Disney to Stop Animated DVD-Only Sequels

All topics relating to Disney-branded content.
Timon/Pumbaa fan
Platinum Edition
Posts: 3675
Joined: Sat Feb 12, 2005 4:45 pm

Post by Timon/Pumbaa fan »

Disney-Fan wrote:2. Maybe so, but trust me when I say, I've talked to people about the sequels. During a time, for example, when only Little Mermaid II was in print, people based their perception on the original movie based on the quality of the second. 'Cause it's a sequel, so it must have some resemblance, right? We all know how wrong that statement is, yet sadly people assumed that the originals offered the same kind of turd the sequels did. So, you see, people's beliefs that Disney is for the 3-years-under market has only been justified based on those pieces of horse crap. I did say "added" to the perception, didn't I? :?
Well, considering you used The Little Mermaid as an example, I don't think the people you've talked to are far off. :wink:

And no, while DTVs might be bad, they don't really target to youngins. I'm not saying they're targeted to a large audience, but saying they're only targeted to toddlers is, imo, wrong. Disney fanatics see the sequels just out of curiosity for example. And having seen most, I don't think they're targeted at young kids only. Some have moments that target way above them(especially The Lion King 1 1/2). Your comment can also be said about the originals if you're really putting much examination into this.
User avatar
Disney's Divinity
Ultimate Collector's Edition
Posts: 16239
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 9:26 am
Gender: Male

Post by Disney's Divinity »

I'm glad they were specifically saying "direct-to-DVD" sequels, because sequels aren't always a bad thing--when done right. Some movies just shouldn't have sequels, regardless of if you can find another story to tell.
Well, considering you used The Little Mermaid as an example, I don't think the people you've talked to are far off
Somehow I knew that was coming.
Image
Listening to most often lately:
Taylor Swift ~ ~ "The Fate of Ophelia"
Taylor Swift ~ "Eldest Daughter"
Taylor Swift ~ "CANCELLED!"
Disneyfreak1990
Special Edition
Posts: 529
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: america

Post by Disneyfreak1990 »

well as long as they don't make a theatricl Snow White 2: More Whiteness, i'll be fine.
oh and to contribute to the difference between a sequel and an original film with the same people. the sequel usually has every character back but in the case of Tinkerbell it doesn't so it's an original film with everyones favorie fairy. now i have a question is she a fairy or a pixie?
members i like:Jasmine1022, Lazario(when he's in a good mood), Escapy, Prudence, Blackcauldron85, Anthony, and Mason Ireton.
Members i dislike: Lazario(when he's in a bad mood).
User avatar
akhenaten
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1267
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:12 pm
Location: kuala lumpur, malaysia
Contact:

Post by akhenaten »

i beg to differ. the enchanted tales r harmless additions as they are more like short stories that does nothing to alter the history of the characters, compared to official sequels where they have kids, or go back to the future, or have their history twisted or break up with hot boyfriend.

and the animation does look very much improved compared to DTVs. i personally would love to see their take on a snow white, pocahontas and mulan stories. just think of it as reading the companion comics or short stories on disney books(that are available) or the disney princess magazines that are animated on special occasions.. heck even jiminy cricket and figaro pops up in short films not set in their world. what do u say bout that? :)
do you still wait for me Dream Giver?
User avatar
Disney Villain
Special Edition
Posts: 607
Joined: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:37 pm
Location: Windermere, FL

Post by Disney Villain »

FIRST OF ALL... there was never any confirmation that Enchanted Tales was cancelled. We know for a fact that Disney stopped ALL sequels. The only news source that came out and said that Enchanted Tales was cancelled was Jim Hill. Everything that he says should be taken with a grain of salt. He says allot of things that NEVER happen.

