Official 'Enchanted' Discussion Thread + Trailer !

[mariadny]

ENCHANTED is the new number 1 in the spanish box office.

CONGRATULATION¡¡¡

A really beautiful and classic Disney film

[akhenaten]

mariadny..how's the songs in spanish? any good?

[mariadny]

mariadny..how's the songs in spanish? any good?

The songs are great but I think Amy Adams is better than spanish singer.
Very very nice film.
I think this movie is a small step to another golden age

[bruno_wbt]

mariadny..how's the songs in spanish? any good?

The only songs in Spanish are the ones who sings Giselle, and they are sung by Gisela, a contestant from the "American Idol" from Spain.

So Close and Ever Ever After remain in English.

I can upload 2 of the songs in Spanish:

Sueño un beso (True Love's Kiss)
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php?d=ny62yx314vd



Eso es amor (That's How You Know)
http://www.gigasize.com/get.php/3196067 ... s_Amor.mp3

[akhenaten]

i tried downloading but it wont work... can u email it to me? thanks

akhenaten_1881@yahoo.com

[Poody]

I would LOVE to hear them too if you could send them to me.... For some reason they weren't working on that upload site.
IamJHoISteal@aol.com

[bruno_wbt]

I sent them to you two, tell me if you recived them well.

[mariadny]

hombre, un paisano español
Viste que buena acogida ha tenido Encantada en España?

[bruno_wbt]

hombre, un paisano español
Viste que buena acogida ha tenido Encantada en España?

Sí!!!!

A mi me ha encantado la peli!!!! (I loved the movie)

[mariadny]

La película anuncia una tercera edad de oro, ya verás.

New disney golden age is coming

[akhenaten]

nope i didnt get any .waaaaaaaaa

[Prudence]

Some tidbits-
~ Sam is named after Samson, Prince Philip's horse.

I thought it was homage to her co-star Samuel E. Wright. Like how Paige O'Hara's character was named Angela, like Angela Lansbury. It just seems to make more sense.

Nope. Here's a link to an interview with Jodi Benson about her role:
http://www.buddyhollywood.com/index.php ... &Itemid=56

[Siren]

I thought it was homage to her co-star Samuel E. Wright. Like how Paige O'Hara's character was named Angela, like Angela Lansbury. It just seems to make more sense.

Nope. Here's a link to an interview with Jodi Benson about her role:
http://www.buddyhollywood.com/index.php ... &Itemid=56

I gotta nitpick here....on both the interview and Jodi.

The fish Giselle has in her mouth as a Betta also known as a Siamese Fighting Fish. Not a goldfish, not an angelfish. A betta. I just needed to get that out of my system.

[purin]

Yeah, it's definitely a betta. I thought that was funny, since bettas must be kept alone, and they wouldn't be in a tank with other fish (and they were nowhere to be found in that tank anyway). I guess it was the only fish that wouldn't be harmed by being in her mouth, since bettas are used to small amounts of polluted water, which is why you can keep them in fish bowls (as opposed to aquariums) without water filters.

[Siren]

Yeah, it's definitely a betta. I thought that was funny, since bettas must be kept alone, and they wouldn't be in a tank.I guess it was the only fish that wouldn't be harmed by being in her mouth, since bettas are used to small amounts of polluted water, which is why you can keep them in fish bowls (as opposed to aquariums) without water filters.

Yeah, there would have been NO WAY that betta was kept in that tank. The tank appeared to have salt water fish. I'd have to see the movie again to know. But I know I didn't see the betta in the tank before she ate it and I always pay close attention to scenes with animals because its just my thing. And yes, for the reasons you stated, bettas (and goldfish) can come out of a human mouth unharmed if in there for a short time. They likely had her do a few mouth washes with spring water to clean her mouth out before it went in there for it to be safe. Amy had some balls to do that, lol. I wouldn't have. Then again if I was getting her paycheck, I'd probably hold a fish in my mouth for a few seconds.

[Disney Duster]

Great movie! Its a shame that they didn't include a couple of scenes that were in the previews. I was waiting for the scene where the bus driver chases the prince after stabbing the roof of her bus. The other is the prince in the revolving door and he said "What villany is this!?" I know deleted footage makes into the trailers but these were really funny scenes. Oh well, it was a good movie anyway.

No, those scenes were in the film! When Edward runs off to start his search from Giselle (after emerging from the well), that is what they put in the trailer after the driver tells him 'Nobody stabs my bus" to make it look like he's running away fro her. Then, the part where he says "what villainy is this" somewhere else (don't remember) was inserted into the scene with the revolving door in the TV commercial.

So, I saw it, and I was analyzing it as I watched, liking things and disliking things.

I can't really say how I feel about the film as whole, I think I'll have to seei t again.

The Good:
I LOVED the animation it was beautiful, and probably my favorite parts of the whole film.

The special effects were wonderful. The way Giselle gets to New York was fantastic, though I would have done it differently. I originally thought Pip didn't look real enough, but in the film he was fine, and needed to move cartoonishly. The dragon was okay, except, as has been said, it should have had more dragon-like eyes, and perhaps moved a bit more convincingly.

