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Ric-Mx wrote:Well, the grain still doesn't make any sense. Just compare Bambi to Snow White, wich is around 5 yrs older. SW shows less than half of the grain that Bambi shows.
Hmm maybe its your TV? because on my tv wich is only a year old, it looks superb. And it looks even better on our big screen downstairs, stretched or not stretched.
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I use to watch my dvd's on a 29" LG flat screen and a 14" LCD monitor, both almost brand new.

Here we go again... BAMBI LOOKS TERRIFIC!!! but I was dissapointed because I was expecting the same level of surprise that I got with Snow White almost 4 years ago!

Yet again, it's maybe because as time goes by and I've learned what technology is able to do I might have become "pickier" for this stuff.
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Ric-Mx wrote:Well, the grain still doesn't make any sense. Just compare Bambi to Snow White, wich is around 5 yrs older. SW shows less than half of the grain that Bambi shows.

Anyway thnks to Deathie Mouse and 2099net for giving specs about cleaning process and grain in old movies.

My point was that the video transfer of Snow White, Alice, and Sleeping Beauty were breathtaking, and Bambi is not. It doesn't mean that it's a bad tranfer, I mean it's really good.

But as I learned from the other topic I posted recently (the gay issue) many people here tend to think that if you say "It is not white" is the same as saying "It is black" whitout giving any chance for any shade of gray... :P

Just like here I said "It was not as good as..." many people react like "How does he dare to say it is a bad transfer!!!" :P LOL
How true. I, too, was surprised at the amount of grain certain aspects of the film had. For example, a scene with Bambi and his mother, laying in the forest. I'm not sure exactly at what point in the movie it happens, but you can see an excessive amount of "grain" in the color of Bambi and his mother. Now, I am assuming it is not "grain", but rather elements of the medium which the characters were "painted" on. I don't know how animation is done, but hopefully someone understands what I am saying. I did not notice any of this type of "grain" in Snow White, so it is a bit surprising to see it in Bambi. However, overall, the film looks great. I haven't seen it since I was 6 years old, or so, and I am now 30, so I have no memory of how the film looked on VHS.

As far as the gay issue you are referring to, I have no idea what you posted. However, there is nothing wrong with someone being gay, straight, or otherwise. If people have a problem with someone's orientation, then that is their problem.
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Go check the topic called "Bambi and friends relationships" and you'll see what i'm talking about!
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saving107 I understand better now, I must have read your first post in a hurry. Did you get your Thumper plush toy ? I was not sure from your post, I thought you had to mail order it, are local best buy as far as I can remember did not have a Thumper Toy.
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I'm new and have a question and you guys/girls look like the ones who might be able to help me. Why in the world is the Bambi DVD not also in widescreen? I am very disappointed by the full screen. :x
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Hi wrshrr! Welcome to the forum! :wave:

Why is Bambi not in widescreen? The answer is simple: cus it was not photographed in widescreen. When Bambi was made, movies were shot in a format called Academy sound, in which the image on the negative and projection was 0.600" x 0.825" (15.25mm x 21mm) and that image is only 1.375 wide. So the 4:3 Full Screen DVD is a very good representation of that image. It's supposed to be that way :D You're getting the correct image.

If it was presented in (false) widescreen the top and bottom of the composed image would have to be cut off


Except for a very few cases, Silent films (aprrox 18mm x 24mm, 1.33 wide) and sound films (Academy) made up to around the mid '50's when Hollywood changed into widescreen productions to attract the public away from TV, are all NON widescreen.


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MadonnasManOne wrote:
Ric-Mx wrote:Well, the grain still doesn't make any sense. Just compare Bambi to Snow White, wich is around 5 yrs older. SW shows less than half of the grain that Bambi shows.

Anyway thnks to Deathie Mouse and 2099net for giving specs about cleaning process and grain in old movies.

My point was that the video transfer of Snow White, Alice, and Sleeping Beauty were breathtaking, and Bambi is not. It doesn't mean that it's a bad tranfer, I mean it's really good.

But as I learned from the other topic I posted recently (the gay issue) many people here tend to think that if you say "It is not white" is the same as saying "It is black" whitout giving any chance for any shade of gray... :P

Just like here I said "It was not as good as..." many people react like "How does he dare to say it is a bad transfer!!!" :P LOL
How true. I, too, was surprised at the amount of grain certain aspects of the film had. For example, a scene with Bambi and his mother, laying in the forest. I'm not sure exactly at what point in the movie it happens, but you can see an excessive amount of "grain" in the color of Bambi and his mother. Now, I am assuming it is not "grain", but rather elements of the medium which the characters were "painted" on. I don't know how animation is done, but hopefully someone understands what I am saying. I did not notice any of this type of "grain" in Snow White, so it is a bit surprising to see it in Bambi. However, overall, the film looks great. I haven't seen it since I was 6 years old, or so, and I am now 30, so I have no memory of how the film looked on VHS.

As far as the gay issue you are referring to, I have no idea what you posted. However, there is nothing wrong with someone being gay, straight, or otherwise. If people have a problem with someone's orientation, then that is their problem.
I noticed that scene too, with Bambi and the mother. It was kind of weird going from complete perfection to some random scenes with that kind of grain.

