Walt Disney Treasures: Wave 7 DVDs Press Release

[Barbossa]

Barbossa, it's 125 points each.

Thanks. I guess I have enough points to get a couple of DVDs now.

[Eeyore]

Just opened my three tins. Not even a speck of glue on the Oswald rear case, so it's completely loose. Other two are barely holding on.

Love the E-ticket book, memories of my childhood flooding back there.

Donald and Disney are completely sold out everywhere I look, with dozens of Oswald still on the shelves. Yeah, there were more copies printed, but not 10 times as much.

Some marketdroid idiot completely screwed up when he thought the Oswald demand would outpace the others.

[dvdjunkie]

Glue on what?? You mean the piece of paper that tells you what's on the disc?

It's the same as the back of the Amaray case. I just take them off and clean off the tin, and put the card inside the case, and then toss the tin and the card out, because it is what's on the Discs that really counts.

[Gregbert]

It's the same as the back of the Amaray case. I just take them off and clean off the tin, and put the card inside the case, and then toss the tin and the card out, because it is what's on the Discs that really counts.

Me too. I miss the days when they would ink or screen print the info on the back.

[Barbossa]

I just take them off and clean off the tin, and put the card inside the case, and then toss the tin and the card out, because it is what's on the Discs that really counts.

Thanks dvdjunkie! My completely intact sets are worth more now!

[Big Disney Fan]

Well, I've finally got my copy of Donald 3 and I've noticed that the old theme music in "Straight Shooters" (but not "Sleepy Time Donald") has been replaced by the newer theme music introduced in "Donald's Dilemma". Even "Crazy With the Heat", the last Donald cartoon to co-star Goofy has the old theme music replaced by that newer theme music. The original theme music in that one was the original Goofy theme music.

[dvdjunkie]

Barbossa wrote:

Thanks dvdjunkie! My completely intact sets are worth more now!

Unfortunately you are so wrong. Since I am director of a collector's show that travels to over 10 states in the US, I can tell you that the tins don't make the set worth anymore. In fact, they are the same price with or without the tins. Most collector's view the tins as 'space hogs' in the collection.

Go to a few collector's shows and you will see. Don't pay attention to eBay or Yahoo Auctions, those are for the lazy people who don't get out and shop. If you look for a collector's show in your area, you can really add to your collection for not very much money, and all of the DVD's there are certified as originals and guaranteed.

All of my dealers are checked out to make sure that they don't seel "seconds" (or bootlegs), and if they aren't willing to put some type of guarantee with what they are selling, I don't let them sell.

Most collectible thing in our shows right now, are Disney toys that were issued and marketed with the movies. The Captain Jack Sparrow doll is probably the highest valued piece, followed by the Barbossa doll.

[DaveWadding]

so I finished the DL doc....pretty much what I had been waiting for for 2 years.

I also got into the time lapse photography feeds from disc 2....REALLY amazing stuff. Hard to believe they got Disneyland up in like a year.

[mybluerabbit]

Barbossa wrote:

Unfortunately you are so wrong. Since I am director of a collector's show that travels to over 10 states in the US, I can tell you that the tins don't make the set worth anymore.

Oh well, they are worth more to me with the tins:)
I really like the tins (although I wish they would print on the back like they used to).

Anyway, in regards to why there are so many Oswald sets produced, here are my 2 cents. Back when Disney was interviewed about the success of the Legacy Line, the President said that their sales have been fine, as they are expected to sell well over time, being an evergreen item.

Since Oswald was originally intended to be part of the Legacy line, my guess is that Disney wants it to be around for a bit - to sell more over time. Besides as someone else has mentioned, Disney has to make back what they spent on acquiring the Oswald shorts, and the longer it is around, the more that will sell in the end.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

The tins are about "perceived value", of course. If enough people think the Treasures are worth more with tins than without, they are.

[TM2-Megatron]

What dvdjunkie says about these collectors surprises me, personally. While I don't know any dvd collectors personally, I do know assorted people who collect a variety of different things... and the common thread uniting them all is that they're quite the completists.

