Next wave of Walt Disney Treasures? Update: Future In Doubt

[Douglas Fir]

I know the Winnie the Pooh stuff all came out after Walt's death but I've always felt that a Complete Winnie the Pooh Treasure set would be very very popular (and would probably sell really well even to people who hadn't collected previous Treasures).

Winnie the Pooh and the Honey Tree (1966)
Winnie the Pooh and the Blustery Day (1968)
Winnie the Pooh and Tigger Too (1974)
A Day of Eeyore (1983)

+ The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh (1977) - Or at least include the new footage if there wasn't enough room for the whole movie.

+ Winnie the Pooh Discovers the Seasons (1981) - Plus the other educational shorts produced (I've read that four where produced but the Seasons one is the only one that ever seems to get named)!

Plus maybe a featurette about how Disney got involved with Pooh and the character's history.

Either way if I think it would sell very well and would maybe help extend the lifetime of the Treasures format so we could some more rare stuff released (I agree that things like Swamp Fox need wrapping up in addition to the more popular animated material).

[UrsushH.Bear]

The many adventures of WTP - is a compilation of the first three shorts and was theatrically released. Most recently, the anniversary edition of WTP also included a day for eeyore.

[Big Disney Fan]

The many adventures of WTP - is a compilation of the first three shorts and was theatrically released. Most recently, the anniversary edition of WTP also included a day for eeyore.

Yeah, "Many Adventures of WTP" is considered a full-blown animated feature and is the 22nd animated feature in the Disney animated feature canon. Maybe they'll release a 30th anniversary edition DVD with not only "Day For Eeyore" as a bonus, but also the seasons one.

[MikeyMouse]

If Leonard is given the opportunity to "finish what he started", so to speak, then here is what's left from previous Waves:

2 more volumes of Donald
The second Hardy Boys and Spin & Marty serials
Vol. 2 of Swamp Fox/Elfego Baca
Another Disneyland Anthology (with titles mentioned previously in this thread)
Another disc of Rarities
Perhaps more MMC

That being said, there's nothing that states all of these NEED to be completed, but there's plenty of material from stuff that's already started to put out at least two more Waves if the powers-that-be allow it. One more Wave is almost an absolute certainty. This doesn't even include all the additional ideas mentioned in this thread (Educational shorts being the most likely candidate, since they actually were in the Walt-era, which is what Maltin said was the goal of the series all along).

The best thing to do, IMO, is to wait and hear from Bill Cotter or even Leonard himself if there WILL be a 7th Wave before we all start speculating as to what they might be or mourning the cessation of the series.

[Big Disney Fan]

Would Donald in Mathmagicland be part of those 59 DD Cartoons?

Well, it's a Donald toon, ain't it? Maybe they could release on the set twice, once as a regular short and the second as part of the pilot episode of Wonderful World of Color: "An Adventure In Color/Mathmagicland". I think that episode should be included at some point on the Treasures line, if not as part of a Von Drake set, then as a bonus feature for a Donald DVD.

[mcduck]

Well as I said before I hope this last wave to be the last or a least the one before the last one, do not take me wrong, this are by far one of the greatest dvds aver made by Disney, besides packaging and restoring issues (which takes away the collectible price on them) the content by itself is just great and not even far to be found in other releases a least in this amount, now at this point we can see that titles like “Complete Pluto V2" or “More Silly S.” were not mean to be (but we enjoy them equally) and this demonstrates that some level of completeness has been achieved and overpassed, part of its value resides in their quantity (of titles), this are not the “every single cartoon” or the “nostalgia” series, and Oswald in the Legacy collection is a clear sing of the “finale” , but also as I mention I really hope for a re-release of this contents a least in a non collectible series.

[slave2moonlight]

If Leonard is given the opportunity to "finish what he started", so to speak, then here is what's left from previous Waves:

2 more volumes of Donald
The second Hardy Boys and Spin & Marty serials
Vol. 2 of Swamp Fox/Elfego Baca
Another Disneyland Anthology (with titles mentioned previously in this thread)
Another disc of Rarities
Perhaps more MMC

That being said, there's nothing that states all of these NEED to be completed

I'd have to say that, in my opinion, the following are what "need" to be released before the series is closed, if only for the sake of respecting the consumers who have bought the Treasures so loyally over the years. Of course, I know that is not a big concern, but if anyone at the company cares...

