Upcoming Platinum Editions: Sleeping Beauty 2008, 2009...

[Disney Duster]

and to whoever said that the october date is a princess release let's check, Snow White check, Beauty and the Beast check, Lion King what princess is there that i missed?, Alladin check, Cinderella check, Mermaid check, Jungle Book ugh what princess is in this film anyway?, SB double check, after this all we'll have left is Pinocchio and Fantasia and none of them have a princess or did i miss her?

Well, we meant that the princesses have always been released in October. Meaning that October will always be a princess release. In the Spring we had Bambi, not a princess, then we had Lady and the Tramp, not a princess, then we had Peter Pan, not a princess. The princess movies are the more popular movies at Disney, and for some reason October is seen as the bigger month for releasing bigger, more popular movies, probably because then the October movies are out two months before Christmas, the big holiday when lots of DVDs will be bought. More people will buy the princess films as they are more popular.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

My main complaint, however, is the video quality. The feature is unsightly. It's riddled with grain and artifacts, the former being the worst offender. The colours look rather washed out, especially in "The Pastoral Symphony". I think the worst looking segment is "Night on Bald Mountain".

I cannot really remember that the Fantasia VHS was that terrible, but I might not have watched it for a few years...

[Escapay]

But I do have a question, everyone keeps saying they really HOPE this or they really HOPE that, so I guess we can't trust the current official release schedules? I mean, is Disney prone to changing the release dates over the history of the Platinum series or is this just a recent phenomenon?

Well, they change their release "policy" every so often:

The Limited Issues were originally only in print 8 weeks, but soon after all 9 were released, a boxset showed up with all the titles (I'm sure that also was only available for 8 weeks). Then when they had excess copies, they repackaged three of them as Gold Classic Collection discs (Pinocchio, Hercules, and Mulan). Then the other 6 titles were offered as a free DVD for people who pre-ordered Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs: Platinum Edition in 2001. I remember even reading on the boards that some people pre-ordered Snow White six times just to get the other titles.

Also, the Gold Classic Collection titles were originally supposed to stay in print indefinitely, regardless if a title was re-visited later in a special edition set. The first titles to go out of print were Pinocchio and Mulan in January 2003 (and I'm sure the GCC disc for A Bug's Life went out of print sooner than that). Then the Alice in Wonderland, Pocahontas, and Mary Poppins GCC discs went out of print a short while before their two-disc editions were released. Following those three titles, The Aristocats, Robin Hood, and The Fox and the Hound went OOP in Janjary 2006 to make way for their respective re-releases (though The Aristocats was pushed back from March 2007 to Spring 2008). And this year we saw the OOP'ing of Saludos Amigos and The Three Caballeros. It's also interesting to note that the GCC disc for Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas is a seasonal title (like many other holiday discs from Disney) and only available in the winter.

The Platinums as we all know were originally supposed to be one a year (every October), but in May 2003, they added four more titles to the line: Pinocchio, Fantasia, Peter Pan, and Sleeping Beauty. They also changed the order of the original ten titles, and added the February/March slot as well. Then in March 2006, we first got the news that Peter Pan was being moved from its Platinum Schedule to a Spring 2007 release, and at the time, many of us believed it meant it was removed from the Platinum line, in order to tie-in to the Tinker Bell movie. Of course, come October, the insert in The Little Mermaid: Platinum Edition announces that Peter Pan was the new March 2007 Platinum, thus bumping 101 Dalmatians to 2008, while The Jungle Book remained intact in its October 2007 slot.

And the Treasures have had only a couple "changes" to their releases. The third wave of Treasures were delayed from December 2003 to May 2004, in order to manufacture more discs and to remove Roy E. Disney's signature from the sets. In lieu of a wave three Treasures, December 2003 instead saw The Ultimate Treasure Chest, a Costco-exclusive boxset that repackaged the first two waves (without tins, certificate of authenticities, or reproduction posters).

Escapay

[PeterPanfan]

Why did they need to remove Roy's signature from the treasure sets..?

[Mason_Ireton]

Because of Mr. Eisner's uncanny ability being a complete *bleep*hole to Roy's view of the company's direction. Thus Roy was in the midst of forcing Eisner out of C.E.O/Studio too. Hopefully I got my info correct.

[Disneyfreak1990]

they don't like him?
i bet that after these are done with we'll we seeing the Diamond Editions since i's higher than Platinum in everything else.

[PeterPanfan]

Diamond Editions...sounds catchy.

[Escapay]

Why did they need to remove Roy's signature from the treasyre sets..?

He and Stan Gold left the Walt Disney Company and began their SaveDisney campaign. So in turn, Disney removed his signature from the sets (but they were re-instated come Wave 5). Regardless if Roy's siggy was on it or not, the Treasures were more Leonard Maltin's project, anyway. And honestly, I never really cared whose siggy was on the case, so long as the releases were good.

ETA:
Sorry, my mistake, Roy's signatures weren't re-instated on the Treasures, despite him and Gold returning to the Mouse House. Likely due to having him branch off to the Legacy Collection in 2006, but that unfortunately seems to be a bust now...

Escapay

[PeterPanfan]

Oh okay...just curious. =] Thanks!

[disneyboy20022]

and to whoever said that the october date is a princess release let's check, Snow White check, Beauty and the Beast check, Lion King what princess is there that i missed?, Alladin check, Cinderella check, Mermaid check, Jungle Book ugh what princess is in this film anyway?, SB double check, after this all we'll have left is Pinocchio and Fantasia and none of them have a princess or did i miss her?

