Childhood Movies Revisited - Expectations Lacking

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ichabod wrote:Being distributed by Diseny in North America, a Disney movie does not make!

I love FotN, but it ain't Disney!

Now you've had your final warning!
If Disney merely distributed it and didn't produce it, who did? IMDb lists Buena Vista as a production company for the film as well as a distributor. :?
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Lazario wrote:I hope more parents protest the release of this movie, it's just TOO gross. It should be banned somehow.
Nah, Why ban it, You know there are people out there that will purchase it. I actually never saw it.. I'll consider a blind purchase.. Please, Don't tell me your anti-gross! :o
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I retracted my "hate" comment, instead I just don't connect to it as I did as a kid.. David Bowie's acting is well.. terrible (Not that he's acclaimed for his acting).. I just couldn't get into it like I did as a kid.. The magic is not there at all..
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Disneykid wrote:
ichabod wrote:Being distributed by Diseny in North America, a Disney movie does not make!

I love FotN, but it ain't Disney!

Now you've had your final warning!
If Disney merely distributed it and didn't produce it, who did? IMDb lists Buena Vista as a production company for the film as well as a distributor. :?
Yeah but If Diseny/Buena Vista had anything to do with this movie how come it's not Disney any where else in the world.

maybe it's just a mistake on their part because they are used to seeing the Disney label on it in North America. If Disney made it, it would be Disney everywhere wouldn't it!

It's just like Valiant, Around the World in 80 Days, The brave Little Toaster, Spirited away etc.

they have the Disney logo on the in the US becasue Disney have the distribution rights, but that does not make it a Disney film.

Valiant etc are only labelled Disney in North America because disney bought the rights.

I mean if Disney bought the rights to The Wizard of Oz tomorrow, would that make it a Disney film?
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Disneykid wrote:
ichabod wrote:Being distributed by Diseny in North America, a Disney movie does not make!

I love FotN, but it ain't Disney!

Now you've had your final warning!
If Disney merely distributed it and didn't produce it, who did? IMDb lists Buena Vista as a production company for the film as well as a distributor. :?
Flight of the Navigator is a Disney FIlm, There are 4 Production Companies listed on the Film including Disney and I believe that Disney owns the other 3 or had them produce it. It is no different than a Pixar movie where They are still Disney Films. Disney also started a few companies so they can make more adult orientated films in the 80's. There most famous one would be Touchstone Pictures
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But it is different from Pixar's films.

Take Finding Nemo for example. Everywhere you go in the world it has the Disney Name on it! From The USA, Germany, Norway, Australia, Japan, Brasil, iceland etc.

Everywhere you go Fn is Disney, because Disney were a part of the production!

However with Flight of the Navigator the film is only Disney in North America because Disney BOUGHT the film. Everywhere else the film is owned by different people, and neither the dvd case, the opening credits nothing has the Disney name on.

Now if This is a Disney film how come outside NA it is not Disney?

If a Disney film IS a Disney film, it is a Disney film all over the world.
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Usually it's the other way around for me. The movies I didn't like as a kid I like now and rarely do I see a movie I can't stand now that I loved as a kid although there are some movies that I loved as a kid and now I still enjoy them but I may see some flaws in the movie. Natural. :)

An example of a movie I appreciate more now is 'The Sword in the Stone'. I loved movies like that growing up (the 80's were a pretty big fantasy decade it seemed) but I didn't enjoy that movie too much. Now I do, a lot.

'Labyrinth' is still enjoyable for me but growing up it wasn't one of my favourites. I was more interested in seeing 'Willow', 'Legend', 'The Neverending Story', 'The Dark Crystal' or 'The Princess Bride'.

'Flight of the Navigator' is a movie I'm currently searching for frantically so I can buy it for my friend. Her birthday party came and went but I had no money at the time so I'm searching out 'Flight of the Navigator' and 'Radio Flyer' for her. FotN is a movie I haven't seen in 15 years! The last time I remember watching it was during March Break in either 1989 or 1990. I had an afternoon double bill. The other movie was 'Mac and Me'. :) (I do have a great memory at times) :)
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From what I know, which isn't very much... 'Flight of the Navigator' IS a Disney film but not just a Disney film as others have mentioned. Disney was one of a few production companies and a distributor in North America.

In UK I think the movie is on DVD from Cinema Club so that would mean Disney doesn't release it there obviously. I really don't know why there would be no references at all to Disney though. I'm sure you would see Walt Disney Pictures somewhere in those credits.

It's Disney but not just Disney. The rights everywhere else others bought it probably because of some 80's deal and the production companies back then which I believe are all history now. Movie studios do all sorts of weird stuff. :) (who knows why Disney wouldn't try and get the rights to release it oversees as well though)
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It just like Valiant that was not made by Disney, neither did Disney have anything to do with it. They have bought the rights to it and stuck the Disney label on it in North America. Yet everyone in North America will still consider it a Disney movie even though it isn't.

Now if Disney had anything to do with FotN how come there is not a trace of the Disney name anywhere in the credits?

It's like James and the Giant Peach I have both the US and the UK dvds. The US one has Disney on the opening and ending credits because it is from the US where Disney distributed it, but on the UK copy, not even a glimpse of the Disney name!

Trust i watched the whole thing in slo mo, freeze framing every shot and read every line about 2 years ago.

