more bonus features that pretty much any other Platinum Edition and those should get ported to the Blu-Ray so unless they add loads to the Platinum Blu-Rays Aladdin will still be equal to (and probably surpass a few) in terms of content.
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ChrisLyne wrote:Personally I don't think Disney marketed Aladdin anywhere near as much as they did TLK the previous year (I know they didn't over here in the UK, can't speak fo the US). Apart from a few posters in bus shelters there was nothing really, I think I saw the TV advert once.
Well,there was some Aladdin and Jasmine products for the PE but not like the Lion King merchandise for the Lion King PE.
And Jasmine didn't got products like the Ariel and Cinderella merchandise when their PEs came or the merchandise Aurora will get next year for her Platinum Edition since the Princess line wasn't that way back then,and besides-She's a hero too but it's Aladdin's film really,he's the star,so making her merchandise is kinda problem but maybe they could make her merchandise with Aladdin (for example-In some merchandise she's alone and other she's with Aladdin).
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Darn, am I confused. With the some people's theory the Platinum line would continue like this:

Fall 2008: Sleeping Beauty
Spring 2009: Pinocchio
Fall 2009: Fantasia
Fall 2010: Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Fall 2011: Beauty and the Beast
Fall 2012: The Lion King
Spring 2013: Alice in Wonderland
Fall 2013: Aladdin
Spring 2014: Bambi
Fall 2014: Cinderella
Spring 2015: Lady and the Tramp
Fall 2015: The Little Mermaid
Spring 2016: Peter Pan
Fall 2016: The Jungle Book
Spring 2017: 101 Dalmatians
Fall 2018: Sleeping Beauty
Spring 2019: Pinocchio
Fall 2019: Fantasia
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Actually,so far I think it's:
Fall 2008-Sleeping Beauty.
Spring 2009-Pinocchio.
Fall 2009-Fantasia.
Spring 2010-Alice In Wonderland.
Fall 2010-Some other movie.
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In my opinion, it will look like this:

October 7, 2008: Sleeping Beauty
Spring 2009: Pinocchio
Fall 2009: Alice in Wonderland
Spring 2010: Fantasia
Fall 2010: Snow White
Spring 2011: ???
Fall 2011: Beauty and the Beast

In the meantime, I hope they will be using their budget to create new and fresh titles that could eventually lead to a new era of Platinum Quality Disney Material.
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kbehm29 wrote: Fall 2009: Alice in Wonderland
Spring 2010: Fantasia
Flip these, and it will be perfect. Fantasia was afterall actually in the top 14, with Alice recently being added, it would make more sense like this (at least to me).
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PLS PLS PLS ADD POCAHONTAS TO THE LINEUP.
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akhenaten wrote:PLS PLS PLS ADD POCAHONTAS TO THE LINEUP.
I have to admit, Pocahontas wouldn't be a bad addition. Then maybe it would magically become the Fab 5 instead of Fab 4.
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Released So Far/Confirmed Release Date
Fall 2001 – Snow White
Fall 2002 – Beauty and the Beast
Fall 2003 – The Lion King
Fall 2004 – Aladdin
Spring 2005 – Bambi
Fall 2005 – Cinderella
Spring 2006 – Lady and the Tramp
Fall 2006 – The Little Mermaid
Spring 2007 – Peter Pan
Fall 2007 – The Jungle Book
Spring 2008 – 101 Dalmatians
Fall 2008 – Sleeping Beauty (start of Platinums on Blu-Ray)

Projections from Calendar at Start of this Thread
Spring 2009 – Pinocchio
Fall 2009 – Snow White
Spring 2010 – Fantasia
Fall 2010 – Beauty and the Beast
Spring 2011 – Alice in Wonderland
Fall 2011 – The Lion King

I agree that it would make more sense to release all 14 (or 15 or whatever!) before going back to the beginning. But all evidence so far suggests that Pinocchio and Fantasia will be added to the Spring slots for Snow White and Beauty and the Beast so the cycle will start again before all the titles are actually released in the Platinum Collection.

Therefore until we know what’s happening in 2012 we can’t say for certain what’s happening with Aladdin. IF it has been dropped then 2012 will see Bambi and Cinderella released on Blu-Ray (maybe re-released on DVD) and the cycle repeat from there. However it is just as possible that another title (Dumbo, Pocahontas, Hunchback, Hercules, Tarzan. Lilo and Stitch, etc.) could be added to the line up for the Spring 2012 slot, Aladdin will be released in the Fall 2012 slot and the cycle will continue from there.

I’m honestly hoping that Aladdin remains a Platinum, it certainly deserves to be in the collection. However, if it is removed, at least Aladdin as arguably the best set of bonus features in the Platinum Collection so there’s no reason they won’t be ported over to Blu-Ray release and/or a DVD re-release.
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