Well, we meant that the princesses have always been released in October. Meaning that October will always be a princess release. In the Spring we had Bambi, not a princess, then we had Lady and the Tramp, not a princess, then we had Peter Pan, not a princess. The princess movies are the more popular movies at Disney, and for some reason October is seen as the bigger month for releasing bigger, more popular movies, probably because then the October movies are out two months before Christmas, the big holiday when lots of DVDs will be bought. More people will buy the princess films as they are more popular.

I think what Disneyfreak1990 was trying to say is that the year of when The Lion King was released they got off that road of "princesses in october" because if I recall correctly which I know for a fact I do that The Lion King Platinum Edition was released in an October and there is no princess theme in that movie unless you count Nala.... But I dont think she counts....


And then The Jungle Book will be released this October hence there is no princess theme in that movie either... I think the theme of the October PE releases goes as follows

Princess - Snow White

Princess - Belle - Beauty and the Beast PE

Animal themed Disney Film - The Lion King

Princess - Cinderella

Princess - Ariel - The Little Mermaid

Animal themd Disney film -- The Jungle Book

and that's how it's happened each october... Princess Princess Animal or Princess Princess movie without a Disney Princess

[Spottedfeather]

I am more than satisfied with the SE Sleeping Beauty that I have. The picture was great, I loved the commentary (though, it could get a bit boring at times), and the extras were just fine. What more could they do with it ? I may pick up the Fantasia one, though....just as long as they don't cut out the centaur scene again. I like a film with every scene included, no matter who may be offended by it. People need to lighten up. I just got Peter Pan PE and the "What Makes The Red Man Red" scene was a little cringe-worthy, and while I really don't care for the way Indians are portrayed, it was nowhere near bad enough to make me want to do anything about it.

[MarcChris]

Maybe anyone can help me with this:
Would there be a difference regarding the extras of SLEEPING BEAUTY in the Platinum Edition compred with the Special Edition? What do you think? Will everything be the same as in SE? What would be different?

[darth_deetoo]

They could do a new documentary instead of having archival material.

I just hope it gets a Blu Ray release, I think Sleeping Beauty would really shine in hi def.

[Billy Moon]

They could do a new documentary instead of having archival material.

They could and they should but I'm quite sure they won't. By archival material you mean the old making of, right? It was left intact for Peter Pan and Sleeping Beauty will probably have the same old making of as well. As I said before, these two are likely just filler titles to the Platinum line to leave enough time to create exras for the remaining ones.

[Dottie]

Who knows what will happen to Disney's release policy when Blu-Ray should really kick off, and the first DACs get released on Blu-Ray.
I do hope though that they will release SW either on DVD only or on both formats: DVD and hi-def. Many people missed out on the SW PE, so a release on Blu-Ray only wouldn't make much money, since by next year or 2009, IMHO the format war will not be over yet.
The same thing goes for SB next year. It would certainly look stunning in hi-def, but many people might still prefer DVD.

[Atlantica]

There has been a massive push of Sleeping Beauty merchandice in the UK, so that could be in preparation for next year. It would tie in with Enchanted Tales as well. Just like Tinkerbell was supposed to tie in with the Peter Pan Platinum Edition.

[ohmahaaha]

This news about "Sleeping Beauty" really stinks. I have nothing against the movie, but we JUST HAD a "Special Edition" which I considered to be a "Platinum Edition" in disguise JUST A FEW YEARS AGO.

Come on, Disney ... what, did the people who used to work on the Treasures before somebody brought them back get reassigned to the Platinum Edition division??

Seriously, I love Sleeping Beauty, and I loved the Special Edition. WE DON'T NEED A PLATINUM EDITION THIS SOON. I want to see "Pinocchio" and "Fantasia;" they are both WAY OVERDUE for the Platinum series.

[Billy Moon]

I'd rather give them the time to come up with decent extras for Pinocchio than have it released next.
The UK Special Edition of Pinocchio was an insult.

[Disneyfreak1990]

Well, we meant that the princesses have always been released in October. Meaning that October will always be a princess release. In the Spring we had Bambi, not a princess, then we had Lady and the Tramp, not a princess, then we had Peter Pan, not a princess. The princess movies are the more popular movies at Disney, and for some reason October is seen as the bigger month for releasing bigger, more popular movies, probably because then the October movies are out two months before Christmas, the big holiday when lots of DVDs will be bought. More people will buy the princess films as they are more popular.

I think what Disneyfreak1990 was trying to say is that the year of when The Lion King was released they got off that road of "princesses in october" because if I recall correctly which I know for a fact I do that The Lion King Platinum Edition was released in an October and there is no princess theme in that movie unless you count Nala.... But I dont think she counts....


And then The Jungle Book will be released this October hence there is no princess theme in that movie either... I think the theme of the October PE releases goes as follows

Princess - Snow White

Princess - Belle - Beauty and the Beast PE

Animal themed Disney Film - The Lion King

Princess - Cinderella

Princess - Ariel - The Little Mermaid

Animal themd Disney film -- The Jungle Book

and that's how it's happened each october... Princess Princess Animal or Princess Princess movie without a Disney Princess

actually it was a jokeing point that nobody got. sorry if it sounded like that.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

You know, some people seem to "read" so much into this PE ploy that it's hard sometimes to tell when someone is serious or not. But this time you did use a "laughie", so I guess you're not to blame.