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Brother BEar will be available in august in France, two editions:

Standard editions:

same as UK

and a PRESTIGE edition with a very beautiful packaging as only buena vista France can do:

it will feature the DVD, an audio CD 4 tracks, and a CD ROM.

the standard is announced for august 25th
whereas the prestige is announced for august 4th! ??

oh and moreover, the THREE MOUSKETEERS is announced for august 4th too.

All I can say is WOW.... that one is beautiful, but then I've heard Brother Bear was highly succesful in France. great disc!

Yeah, it is beautyful indeed, but still, the prestige edition will only have the same 1-disc edition with the wrong aspect ratio of the movie and less the making of featurette. I don't know how "special" this edition can be (I would buy it for the packaging, though ).

Joe Carioca wrote:Yeah, it is beautyful indeed, but still, the prestige edition will only have the same 1-disc edition with the wrong aspect ratio of the movie and less the making of featurette. I don't know how "special" this edition can be (I would buy it for the packaging, though ).

Wrong !
The french sets will feature the movie in its ORIGINAL aspect ratios (contrary to the UK set) and ALL the bonus features of the Region 1 set (just as te UK edition). Plus, a French DTS soundtrack, just as always on the Disney DVDs here.

availabe on August 25th.

I can understand it having the correct, shifting AR, but I think that it's a bit much to ask for all the supplemental content from the US 2 disc set to be on a single disc. Does it really have DTS too? I'm sure the quality of the film's presentation will suffer.

The UK disc- despite some of Disney's (typically crap) early PR and Disney's own DVD shop listing it - misses the "making of" documentary.

In France you have buena vista France that knows how to work very well
it'a a very serious company!!!!!!
Here in Italy buena vista Italy do not know how to make beautiful dvd!!!
All dvds are full of errors and very simple!!!!!!!!
you are a very lucky people!!!!!

2099net wrote:I can understand it having the correct, shifting AR, but I think that it's a bit much to ask for all the supplemental content from the US 2 disc set to be on a single disc. Does it really have DTS too? I'm sure the quality of the film's presentation will suffer.

The UK disc- despite some of Disney's (typically crap) early PR and Disney's own DVD shop listing it - misses the "making of" documentary.

Didn't count them but maybe a featurette is missing indeed... :

- Les commentaires audio
- Les 3 scènes coupées : " Où est Koda ? ", " Confession ", " Muri l'écureuil "
- Les véritables contes et légendes indiennes : " Histoires d'ours "
- Les jeux de Frère des Ours : Le jeu des squelettes, Découvre ton totem avec l'aide de Nanaka
- L'art du bruitage appliqué au film Frère des Ours : " Comment faire du bruit ? "
- Le clip vidéo de la chanson : " Look through my eyes "
- La chanson inédite de Phil Collins : " Fishing song "
- La première version avec les paroles originales de Phil Collins : " Transformation "
- Les galeries d'esquisses et de peintures animées commentées par les artistes
- Le bêtisier de Koda

Plus, DTS and aspect ratio 1.85.
Doesn't speculate if the 2 ratios are included but I guess they will if one of them is and it'w written "original aspect ratio" so...

So it seems you're getting the same version released internationally. The original aspect ratio is 2.35:1 and the making of is 45-minutes long, so no chances it will fit on one disc.
A pity, because the packaging is so carefully done.

The package is nicely done but the content seems like fluff. a 3 track cd? why not the whole soundtrack? a cd-rom? how about more features? I'm happy I have the R1 as it has more content, I can live without the package!

French Mousketeers DVDS

Joe Carioca wrote:So it seems you're getting the same version released internationally. The original aspect ratio is 2.35:1 and the making of is 45-minutes long, so no chances it will fit on one disc.
A pity, because the packaging is so carefully done.

There were TWO original aspect ratios : first in 1:85 and then 2:35 and the source talks about aspect ratios in plural so... we'll see

Which DVD has the Brother Bear trailer? I seem to recall seeing one that was like Beauty and the Beast's Work in Progress and if I recall correctly it looked to me as if they were "letterboxing" the 2.39* image from within the 1.85, the opposite of pan/scaning the 1.85 from the 2.39. (I remember cus I thought "In what ratio is this gonna be in theaters? In Panavision?" as i saw Panavision-like frame lines on the regular widescreen art.) (But in could be totally wrong.) So i would like to see that trailer again but I can't seem to locate it in my collection at the moment.

If i'm right, could the 1.85 discs be kind of open-matted Panavision, just like 4:3 disc of Super-35 movies are?


If they are, the 1.85 version is not so bad, cus it just shows more top and bottom and apart from wasted bit rate, a 16:9 2.39 disc wouldn't be that much different from a cardboarded-down-to-2.39 16:9 1.85 disc..

(if anyone reading this thinks i'm talking crazy you can read some things others and me wrote about open-matte in

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=3994

and

http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... php?t=4061


*2.39 is the correct ratio for films projected from Panavision/anamorphic lense prints since 1994 or thereabouts.

2.35 was "discontinued" around 1971

I forgot to do the obvious thing and check first ultimatedisney's review

So the R1 disc has an alternate 1.66 pan scanned version.

But R2 is gonna get a 1.85?

So, why do i still think that I saw Panavision frame lines marking where to crop to 2.39 inside an 1.85 frame of uncompleted animation?

*note to self: Must stop watching animated RGB images soo much

BVHEUK list Lilo and Stitch as 1.85:1 in all publicity and even on the case, but it's still 1.66:1. I wouldn't take the publicity for the French Brother Bear release that seriously, until somebody actually has seen the disc.