Release the rest of the Donald Duck shorts

Release the rest of the Swamp Fox/Baca shows

Release one more set of shorts that includes McDuck and Money, Pooh Discovers the Seasons, the Jiminy Cricket shorts, and any of the other unreleased shorts, which I know are mostly (but not all) educational, and without much concern about what is pre and post Walt. Another I have neglected to remember in this thread is the EPCOT Educational Media short, "Harold and his Amazing Pet Seed." I believe that is the title, anyway.

Those could amount to 4 Treasures sets; perfect for one more wave. While there is much more I'd like to see on DVD, the Legacy Collection could take up the rest, or we could start seeing a line specifically devoted to the anthology series, and one specifically devoted to the Mickey Mouse Club, etc... I definitely would like to see the rest of the MMC serials and plenty of other stuff, definitely more of the MMC, and I definitely NEED all the Ludwig Von Drake stuff and the Moby Duck program. One last thing. They really need to cook up a format for releasing the later stuff, like all the TV gems from the 80s and 90s, both from the Disney Channel and the anthology series.

[Big Disney Fan]

One last thing. They really need to cook up a format for releasing the later stuff, like all the TV gems from the 80s and 90s, both from the Disney Channel and the anthology series.

How about some filler scenes of the Disney Channel in the 1980s. I know it will probably never happen, but I'm trying to collect vintage Disney Channel footage, from when the logo was the Mickey head in the striped TV screen.

[slave2moonlight]

One last thing. They really need to cook up a format for releasing the later stuff, like all the TV gems from the 80s and 90s, both from the Disney Channel and the anthology series.

How about some filler scenes of the Disney Channel in the 1980s. I know it will probably never happen, but I'm trying to collect vintage Disney Channel footage, from when the logo was the Mickey head in the striped TV screen.

I'm not sure what you mean by "filler scenes," but I certainly would like to see some sort of "Classic Disney Channel" DVD series for things created specifically for the channel, such as their holiday programs. If you mean the bumpers and stuff like that, such a DVD collection might be a fitting place to use them as extras. I wouldn't expect any of this stuff though, sadly.

[Big Disney Fan]

How about some filler scenes of the Disney Channel in the 1980s. I know it will probably never happen, but I'm trying to collect vintage Disney Channel footage, from when the logo was the Mickey head in the striped TV screen.

I'm not sure what you mean by "filler scenes," but I certainly would like to see some sort of "Classic Disney Channel" DVD series for things created specifically for the channel, such as their holiday programs. If you mean the bumbers and stuff like that, such a DVD collection might be a fitting place to use them as extras. I wouldn't expect any of this stuff though, sadly.

The bumpers and such, that's what I'm talking about. And yeah, they probably will never ever happen. The only way we could ever see them again is with a time machine.

[slave2moonlight]

Ha, sorry about writing Bumbers instead of Bumpers. I've corrected it. Anyway, some of those have actually turned up on Youtube.com, if you want to check for them there.

I don't think I mentioned something else that I would love to see get some attention on DVD: The Walt Disney World Florida theme parks! Because there are 4 parks over there (plus the water parks, but I've never been), Florida is my preferred Disney destination. I LOVE those parks, especially back in their prime, in the mid/late 80s through early 90s. There's so much they could put into a DVD set on WDW. I'd love to get the EPCOT Center opening celebration with Danny Kaye and Drew Barrymore! And The Muppets At Walt Disney World, the Mouseketeers at Walt Disney World, Disney World Around the Seasons, and so on. It'd be cool if they gave us the program from the old Animation attraction at Disney MGM Studios too, with Robin Williams as a new Lost Boy! Even past souvenir videos sold in the parks would make a nice DVD set to see how the parks changed over the years!

And a particular episode of the anthology show I would love to have on DVD is Disneyland Showtime. I THINK that was the title. The one with the Osmonds and Kurt Russell. That one is so great!

[Big Disney Fan]

Ha, sorry about writing Bumbers instead of Bumpers. I've corrected it. Anyway, some of those have actually turned up on Youtube.com, if you want to check for them there.

Can you provide links to them?

