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http://www.savedisney.com/news/features/fe051404.1.asp

The link asks "when did things go wrong? You be the judge" I thought it would be interesting to share. I've been trying to convince the SaveDisney site to start a forum or a chat room or something but I guess they wanna keep things simple

The timeline begins at Walt's death all the way up to yesterday or whatever

Thanks for posting, it's very interesting. Of course we all have to judge for ourselves where we think things went wrong. But overall, I agree with pretty much everything Roy is fighting for. I hope he succeeds some day soon

There are at least three major bad turning points.

1) Death of the original Disneys.
2) Appointment of Ron Miller as President
3) Death of Frank Wells.

#1 brought on a slow decline, until #2 which was more of a train wreck that put Disney into the toilet and brought about Eisner and Wells which was good for about a decade, but the last decade has been slow decent again. I guess we need another train wreck to bring about good change again.

I think we're seeing that train wreck right now. We're kind of in the rubber-necking stage.

-Aaron

JimmyJackJunior wrote:There are at least three major bad turning points.

1) Death of the original Disneys.
2) Appointment of Ron Miller as President
3) Death of Frank Wells.

#1 brought on a slow decline, until #2 which was more of a train wreck that put Disney into the toilet and brought about Eisner and Wells which was good for about a decade, but the last decade has been slow decent again. I guess we need another train wreck to bring about good change again.

Taking into account that things with Eisner WERE going well until the mid 1990s, I think we should appreciate the fact or assume the fact that Frank Wells was the man who kept Eisner on a leash. With his death, Eisner was free to wreak havoc

It's the same with Roy and Walt. When Walt died and Roy took over it all whent down hill.

You need both a "Roy" and a "Walt". Eisner is a great "Roy" but the company does not have any "Walt's" now, sadly.

Here's the sad and great events that I pick.
I feel really sad about the death of Walt Disney the most cause he was the man who bought creativity and imagination to Disneyland for millions of people.
Source: http://www.savedisney.com/news/features/fe051404.1.asp

Thanks for the great timeline toonaspie.

Sad events on the Timeline

Dec 15, 1966 - Walter Elias Disney dies of cancer
Dec 20, 1971 - Roy O. Disney dies
1986 - Disneyland's Adventure Thru Inner Space closed
1986 - Last time Song of the South was released in theatres in North America
1986 - Studio releases its first R rated film (Down and Out in Beverly Hills)
May 1990 - Jim Henson dies, Muppets deal falls through
Mar 1991 - Howard Ashman, lyricist, co-producer of Mermaid, Beauty and the Beast, and Aladdin dies1991 - Slesinger family files suit over Winnie the Pooh video sales
1995 - Disneyland PeopleMover closed1996 - Disneyland's Main Street Electrical Parade "Glows Away Forever", resulting in capacity crowds
Sept 1998 - Disneyland Submarine Voyage closed with no replacement
Sept 2000 - Disneyland Rocket Rods closed after only 2 years of operation
Sept 2001 - Disneyland Country Bear Show closed, even as movie version was in production
Sept 2002 - Disney Channel cancels Vault Disney (last remains of Walt Disney's shows)
Jan 29 - Pixar breaks off talks with Disney regarding partnership
Apr 2 - Last hand drawn animated feature released, Home on the Range


Great events on the Timeline

1980 - Walt Disney Home Video launched
1980 - First animated classic released on video for rental, Dumbo
1982 - TRON, first CGI feature released
1983 - Disney Channel launched
1985 - Pinocchio released on home video (sell-through video program launched)
1989 - The Little Mermaid released, returning Disney to its roots
1987 - Duck Tales, the Movie released, first feature from TV Animation
1987 - Disney Stores Launched
1991 - Beauty and the Beast nominated for Best Picture Oscar
May 1994 - The Return of Jafar, first low-budget sequel from TV Animation
June 1994 - The Lion King released, top grossing animation feature ever
Nov 1995 - Toy Story released, first Pixar film
1996 - Purchase Anaheim Angels Baseball Franchise
1997 - Disneyland's $30m Light Magic replaces Electrical Parade, closes first summer of operation
Apr 1998 - Toon Disney launched

P.S. Who have been on the Disneyland Rocket Rods?
I never been on them.

MMP, I almost entirely agree with the way you sorted them, with 2 exceptions:

-I would have put the Light Parade replacing MEP and then closing in the sad list
-While I like Return of Jafar a lot, I'm not so crazy about the trend it spawned, so I'd have to put it in an in-between list.

-Aaron

karlsen wrote:It's the same with Roy and Walt. When Walt died and Roy took over it all whent down hill.

You need both a "Roy" and a "Walt". Eisner is a great "Roy" but the company does not have any "Walt's" now, sadly.

Excellent point, karlsen. No matter how good the "Roy" is now, without the "Walt" he can't be majorly successful.