The Queen of Hearts

Jay · Post by **Jay** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:11 pm

Discuss your opinions on the Queen of Hearts.

numba1lostboy · Post by **numba1lostboy** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:22 pm

Very large and in need of a nap.

Escapay · Post by **Escapay** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 10:41 pm

A wet dream for someone specializing in Anger Management.

Escapay

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 11:05 pm

I nevder really saw her as an evil being. Just a wacko. Whenever they depict her as an evil person I kinda say to myself, "nah, she not really an evil person."

Chernabog_Rocks · Post by **Chernabog_Rocks** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 12:32 am

I guess growing up in Wonderland would drive anybody mad

She reminds me of those spoiled kids who throw temper tantrums for not getting what they want

It would be interesting to see her run for election

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 1:15 am

Chernabog_Rocks wrote:I guess growing up in Wonderland would drive anybody mad She reminds me of those spoiled kids who throw temper tantrums for not getting what they want It would be interesting to see her run for election

Everyone should run away once she loses the election.

cheshirecat · Post by **cheshirecat** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 8:32 am

I like her because she's a nutcase, she is just hilarious! She is exremely flamboyant wich is unusual for Disney villains and probaly the most insane villain in disney history.

Disneyfreak1990 · Post by **Disneyfreak1990** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:09 am

shes a nutcase always blameing people for anything for no good reason. like in the movie when she got Alice in trouble for something the Mad Hatter, The March Hare, and The Cheshire Cat did. in Kingdom Hearts she blamed Alice for trying to steal her heart while she blamed Sora, Donald, and Goofy for defying her when they brought evidence to free Alice. in Kingdom Hearts COM she blames Alice for makeing her forget things.

this woman belongs in the looney bin.
i have one question, is Disney's version of the Cheshire Cat a villian? i'm asking because in the Kingdom Hearts Manga it showed that he was working with the villians but it was confusing.
the only Disney adaption so far where she isn't mad is Adventures In Wonderland TV show that was on when i was little. she was pretty nice to everyone including Alice.
but the only GOH i would not want to meet is American Mcgees version where she is uglier than Disney's version.

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 10:31 am

cheshirecat wrote: exremely flamboyant wich is unusual for Disney villains and probaly the most insane villain in disney history.

I agree with Cheshire,Trisha (Queen Of <3) is rather flamboyant which is rather amusing to me. They could've lean more towards the book, which she's semi sane but the Disney verison is enjoyable. As Alice described Trisha

Alice: You're just a fat, pompus, bad ill tempered old tyrant

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 5:54 pm

Mason_Ireton wrote:As Alice described Trisha...

The Queen of Hearts is named Trisha?!

Mason_Ireton · Post by **Mason_Ireton** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:09 pm

Sorry for the confusions, but that's what I do, name characters with actual names instead of: The Evil Queen I'd probaly call her, Slyvia or The Blue Fairy, Helen. Queen of <3 looks like a Trisha to moi. Again sorry for the confusion.

Chernabog_Rocks · Post by **Chernabog_Rocks** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 6:15 pm

Disneyfreak1990 wrote: i have one question, is Disney's version of the Cheshire Cat a villian? i'm asking because in the Kingdom Hearts Manga it showed that he was working with the villians but it was confusing.

I went and double checked my copy of the manga and one of the villains (I'm assuming Jafar or Hook) said "That darn cat, it needs to shut it's big mouth" and in another panel someone said "We should have finished him off when he turned down our offer" But someone mentions that he can't do them much harm if they let him live. So I'm assuming they approached the Cheshire Cat and made him some kind of offer but he turned it down. Of course he is mad (living in Wonderland and all) so he also isn't completly sane. I think he's one of those Neutral characters, not good but not evil either.

Super Aurora · Post by **Super Aurora** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 7:59 pm

Chernabog_Rocks wrote:
Disneyfreak1990 wrote: i have one question, is Disney's version of the Cheshire Cat a villian? i'm asking because in the Kingdom Hearts Manga it showed that he was working with the villians but it was confusing.