Oh, well. Overall it was terrific.
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deathie mouse wrote:Hi wrshrr! Welcome to the forum! :wave:

Why is Bambi not in widescreen? The answer is simple: cus it was not photographed in widescreen. When Bambi was made, movies were shot in a format called Academy sound, in which the image on the negative and projection was 0.600" x 0.825" (15.25mm x 21mm) and that image is only 1.375 wide. So the 4:3 Full Screen DVD is a very good representation of that image. It's supposed to be that way :D You're getting the correct image.

If it was presented in (false) widescreen the top and bottom of the composed image would have to be cut off


Except for a very few cases, Silent films (aprrox 18mm x 24mm, 1.33 wide) and sound films (Academy) made up to around the mid '50's when Hollywood changed into widescreen productions to attract the public away from TV, are all NON widescreen.


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Thanks for the answer. :)
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Flower's Friend wrote:saving107 I understand better now, I must have read your first post in a hurry. Did you get your Thumper plush toy ? I was not sure from your post, I thought you had to mail order it, are local best buy as far as I can remember did not have a Thumper Toy.
I did get the Thumper plush, they had all the Thumper plush all in a box in the middle of the store with a big sign saying "Free" and in very small letters "with the purches of Bambi on DVD". that was miss leading and some people actually took Thumpers without buying the movie, just some cds, and no one told them anything. I wanted 2 plushes but i was affraid to get 2, so i got just the one, i am fine with that.
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saving107 wrote:I did get the Thumper plush, they had all the Thumper plush all in a box in the middle of the store with a big sign saying "Free" and in very small letters "with the purches of Bambi on DVD". that was miss leading and some people actually took Thumpers without buying the movie, just some cds, and no one told them anything. I wanted 2 plushes but i was affraid to get 2, so i got just the one, i am fine with that.
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Ciaobelli wrote:
MadonnasManOne wrote: I, too, was surprised at the amount of grain certain aspects of the film had. For example, a scene with Bambi and his mother, laying in the forest. I'm not sure exactly at what point in the movie it happens, but you can see an excessive amount of "grain" in the color of Bambi and his mother. Now, I am assuming it is not "grain", but rather elements of the medium which the characters were "painted" on. I don't know how animation is done, but hopefully someone understands what I am saying. I did not notice any of this type of "grain" in Snow White, so it is a bit surprising to see it in Bambi.

I noticed that scene too, with Bambi and the mother. It was kind of weird going from complete perfection to some random scenes with that kind of grain.
Oh, well. Overall it was terrific.
I think the "graininess" in those particular scenes have something to do with the multiplane camera.......if you noticed during the opening sequence, the farther an object appears to be, the more pronounced the "grain".....same with the shots of Bambi and his mother when they're in the thicket...the animated characters were on what would be considered the fifth level of the multiplane apparatus so that you'd have the illusion of depth, making it look to the viewer that you were indeed looking into a thicket. You see this happening a few times..as said, during our introduction to Bambi at his birth, during the final scenes of "April Showers" and I think one other time....I have to give the movie another once over to remember.Oh yeah, again at the very beginning when you see Friend Owl flying thru the forest as he goes in between the trees to his roost..you can really notice the grain quite well there.
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I kinda hope I get that Thumper Plush toy from Fye.com, they are shipping a plush toy and I allready got the Flower and Bambi one so I hope its not just like one of those. I can never get too much of Flower, but I just hope if its Flower that it's a little different :)
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I have a question about that one winter game with the snow flakes matching the flakes. It seems as if my remote does not always work on that game because when I press the arrows it does not always move, but sometimes it does. My Dvd remotes works perfect on all the other features so it must just be the way the game is, but I am not sure.

I just can't seem to get past that game has anyone else played that game, I can't even get past level one ? * Blushes *
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^^^^

I have seen Bambi 3 times this week already, i have not even glanced at the special features, no time.
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I'm on my 10th watchiing this week......I still can't get over how good it looks! The only real beeetch I have about it is the way they replaced the original RKO card at the very beginning of the film with the blue Disney one...they should've left it alone and kept it the same way they had it in the last video release. The way the blue bit is tossed in during the first opening bars of the theme music really makes you aware that something is missing, even if you've never seen the film on video before. To replace the original RKO thing was completely unnecessary.
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maxeythecat wrote:I'm on my 10th watchiing this week......I still can't get over how good it looks! The only real beeetch I have about it is the way they replaced the original RKO card at the very beginning of the film with the blue Disney one...they should've left it alone and kept it the same way they had it in the last video release. The way the blue bit is tossed in during the first opening bars of the theme music really makes you aware that something is missing, even if you've never seen the film on video before. To replace the original RKO thing was completely unnecessary.
I agree with you there. I don't see why they changed it. They could have added that before, kept the RKO card and then continued on normally. It bothers me when they do this with their animated shorts too but then again it bothers me with any movie or television show when they toss the old logo for the new one.
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Question......is this something that they've only started doing recently? I don't seem to remember seeing this on other releases of their classics.
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Maxey Cat this is actually the first time I have seen Disney do this, or first time I remember. I don't have a problem with the blue logo its kinda cool, but I don't think it should replace part of the movie as it was seen in the cinema. I wish they would have kept the blue thing as something right before the opening credits start. When you press the play button before the movie starts, you see a few things happen like this movie is in THK and Disney Enchanced, but its not part of the movie, I wish that blue logo would have been like that, then the opening credits start and at that time everything is like it was in the Cinema.

I have seen it 15 times so far since March the 1st
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