[thatartguy]

The bumpers and such, that's what I'm talking about. And yeah, they probably will never ever happen. The only way we could ever see them again is with a time machine.

I downloaded some from alt.binaries.multimedia.disney a few months back. Hopefully, I still have them.

[ohmahaaha]

Hey folks ... and correct me if I'm wrong, anyone out there ... but I could have sworn that I read back at the beginning of 2005 an interview with Leonard Maltin where Leonard said that he had gotten a "green light" for 4 more years of Walt Disney Treasures.

Now, perhaps low sales would change the reality of that, but to me that would mean that perhaps there was at least a plan of what the contents of the next 2 waves would be ... right? Does anyone else remember the interview I'm talking about?

[2099net]

I really don't see what the issue is regarding "sales". After all, with there limited numbers, Disney is effectively setting a cap on the sales.

And regarding this year's lower than normal print runs, isn't that, to a great extent Disney's fault? Promotion of the Treasures line is appalling. On the other hand, a film like Pirates of the Carribbean 2 which everyone

1] Knows
2] Knows will be coming out roundabout the holidays
3] Gets lots of promotional support from third-party licencees

gets shedloads of publicity, adverts, trailers and sneak-peaks. It's not as if selling POTC is a hard sell for Disney. Meanwhile, out of 250million+ DVD players in the US, Disney can't sell more than 65,000 sets of Pluto cartoons? It boggles my mind really, and it just shows Disney aren't behind the releases.

And then there's the botch job they've made selling the Treasures sets overseas. In that they don't seem to be. Surely a little more promotion in Europe and Japan and they could double their US sales.

And finally witness the introduction of the Legacy sets, when the content would be ideal for the Treasures and provide the series with a healthy extra 2 or 3 years.

[DD]

As a Goofy fan, I would really like to see the Freeway shorts as well as the short Crazy with the heat as well as any other Goofy related material beeing released on future Disney Treasures DVD´s.

[Big Disney Fan]

As a Goofy fan, I would really like to see the Freeway shorts as well as the short Crazy with the heat as well as any other Goofy related material beeing released on future Disney Treasures DVD´s.

Crazy With the Heat will be released on the third installment of The Chronological Donald, which was the case with all other D&G shorts. If you were to look at any official Disney cartoon short filmographies, and by that I mean official character filmographies, you would notice that not one D&G short is shown on Goofy's official filmography; instead, they're placed only on Donald's. It was also the same with the trio shorts, which were put only on Mickey's official filmography.

As for the freeway shorts, no comment...

[DD]

As a Goofy fan, I would really like to see the Freeway shorts as well as the short Crazy with the heat as well as any other Goofy related material beeing released on future Disney Treasures DVD´s.

Crazy With the Heat will be released on the third installment of The Chronological Donald, which was the case with all other D&G shorts. If you were to look at any official Disney cartoon short filmographies, and by that I mean official character filmographies, you would notice that not one D&G short is shown on Goofy's official filmography; instead, they're placed only on Donald's. It was also the same with the trio shorts, which were put only on Mickey's official filmography.

As for the freeway shorts, no comment...

Yes, I know that Crazy with the heat is categorized as a Donald short ,and that it will be available on the third Chronological Donald DVD .But thank you for the info anyway !

[blackcauldron85]

I only own the Behind the Scenes of the Disney Studios and the Wartime Treasures sets. I would love to own all of the other animated sets (Mickey, Donald, Goofy, Pluto, etc.), and the Rarities, and the Silly Symphonies, and the Tomorrowland one, and the Your Host, Walt Disney one. But I don't have enough money to. I do collect (and have all of) the Cartoon Classics DVDs (there are 12 right now), which have some classic cartoons on them (duh!). I haven't paid more than about $7 for a DVD in that set, compared to $24.99 and up for the Treasures.

I'm very excited for the Legacy Collection. Mostly for "Destino". I've done a few reports on it over the years, and everyone has been fascinated with it that I've presented it to. I really hope that they release that set really soon.

[Lars Vermundsberget]

But I don't have enough money to. I do collect (and have all of) the Cartoon Classics DVDs (there are 12 right now), which have some classic cartoons on them (duh!). I haven't paid more than about $7 for a DVD in that set, compared to $24.99 and up for the Treasures.

That makes less than one dollar per cartoon in most cases - still not bad!