Listen when I tell you that Enchanted Tales will not die. At the Licensing International Expo, held in Manhattan, last week, Disney Consumer Products President Andy Mooney, talked about the brand new Princess Marketing Campaign, Enchanted Tales. He talked about its future, with all new short films featuring your Favorite Princesses. This leads me to believe that other volumes of Enchanted Tales are already made. This is supposed to be a whole new marketing campaign for Disney, so I honestly think that it will continue to grow.


AND to comments like Julian Carter's. HELLO... Enchanted Tales is (not was) a GREAT idea. The Princess line is huge. The majority of little girls don't even own the original Sleeping Beauty or Aladdin, and if they do watch the films, then the stories may not be their favorites (due to villains, etc.). I have 13 little cousins, all girls, except for two boys. They LOVE the Princesses, but the original films scare them. When they watch those films, I have to skip certain parts. Enchanted Tales allows them to watch their favorite princesses do actual things, rather then just sit there waiting for Love, while at the same time teaching morals. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? NOTHING THAT'S WHAT! My cousins are so excited for Enchanted Tales. It's a new set of films that allow little girls to re-discover their favorite princesses and learn a lesson. For that I applaud Disney. AND EXCUSE ME, but the Animation for Enchanted Tales is GREAT. Huge steps above things like Belle’s Magical World and Return of Jafar. And did you see the backgrounds for the new Aurora story, because they are fantastic? These stories are meant for those little girls, not to entertain families of all ages, like the original films did. Of course Disney fans, like me, will buy these films even though we know that we're not the target audience, and I’m okay with that.
Image
User avatar
akhenaten
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1267
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:12 pm
Location: kuala lumpur, malaysia
Contact:

Post by akhenaten »

i wonder if lasseter would scrutinise and supervise these enchanted tales productions, we will finally get princesses that act true to their personality and attitude in the original movie. look at how they butchered cinderella's loving charming attitude to make it more modern in cindy 3.ugh! she doesnt have to be feisty and strong just to suit our modern conception. keep her the way she was in the 50s without having her being damsel in distress, this is not barbie that regularly needs makeovers.
do you still wait for me Dream Giver?
User avatar
Poody
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1268
Joined: Tue Nov 14, 2006 9:31 pm
Location: San Diego
Contact:

Post by Poody »

akhenaten wrote:i wonder if lasseter would scrutinise and supervise these enchanted tales productions
I pray he won't.... :lol:
Image
User avatar
Jules
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4623
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:20 am
Gender: Male
Location: Malta, Europe
Contact:

Post by Jules »

Disney Villain wrote:AND to comments like Julian Carter's. HELLO... Enchanted Tales is (not was) a GREAT idea. The Princess line is huge. The majority of little girls don't even own the original Sleeping Beauty or Aladdin, and if they do watch the films, then the stories may not be their favorites (due to villains, etc.). I have 13 little cousins, all girls, except for two boys. They LOVE the Princesses, but the original films scare them. When they watch those films, I have to skip certain parts. Enchanted Tales allows them to watch their favorite princesses do actual things, rather then just sit there waiting for Love, while at the same time teaching morals. WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT? NOTHING THAT'S WHAT! My cousins are so excited for Enchanted Tales. It's a new set of films that allow little girls to re-discover their favorite princesses and learn a lesson. For that I applaud Disney. AND EXCUSE ME, but the Animation for Enchanted Tales is GREAT. Huge steps above things like Belle’s Magical World and Return of Jafar. And did you see the backgrounds for the new Aurora story, because they are fantastic? These stories are meant for those little girls, not to entertain families of all ages, like the original films did. Of course Disney fans, like me, will buy these films even though we know that we're not the target audience, and I’m okay with that.
There's nothing really wrong with morals. It's just that ... grrr ... why teach it through the Disney Princesses? Can't they leave the stuff to Barney, the Care bears, or er ... the Teletubbies?

Making stuff like this cheapens the characters emanating from prestigious Disney Classics. Wouldn't you be upset if they made a spin-off from The Sound of Music featuring Maria singing morals? Aren't many Disney animated films considered masterpieces, just as much as TSoM? Then why should they have this fate?

