Peter Pan & Jungle Book SE DVD Coming + Trailers

[lighthousemike]

[it's a shame they couldn't remove Prince Eric's man-boob though

You mean his shoulder?

And I just wanted to note, that for what I believe is the first time, lighthousemike has united us in a way like never before. Even the news that Disney was going to start 2-D animation again didn't gather this much good feeling and number of members. This thread has expanded to 11 pages in just a few days, and not a single argument, insult, or flame. Everyone seems to agree that all the previews look cool, and is excited about something. Never have I felt more unity in UD. I love UD and its members. I love you guys!

Thanks lighthousemike for uniting us!

You guys are very welcome.
I'm just so happy these days i can share the excitement with other Disney fan who can appreciate this news as much as i do.
Back when i was a kid and i rushed home with a new Disney VHS i didn't know anyone who was into Disney as much ad i was, so when i found out awesome news like this there was no one to share it with...lol i can imagine calling one of my friends and scream "Peter Pan is the next PE DVD not 101 D." they probably would say "yes so..lol"
so these days its so much fun to have a place to share this with others just like me.

PS
i should always preview the Disney DVDs here every time i get a new one now that i know you all love it as much as i do.
I should be getting The Fox and The Hound DVD in a few days.
Love you all
and one more thing the "making of TLM" was the best Documentary Disney produced since the spacial features on the Snow White PE DVD. they reveal things I've never knew like the song "Part of your world" was almost cut form the film by the (then) new Disney Chairman !????! can you imagine the movie without it.

This DVD rocks!!!

[xxhplinkxx]

the song "Part of your world" was almost cut from the film

BLASPHEMY!!!

[Barty]

No original theatrical 5.1 audio mix? It's the first platinum to let that out... Are you 100% sure? The list of the technical aspects on the Little Mermaid web site (http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/anima ... /home.html) says that it HAS..
Might have to buy the limited edition dvd now, being such an audio fanatic

[lighthousemike]

No original theatrical 5.1 audio mix? It's the first platinum to let that out... Are you 100% sure? The list of the technical aspects on the Little Mermaid web site (http://disney.go.com/disneyvideos/anima ... /home.html) says that it HAS..
Might have to buy the limited edition dvd now, being such an audio fanatic

Well they lied!!!
look at the link you gave me off of Disney's own site and below is a screen shot of the audio options from the dvd - very clear there are no 2 English tracks just a 2nd one in English wich is the commentary:

[Barty]

Thanks a lot lighthousemike, but now I'm gonna order the limited edition... too bad

[lighthousemike]

Thanks a lot lighthousemike, but now I'm gonna order the limited edition... too bad

You really shouldn't order the LE DVD . the picture is sooooooo bad. almost as bad as Pocahontas was on its LE. save your money!!!

[Barty]

Yea, but I then could just produce my own (think "superbit") dvd with the same video as the Platinum Edition (100% identical video encoding), and with BOTH the original theatrical 5.1 mix, as well as the new DEHT mix I like to compare the both and choose a different mix for different playback methods..

[Disney Live On]

[b]The Sound On Mermaid: [/b]Guys not to sound rude or anything but who cares about the audio? As long as we have one strong, good sounding audio track who really cares... I never listen to any of the other audio tracks on my DVDs besides the default one (so like on Lion King I listen to the original restored soundtrack and for Aladdin I listed to the Disney Enchanced One-because they are the ones set on the DVD). Let's not let one missing sound track spoil our viweing pleasure of The Little Mermaid- the restoration is beautiful... and I'll be happy just to finally have it on dvd.

[b]The Little Mermaid III:[/b] I just had a sudden chill down my spine when I read someones thoughts on Mermaid 3. If Ariel is telling Melody about her life before meeting Eric what's to stop her from telling 3 seperate stories like what happened in Beauty and the Beast: Belle's magical world and Cinderella II. I know that they were movies made from rejected TV show episodes but now it kinda looks like it's becoming a trend for each Disney Princess to have one movie that is split into three stories (even Jane had one with Tarzan and Jane) and in Australia they released Jasmine's Enchanted Tales (three stories from the Aladdin series). What if this time they are actually making a movie split into three seperate storylines on purpose and the preview of the song that's on the Platium Edition is just one song from one of the three stories. I pray this isn't so and that Ariel telling Melody her story is actaully just a link to flash back to before number 1 (the original movie) for one BIG individual story. There is only one piece of evidence that shows that this is a likelyhood and that is the inclusion of Sally Field in the movie cast. I doubt she would associate herself with a film that is not really a film but three mini stories (for her I doubt she'd see it worth her time).

What are everyones thoughts on this?

PS: Thanks for posting the screencaps- your the best!!!

[jeremy88]

My Thoughsts on TLM 3:

Well actually I was hoping that TLM 3 wouldnt have Melody...I mean I don't have a problem with her but I wouldnt wanna see her again...I like The young, non parent Ariel where she's the star of the film..but considering that was Melody's locket( and it defiantly is because you can see her name on it if you pause it and its the same scene from TLM 2) that floated to the bottom of the water..surely Melodys in it(unfortunatly). and ummm I think its just one full blown movie and not seperate stories.. From what I've seen on the musical sneek peek Ariel looks a lot younger then the first film(shorter hair, no lip stick, more youthful attitude oh and Flonders young again too) im guessing she's like 14 or 15 since shes 16 in the first movie. I wanna see Ursula again, so hopefully Ursula will reprise her role. But Anyway I dunno what the movie is about at all so I dunno, thats just my guess.