Speaking for myself (and I wouldn't consider myself a collector of DVDs, though I do have a fair number), I doubt I'd consider buying a Treasure used without the tin... particularly for those Treasures that were released before the numbered certificate of authenticity, when the individualized numbers were imprinted on the tins themselves (making them, in my eyes, that much more important and not to be just tossed aside).

When I did start collecting the Treasures (after Wave 3 had been released), I had to pick up Silly Symphonies and Micky in Living Colour 1 off eBay, and I tended to ignore those auctions which featured them without tins. Fortunately, I managed to get both in not too long a time, in sealed condition.

I guess DVD collectors just aren't as hardcore as collectors of other paraphanalia.

[Tannerman]

The tins are about "perceived value", of course. If enough people think the Treasures are worth more with tins than without, they are.

Agreed. I worked in marketing for a collectibles firm for quite a while and we were all about scamming, er, encouraging collector's value with customers

[Class316]

I know I’m a bit late in the game, but I am truly astonished at the number of Oswald produced vs something as iconic as Donald Duck

[Tannerman]

Regarding "Operation Disneyland" from the Disneyland Secrets disc, if you had to assign a release date to this little segment, what would you give it? Obviously, it was never publicly released, but wondered if anyone had a date on when it was created for the ABC affiliates. I'm assuming shortly after the original broadcast of "Dateline Disneyland".

[slave2moonlight]

Perhaps this is old news, but did anyone notice that they edited part of Donald's opening theme song for "Clown of the Jungle" in Chronological Donald Volume 3?!!! I was just watching that set for the first time, and I started with the From the Vault section, and I couldn't believe it! How ridiculous! They cut out the part that says, "Who's never wrong, but always right!" They cut it out because he opens fire on the Aracuan bird with a machine gun I guess, but come on!

[Billy Moon]

They cut it out because he opens fire on the Aracuan bird with a machine gun I guess, but come on!

The song is meant to be sarcastic, so that can't be the reason.

[slave2moonlight]

They cut it out because he opens fire on the Aracuan bird with a machine gun I guess, but come on!

The song is meant to be sarcastic, so that can't be the reason.

Considering that's the only short where they made this cut, and we are forced to watch Leonard Maltin explain that Donald's behavior is bad and we are not supposed to try and copy it, I'm 99.9 % sure that's the reason. The PC police don't "get" sarcasm.

[MK Sharp]

Considering that's the only short where they made this cut,

Aside, of course, from Crazy With The Heat.

Laying anti-PC fantasies aside for a minute, what actually seems to be the case is that on both shorts the original titles music has been replaced at some point with newer theme. However, the originals only ran 20 seconds and the "No-One But Donald Duck" song runs 30 seconds, so it had to be trimmed to fit. You'll notice that the introduction is also cut off, and the song starts right where the lyrics come in.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, Crazy With The Heat seems to have originally opened with the Goofy theme; whilst the older copy of Clown Of The Jungle I have on VHS has another piece of music, the identity of which escapes me at the moment.

[slave2moonlight]

Considering that's the only short where they made this cut,

Aside, of course, from Crazy With The Heat.

Ah, well, I meant among the Vault shorts, which are the only ones I had watched so far.

Yeah, I can see that as the case with Crazy With the Heat. The opening pic of Donald and Goofy was the same but it used to either have Goofy music or an entirely different tune. Sucks that they changed it because it makes no sense to have the Donald Duck tune playing over a pic of Donald AND Goofy. The other one though, what music would it have had originally? It's a Donald short, after all.

[marlan]

I was slightly disappointed about the video quality of The Chronological Donald 3. It appears that the moving image is not encoded frame-by-frame but field-by-field, and it causes visible interlacing artifacts with progressive scan, like this one:



The image is in native resolution, with subtitle sample.

I compared this disk to some other NTSC releases that I own (theatrical movies) and they don't show this problem. For instance, The Complete Pluto 2 (NTSC version) doesn't suffer from interlacing artifacts either. The review does not comment upon this issue — so, am I the only one who is seeing this, or is it just me?