I went and double checked my copy of the manga and one of the villains (I'm assuming Jafar or Hook) said "That darn cat, it needs to shut it's big mouth" and in another panel someone said "We should have finished him off when he turned down our offer" But someone mentions that he can't do them much harm if they let him live. So I'm assuming they approached the Cheshire Cat and made him some kind of offer but he turned it down. Of course he is mad (living in Wonderland and all) so he also isn't completly sane. I think he's one of those Neutral characters, not good but not evil either.

I don't believe ANYONE is really evil in Wonderland. they are too insane and wacky to be considered evil.

PixarFan2006 · Post by **PixarFan2006** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:37 am

She's a psychopath who enjoys (or tries to) cut peoples heads off for no reason or if they make her mad.

2099net · Post by **2099net** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:01 pm

Much as my stomach churns at having to discuss anything to do with Alice in Wonderland (only joking Disneykid!

) I have to say:

Of course the Queen of Hearts is a villain! She wants to kill Alice. It doesn't matter if she needs to go on anger management courses, consume less E numbers or just have a nap. She wants to kill the heroine.

What does one have to do in a Disney film to be a villain? Kill the protagonist's parents before deciding too actually off the hero too?

But more to the point, I do consider the Cheshire Cat as a villain. He is clearly verbally playing with Alice, just as a normal cat plays with mice. He offers her hope of understanding or direction, and pulls it away. Just as a cat offers mice with a hope of escape before pouncing again on its prey. In fact, I consisider the Cheshire Cat to be a creepy and sinister villain. Like some people are scared by clowns, I find the cat's grin, smooth voice and outwardly friendly disposition makes him more of a villain than - say - the Queen of Hearts.

Prudence · Post by **Prudence** » Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:35 pm

Mason_Ireton wrote:Sorry for the confusions, but that's what I do, name characters with actual names instead of: The Evil Queen I'd probaly call her, Slyvia or The Blue Fairy, Helen. Queen of <3 looks like a Trisha to moi. Again sorry for the confusion.

Trisha is short for Patricia, which is the name of my little cousin. Hah. That suits her, although the Queen of Hearts is royalty, not nobility. Patricia means "noble."

Ariel'sprince · Post by **Ariel'sprince** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:06 pm

Disneyfreak1990 wrote:is Disney's version of the Cheshire Cat a villian? i'm asking because in the Kingdom Hearts Manga it showed that he was working with the villians but it was confusing.

i ignore the horrible manga,The Chashire Cat is a villain? The Princess (basiclly Belle and Jasmine) screaming "Oh,someone save me!"? Aladdin is selfish? Hercules is dumb? Sora,Donald and Goofy tell Ariel "oh,you go home and make us some food,we'll kill Ursula"? Ariel is swimming around when Ursula is giant? this manga is horrible and i ignore her (and Kingdom Hearts II which was bad,too).

pap64 · Post by **pap64** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 2:44 pm

Ariel'sprince wrote:
Disneyfreak1990 wrote:is Disney's version of the Cheshire Cat a villian? i'm asking because in the Kingdom Hearts Manga it showed that he was working with the villians but it was confusing.
i ignore the horrible manga,The Chashire Cat is a villain? The Princess (basiclly Belle and Jasmine) screaming "Oh,someone save me!"? Aladdin is selfish? Hercules is dumb? Sora,Donald and Goofy tell Ariel "oh,you go home and make us some food,we'll kill Ursula"? Ariel is swimming around when Ursula is giant? this manga is horrible and i ignore her (and Kingdom Hearts II which was bad,too).

Indeed the videogames are MUCH better and truer to the original films.

To the creator of this thread, can you post the links to all the villain threads you have made? I've missed many of them and it would be cool if there were links to them.

reyquila · Post by **reyquila** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:02 pm

She appears in Alice in Wonderland and I own the Gold Collection issue and the Special Edition!!!

candydog · Post by **candydog** » Sat Sep 01, 2007 3:15 pm

Does anyone else think that she looks different in theme parks? She's recognisable because of the dress but the face is completely different!

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