The camera work was wonderful. Like that shot of Gislle getting pushed down the strairs to the subway, then passing over it to show the Disney dust/well water that she trailed behind her, and back to her emerging from the stairs. And as Disneykid[/i] said, the ballroom scene was shot beautifully, and actually I'm pretty sure the Robert and Giselle's dance was shot was similar to the angles and shots in Beauty and the Beast's dancing scene.

Nancy was actually one of the characters that I really liked for some reason, probably because she seemed real. Jumping to negative assumptions, but looking at everything and thinking about it, even giving reasons for her opinions, from Robert's flowers to Edward.

Giselle was a sweet, princessy princess all the way through, New York didn't change her personality, just her thoughts and views on life, and her decisions.

The Bad:
But Giselle was a little too naive and I think even Snow White knew a little more than her. But she is supposed to represent every princess for the average non-UD viewer, and her lack of anger or other things that made her more "real" was really like syaing the princesses of older Disney films didn't have that, either.

Prince Edward was not like a Disney Prince. He was much more macho than Snow White's or Cinderella's, and even though he's heavily based on Phillip, he still was too narcissistic and stupid. If he was going for a different character than any of the other Disney princes, okay, but as a representation of all the Disney princes who came before him, he's a bad and untruthful one.

There were these nonsensical inconstencies that bothered me. I can't remember them all, but one was Robert saying he would call someone and Giselle, not knowing about phones, said, "I don't think anyone woud hear you from here." But more than once she sang and someone, like Prince Edward, heard her from very far away!

They didn't really discuss love and really smartly get into why people can or can't stay together. Like, Giselle saying that the woman's eyes sparkled, and that being the catylist for her and her husband deciding to stay together. Now, I know from experience that cuteness and physical attraction do actually have a lot to do with love, but to decide to stay together just because of that thing...instead, Giselle should have talked to them more about if they had wonderful times together, and why the bad times matter more than the good times. That's just one example, I can't remember everyhing that bothered me.

Some of the messages in this film could be bad. "That's How You Know" tells you to think of ways to show the people you love how much you love them. That's fine. But when Robert decides to treat Nancy to flowers and a ball, does he know that's what she would want, is that what he wants to do, or was it all Giselle's influence? And when Nancy says that it is so unlike Robert, that's like saying you should be unlike yourself so a person will like you!

I thought the dragon talking was fine, Maleficent as a dragon laughed in her own voice. But she was defeated cheaply, that was a problem. I also felt Giselle should have done more, including actually defeat the villain (with Pip's help, not Pip doing the whole task!), but the way she saved Robert was at least clever to a degree, so she used her brain. Or was it just a quick reaction?

And Narissa's line about a twist on the story making Robert the damsel in distress was horrible for many reasons. One, in indicates Narissa recognizes she's in a story, like it's not real, and that the girl being a fighter/rescuer is a twist, instead of just thinking it's normal, which it should be. But it also draws attention to the fact that Giselle is the first princess (who's actually a fairy tale princess, non of that Mulan malarky) to be weilding a sword and preparing to fight the villain, which makes every princess before her look bad. Girls shouldn't be taught to think that princesses fighting or saving people is a twist, they should think it's perfectly acceptable.

[Ariel'sprince]

Disney Duster,why you think Giselle was too naive?.
And does she want to see more about the world? (like Ariel,Belle and etc.).

[Disney Duster]

Disney Duster,why you think Giselle was too naive?.
And does she want to see more about the world? (like Ariel,Belle and etc.).

Giselle does not know what anger is, or sarcasm, or a lot of more cynical views on life. It's like she only knows kindness, happiness, and sadness. She also usually assumes the best of things, which makes her a nice person, but it's better to consider how good and bad things can turn out.

Giselle is like the other princesses in that she is unsatisfied with her current life. She lives in a cottage like Aurora and Snow White, and she dreams of a prince like them. However, it all seems to be about the prince. Giselle seeks love. The other princesses wanted to escape a villain or a boring life. In the beginning, Giselle doesn't seem to have those problems, she just wants a prince.

And her dragon form was phenomenal. I love that she didn't have wings.

Now, I didn't particularly notice her wings in the film, maybe they edited them out for the final film, but in the trailer:

I'm thinking she had wings.

Also, more Disney references not mentioned here yet:
The giant's loincloth is made out of cloth from the dresses of Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and Belle. His earrings are Ariel's purple shells!

Giselle's dress at the ball has references to Ariel. The dress is tapered almost like a mermaid tail, how it conforms to her lower body but fans out at the bottom, and the way it's bunched around her breasts looks like Ariel's purple shells!

I am almost 99% sure I saw the top of Cinderella's head on a poster in the window of the bookstore Nethaniel does his signing!

[Joshrzmeup]

I saw the film again tonight and I could have sworn I heard a swear word.

When the bus driver is getting off of the bus and some of the patrons are yelling, I could have swore I heard someone yell (and clearly) "get the f--- out of here."

[Siren]

Oh yeah, maybe they were so small compared to her length I didn't notice. Doubt she could fly well on them.