I think IMDB simply see the Disney distribution name and therefore assumed that Disney made it. I mean Come on! For some mad reason we all seem to be accepting IMDB as a trustworthy source of information here! ;)
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I can't argue since I haven't seen the movie in years but I'll go with you on your word because I'm sure you know what youa re talking about. You've scoured the credits pretty well by the sounds of it.
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orestes. wrote:You've scoured the credits pretty well by the sounds of it.
Well yeah, I originally thought it was Disney because this site along with others lists it as so, becasue they're lists are all comprised of filmd with the Disney name on them in the US.

I was shocked to see the DVD in the UK without the Disney logo on it a few years ago, so that's why I bought it and scoured it.

Ever since then I become to know all the faux Disney films! ;)

Although all the aside, It is still a brilliant movie!
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Anyone know why James and the Giant Peach isn't a Disney movie in the UK, but is everywhere else in Europe, and still has the "Walt Disney Pictures Presents" words at the start of the film and has featured in the Disney Store at one point or another?
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Wonderlicious wrote:Anyone know why James and the Giant Peach isn't a Disney movie in the UK, but is everywhere else in Europe, and still has the "Walt Disney Pictures Presents" words at the start of the film and has featured in the Disney Store at one point or another?
My UK copy does not have WD at the start mine has "Pathe", unless they got sloppy and used the US print.

Also Warner has the right to it, that is why you can get it in those Anastasia/Iron Giant triple packs!

And I can't imagine why it would ever be in the Disney store! :?
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Lazario wrote:
I hope more parents protest the release of this movie, it's just TOO gross. It should be banned somehow.
It's the Garbage Pail Kids...Have you seen the cards? Their gross. It's meant to be gross. I see worse Renn & Stimpy and half those Cartoon Network shows.

I remember watching Ringing Bell and Unico as a kid. When I was older and Ebay became my new addiction, I was able to revist them. I actually hate the first Unico movie now, but the second Unico, I like it even better now then when I was a kid. It's a movie that HAD to be done while the animators were on LSD and is hysterical to watch.
Ringing Bell is like that too. Funny to watch now, but as a kid, I still liked it. But I like it more now :D

Dot and the Kangaroo was a slight disappointment when I finally saw it again, but I apprieciatated Dot and the Whale more now then when I was a kid.
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When I was younger,

I used to simply love, the movie Watership Down.

I saw it a few years ago, and I can't stand it anymore.

I also used to love the movie It's Always Fair Weather with Gene Kelly, Cyd Charisse. Now I hate it lol.
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Watership Down was a great book!! (haven't seen the movie though :) )


When I was younger I used to LOVE Wild Hearts Can't Be Broken and the Watcher in the Woods. After revisiting both recently, I still LOVE them. I now have a better and different appreciation for Watcher in the Woods but still feel the exact same way for Wild Hearts :D
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Here is the cover for James and the Giant peach and it says Disney

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memnv wrote:Here is the cover for James and the Giant peach and it says Disney
No one is denying that the US DVD says Disney, because Disney owns the rights to it in North America.

But here is the UK cover

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Disney is nowehere in site, because Disney didn't buy the distribution rights for the UK.
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Siren wrote:I remember watching Ringing Bell and Unico as a kid. When I was older and Ebay became my new addiction, I was able to revist them. I actually hate the first Unico movie now, but the second Unico, I like it even better now then when I was a kid. It's a movie that HAD to be done while the animators were on LSD and is hysterical to watch.
Get out of town, I love Unico! I saw both of them when I was a kid too. My parents taped them off of HBO. I would still have the tape, no I still do, but it won't play most of the time. It's in horribly bad shape.
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What exactly was "Garbage Pail Kids"?

Anyways, on the topic of childhood movies that lose their luster...

As a kid, we used to always borrow "E.T." and "Flight of the Navigator" from our cousin, and to this day, "E.T." is still as good then as it is now, but I agree with FOTN, it's a little less...entertaining than it was for me 15 years ago.

Mary Poppins, The Sound of Music, The Ten Commandments...granted, I doubt many kids would watch these as religiously as I did when I was young, but they still hold up very very well now.

Sesame Street: Follow that Bird. Definitely a children's movie. I tried to watch it a summer ago...I think I fell asleep. But every so often, I pop the tape in and watch a few choice segments.

DAC's hold up very well through the years. I was watching Peter Pan earlier today, and found myself still enchanted by it. One TV over, someone was watching Hunchback of Notre Dame, and I'd glance every so often and I noticed that while the animation was simpler for Peter Pan, it looked more lifelike (at least to me).

I guess it's more of a comfort zone for some movies than for others. To this day, whenever I watch Aliens, I always remember how terrified I was when I first watched it (I think I was six or seven). But some movies are suddenly clunkers when we revisit them, like the aforementioned Flight of the Navigator, and even a classic like Bambi. Another movie I loved as a kid but find rather dull today would have to be the cartoon version of The Lion, The Witch, and the Wardrobe.

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Lazario>LOL, I have both Unico's on VHS tape that I bought on Ebay. I just ordered the DVDs (bootleg of course :lol:)

Garbage Pail Kids were a spoof of Cabbage Patch Kids. Each Garbage Pail Kid had a certain disgusting trait. They use to sell trading cards and they came with a stick of gum. I use to have ALL the cards. Those and ALF, and then right before I moved to Florida, I got rid of them. :oops:
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