Pomp and Circumstance originally had Disney royals' children

[pap64]

This segment does sound super silly, but would be hilarious for a House of Mouse episode!

[Semaj]

Speaking of paradoxes, the whole thing that confuses and I find cringingly corny is the delivering of the babies from the storks in this segment. Yes, Dumbo was delievered by a stork in his film, but every subsequent Disney film hints or shows natural childbirth. Jim Dear and Darling in Lady and the Tramp, Pongo and Perdita, and the biggest one came later in the Emperor's New Groove in which we see Chicha pregnant, as well as Rapunzel's parents. So if other adult humans in the Disneyverse have children by sex, how come the princesses reproduce via stork? I guess we're supposed to believe that they're some kind of holy untouched virgins who give birth through immaculate conception?

Maybe there was once a time when even the mere implication of natural childbirth was forbidden, or at least second-guessed. Cartoons have come a long way since the Hays' Code.

[disneyfella]

I actually watched this at Destination D. Dave Bossert and Don Hahn presented it as part of a rare animation panel. They began by explaining that it is silly to think of this now, but it was very seriously considered at the time. The lights went dark and the clip rolled. I was laughing so much in this story reel.

It was apparently Michael Eisner's idea from the get go to have the Pomp and Circumstance piece because he was at his son's graduation ceremony while they were making selections for the Fantasia 2000 film. He came in and said, "guys we HAVE to do this". The idea was pitched and storyboarded and I have to say that it was absolutely hilarious. I don't know if it was trying to be funny, but I was laughing out loud through about 2/3 of the reel.

I actually had the exact same thought, pap64, after the lights went up...'this would make for a great House of Mouse sketch'. Fantasia 2000 it was not

[bradhig]

I would love to see Cinderella 's kids would be the final sequel I want to see. That won't happen to any princess other then Ariel becaue of the princess line. Am I supposed to believe they sleep in heavy dresses like Aurora sleeps in her blue gown with her crown holding a rose every night?

[thelittleursula]

So it's okay for Goofy to have sex but not everybody else ?

I'm sorry but " We can't because it would of shown that Disney characters had sex " is the most childish thing I've heard.

[bradhig]

Was the removal of this scene the result of some backlash after TLM2 came out?

[Super Aurora]

Was the removal of this scene the result of some backlash after TLM2 came out?

No. It was remove because when the disney executives invited the remaining 9 old men to come in and see it, Ward Kimbell remarked (i'm paraphrasing it here) "That's the stupidest fucking idea I ever seen."

After that they decided to scrap it.

[Jules]

I respect Roy Disney very much. I think that generally speaking he was an asset to the studio. However, this is not the first time I've heard of his aversion to in-movie sex references.

In the early 2000s he halted development of a promising WDAS feature called Wildlife, intended mainly for adults (the creators were hoping it'd get released under the Touchstone, rather than Disney banner), simply because it had a gay joke in the script.

Basically, two men were trying to go down a manhole (in the film) and one of them was hesitant, and other said "You mean you never been down a man hole before!?"

I believe Roy was revolted by the joke and ordered production shut down. I think I read this story years ago in an article written by Disney Legend Floyd Norman, who at the time was working on Wildlife.

[qindarka]

I respect Roy Disney very much. I think that generally speaking he was an asset to the studio. However, this is not the first time I've heard of his aversion to in-movie sex references.

In the early 2000s he halted development of a promising WDAS feature called Wildlife, intended mainly for adults (the creators were hoping it'd get released under the Touchstone, rather than Disney banner), simply because it had a gay joke in the script.

Basically, two men were trying to go down a manhole (in the film) and one of them was hesitant, and other said "You mean you never been down a man hole before!?"

I believe Roy was revolted by the joke and ordered production shut down. I think I read this story years ago in an article written by Disney Legend Floyd Norman, who at the time was working on Wildlife.

There are probably loads of details missing here but shutting down production for that? Wouldn't it be easier to just remove the joke?