If Disney want to teach morals, then they should create an original character to do so. Who's for a TV series called "Cuthbert the Kind Kid", with the first episode entitled "It's Kind to be a Kind Person"? With that, I have no problem. Bring on Cuthbert!

PS: I thought the animation for Enchanted Tales, that I saw on the sneak peak on the TLM DVD was, frankly, very poor and lacking of emotion.

PPS: Go Cuthbert! Go Cuthbert! Oh yeah!
User avatar
Disney-Fan
Platinum Edition
Posts: 3381
Joined: Wed Jan 26, 2005 8:59 am
Location: Where it's flat and immense and the heat is intense
Contact:

Post by Disney-Fan »

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:And no, while DTVs might be bad, they don't really target to youngins. I'm not saying they're targeted to a large audience, but saying they're only targeted to toddlers is, imo, wrong.
Well you're in a very small minority on this one. Every review / comment / whatever I've heard about the sequels from people outside the Disney fandom has been mediocre at best and most (if not all) say they are purely for the kiddies. And lets be frank for a moment. We all know that for every Lion King 1.5 there are 2-3 Hunchback-quality sequels to counter it.
"See, I'm not a monster. I'm just ahead of the curve." - The Joker
User avatar
akhenaten
Anniversary Edition
Posts: 1267
Joined: Wed Oct 29, 2003 3:12 pm
Location: kuala lumpur, malaysia
Contact:

Post by akhenaten »

in anticipation of enchanted, i hope she will be teamed up with poca, mulan,tiana,and rapunzel as the second batch of major princesses. to think there could be new adventures of giselle. ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

oh..i read in wikipedia on the disney princesses. it listed jasmine singing twelve days of christmas..shouldnt she be muslim thus not celebrate christmas?
do you still wait for me Dream Giver?
ichabod
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4676
Joined: Thu Sep 25, 2003 8:29 am
Location: The place where they didn't build EuroDisney
Contact:

Post by ichabod »

akhenaten wrote:oh..i read in wikipedia on the disney princesses. it listed jasmine singing twelve days of christmas..shouldnt she be muslim thus not celebrate christmas?
In the realm of Disney EVERYONE celebrates Christmas, or it's the death penalty!

;)
User avatar
Jules
Diamond Edition
Posts: 4623
Joined: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:20 am
Gender: Male
Location: Malta, Europe
Contact:

Post by Jules »

Hmm ... I wonder whether I should start a "Cuthbert the Kind Kid" thread in off-topic, and start writing stories for him, posting them regularly. You never know, he might garner a cult following. :wink:

And if Disney steal my character, I'll sue them. :twisted:
Disneyfreak1990
Special Edition
Posts: 529
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:34 pm
Location: america

Post by Disneyfreak1990 »

they do steal your character and you sue them i doubt you'll win since the common people almost never win against the companies of fame ie: Disney, Sony, Nintendo, Universal,etc...
and as for Jasmine singing the 12 days of christmas people of different relgions sing christmas songs too so why can't muslims?
members i like:Jasmine1022, Lazario(when he's in a good mood), Escapy, Prudence, Blackcauldron85, Anthony, and Mason Ireton.
Members i dislike: Lazario(when he's in a bad mood).
User avatar
Lightyear
Special Edition
Posts: 502
Joined: Mon Mar 14, 2005 8:14 am
Location: Philadelphia PA, USA
Contact:

Disney ends direct-to-DVD movies

Post by Lightyear »

! !EBAY BOOTLEG'ERS! !
STDVDS : gasconsherri : haasenterprises : helppay4kidscollege : mtandk0614 : zoosed : sniperxray2 : moker04 : dvdtitan : jedsdvds4u : dvd_isle : ander_island : hollabrady : aikon83 : nowentertmt : tell_your_story
PixarFan2006
Signature Collection
Posts: 6166
Joined: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:44 am
Location: Michigan

Post by PixarFan2006 »

Post Reply