[Barty]

Disney Live On, the appreciaton of the original theatrical audio mix (or the availability of different audio mixes on dvds in general) changes from person to person of course. When you are not interested in that, someone elese might be, like me... - Everyone is different, and I could try to explain you why I would have appreciated the inclusion of the original mix, but everyone is different and I don't mind you being happy with just the DEHT mix

Still, you won't see me stating that this dvd release is a bad release, it seems to be wonderfull! Good and restored video quality (from the first voices that have the dvd) really is one of the most important things for me. Nice extra's are loved too!

And fortunately in this case I can just buy the old Limited Edition and create the film with the choice of the two audio tracks myself, so it's not too much of a dissapointment

Take care!

[Pyoko]

No original mix? Again? What are they thinking, and on a Platinum Edition no less... it's not like it takes a lot of effort or space to add one additional audio track. I'm cool with it this time as the original was 5.1 as well so the difference is probably not going to be huge, but if this was Bambi or Snow White with the original track being mono I'd be seriously annoyed.

[Disney Live On]

[b]The Sound:[/b] I do appreciate your opinion about the sound mixes... thanks for understanding my point of view though.

As for [b]Mermaid 3 [/b]I just downloaded the musical sequence...
To see Ariel put her hands up, giggle and then swim out of frame with Flounder grabbing her tale gave me a sudden sensation of joy. Watch in the original film when Ariel is getting all excited about seeing Eric again and saying: 'I'll swim up to his castle... then flounder will splash around to get his attention', and you'll see why.

It was totally Ariel! The Ariel we all love!

Even if it is split into three parts, although now having actually found and watched those teasers for the film I doubt it will be, I know now I will absolutely love this film no matter what's in it!

Ariel is back the way we love her...
The One and only Little Mermaid.



(PS: for those who don't know the new video clips have been added under the first set of pictures on the first page of this form)

[Jules]

the song "Part of your world" was almost cut from the film

BLASPHEMY!!!

If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading that it was Michael Eisner that wanted it cut because he thought it was "too boring". Menken and Ashman however, pleaded him to leave it there, and he relented, and decided to leave it.

[Dottie]

Great men, we gotta thank them for this. Cut one of the best Disney songs ever!!?? TLM wouldhave never had this amazing success without the song.

[Barty]

Pyoko, I'd like to react on the thing you said about the new DEHT mix probably being not so different from the original 5.1 mix.
Not because I want to get the acknowledgement or something, but because I'm interested in these kind of things, and can't help wishing to react to it.

The easiest example; If you look at the Aladdin PE dvd, and compare the new 5.1 DEHT mix with the original Theatrical 5.1 mix, you can see that these mixes often not so very similar. If you listen to the center channel (usually all the dialogue among other things), you can hear that the voices on the DEHT mix are more solid state than the 'tube like' sound of them on the Theatrical mix (in normal language, the voices come across more round and a lot more natural on the Theatrical mix). Also, the singing voice in all songs is copied to the RL and RR channels, which makes for an even stranger and uglier sound. Once you hear this difference, you can't help but enjoying the Theatrical mix a lot more than the unnatural and forced DEHT mix.

[xxhplinkxx]

If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading that it was Michael Eisner that wanted it cut because he thought it was "too boring". Menken and Ashman however, pleaded him to leave it there, and he relented, and decided to leave it.

How on earth is this song boring?

[Escapay]

If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading that it was Michael Eisner that wanted it cut because he thought it was "too boring". Menken and Ashman however, pleaded him to leave it there, and he relented, and decided to leave it.

How on earth is this song boring?

Well...while it describes Ariel's desire to live among humans, other scenes already show it (her finding the fork and pipe, non-singing scenes in her cave of stuff, etc.), and a song could just be superfluous to the story. What was told in 5 minutes of a song could have just as easily (and probably cheaper too) have been done in a couple minutes of dialogue and be just as effective.

Escapay

[Disney's Divinity]

Whoever said that probably thought the song didn't further the plot much (like Kiss the Girl and Poor Unfortunate Souls did), but they clearly missed the point. The song's purpose was for the viewer to really understand Ariel's feelings about the human world and nothing else really.

EDIT: Oops. Someone posted right before me saying the same thing. But I think a song gets the point across better than any dialogue can. Plus, it's the only song Ariel actually gets to sing (and proves why the merfolk say she has the loveliest voice in the sea).

[Pyoko]

Barty, you're probably right about the DEHT mixes. I haven't really studied them on the newer films like Aladdin and TLK, I only remember them being slightly louder and with added bass. My point was just that since the orignal tracks were 5.1 they at least have something to work with and they probably have a chance to still make it sound decent. However trying to squeeze six channels out of one can not end in any other way than a mess, as evidenced by the muddy and distracting 5.1 track on Bambi.

[so this is love]

I can't wait for cinderella III, I think it will be very dramatic just like Walt would have wanted it. I mean it has a convincing premise. I hope that it will better than "Dreams Come". I love the end part of the trailer for III, but I wish Disney would have show more animation though. Hopely it will be more dramatic to bring more of grown up aduience to replace the low expecations of II. But util than I will have " What if on my mind" until the movie come out it should be good harah for the cinderella triology.