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Fox and the Hound 2 "put down"!

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:35 am
by 2099net
Just a brief note, but I've read
Disney Toons just put a stop to "Fox and the Hound II" - Stainton didn't like Act I.
So there you go all you Stainton haters. Not only are Disney not going ahead with a (assumed) "lackluster" cheapquel, but Stainton himself stopped it.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:43 am
by Uncle Remus
YEAH!!! This calls for a celebration!! :D :D :D
I'll bring in the Donald Duck orange juice!

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:44 am
by PatrickvD
supposedly this feature was to be about Todd & Copper meeting up with the crew from Dumbo in a nearby circus... :lol: gee I wonder why it was shut down... maybe this means Dumbo II is out of the way aswell! :D

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:47 am
by Uncle Remus
wait a minute! :shock: you mean the sequel was a mix up between The Fox and the Hound and Dumbo?

now i quiver with fear. :oops:

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:49 am
by Jens
Uhm, don't see why everyone is cheering on this. This could have been a good movie, we didn't even see anything of it! Anyway, what is your source 2099net?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:49 am
by 2099net
I very much doubt it was to be a crossover. :P

Disney does need crossovers though. I want a Tarzan / Team Atlantis crossover. Both come from the same period in history (give or take) and given some of the later "wacky" Tarzan tales, Team Atlantis would fit right in!

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:53 am
by 2099net
Jens wrote:Uhm, don't see why everyone is cheering on this. This could have been a good movie, we didn't even see anything of it! Anyway, what is your source 2099net?
Its a post on AnimationNation.Com - a forum frequented by animators.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 10:57 am
by Uncle Remus
i really dont like the idea of two movies in a crossover. the only time when i have seen this was in a Hercules TV show episode where Jafar teams up with Hades to get rid of both Alddin and Hercules.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:05 am
by MickeyMousePal
IMO NO Crossover.
I also saw the Hercules and Aladdin Crossover it was ok the plot was weak.

Fox and the Hound and Dumbo crossover no way leave the animated classics alone.
These films are not superheroes to make crossover with them.
I would rather see a Spider-Man and Daredevil crossover movie.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 11:11 am
by PatrickvD
2099net wrote:I very much doubt it was to be a crossover. :P

Disney does need crossovers though. I want a Tarzan / Team Atlantis crossover. Both come from the same period in history (give or take) and given some of the later "wacky" Tarzan tales, Team Atlantis would fit right in!
right on! lol.... crossovers can be good :P

But I wasnt kidding about Dumbo and Fox and the Hound (as redicolous as it may sound), it was actually the idea to make it like this for quit some time. I think I read about that a while back, on the same forum you did.. animationnation.com some funny people over there btw :)...come to think of it, maybe they were just joking :lol:

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 12:16 pm
by englishboy
Sigh. I'm sure this was a joke.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:03 pm
by 2099net
Uncle Remus wrote:i really dont like the idea of two movies in a crossover. the only time when i have seen this was in a Hercules TV show episode where Jafar teams up with Hades to get rid of both Alddin and Hercules.
Or of course "House of Mouse"?

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 1:38 pm
by Prince Adam
I just remembered I hated the Touched By an Angel and Promised Land crossovers.
I'd hate a Dumbo/Fox and the Hound one. OK for a TV series, but not a movie.

Wasn't there a sequel to the original book, "The Fox and the Hound"? I thought it was an original story, but was a companion to "Fox and the Hound" with cameos by Todd and Copper.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 4:05 pm
by Loomis
I don't know how this turned into a "crossovers" thread, but while we are at it, the comic book collector in me can't resist a good crossover (and sometimes a bad one). I love the HoM concept, and would love to see more Disney crossovers.

Where would Green Arrow be today if he didn't crossover with Lantern in #76 of the previous GL series? I ask you! WHERE??

Ahem...
As for the Fox and Hound sequel, I'm not sure I see enough scope there for one anyway. It is interesting Stainton himself stopped it. I only hope there is not some ulterior motive in his stopping, such as it was "too 2D" or something.

I just hope that the last castle of 2D doesn't fall under the weight of the 3D mandate.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:38 pm
by jambo*rafiki
Haha. The Fox and the Hound II? Better they waste their time with that than with a sequel to one of the better movies. I did like The Fox and the Hound, though.
Speaking of crossovers . . . I'm not opposed to them, but I think they're a little disturbing. I mean, the thing about cartoon characters is that they're supposed to live in their own little world. If they can cross over to each other's worlds, who's to say they can't come into ours?
:o
scary thought. Anyway, "The Rugrats meet The Wild Thornberries" turned me off of that genre for good . . . :shifty:

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 6:50 pm
by Jake Lipson
HURRAH!!

Enough said.

Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2004 8:49 pm
by Loomis
Jake Lipson wrote:HURRAH!!

Enough said.
I'm still not sure why people have this glee over hearing a movie has been stopped.

Firstly, there were people working on that movie, and now they have to find seomthing else to do. If there aren't enough projects, they get shitcanned. And Disney has done a lot of shitcanning in the last few years. But that's beside the point...

Secondly, I find the same people who whine about the excessive amount of "cheap" sequels - and this isn't directed at you Jake, you were just the last who posted :) sorry! - are the same people who complain that '2D is dead. Bring back 2D'. Well, what do you think the sequels are animated in?

Thirdly, the sequels are a good little money-maker. Not setting any records, but they are always in the charts, and they bring in a steady flow of cash for the stuido (which props up the more expensive projects).

Besides, I've never understood the argument that a sequel somehow lessens the original.

So rather than demanding less sequels, I think we should be demanding more money and time spent on these things. Because after all, this is 2Ds last stand.

Thus endeth the rant :P

Somebody point me in the direction of Ernest Rister - I'm all riled up now, and looking for a fight (better him than you guys... :P).

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 3:17 pm
by disneyfella
i really enjoy your avatar Loomis. i am a huge fan of the Halloween series (number one is by far my all time favorite!...i'm saving up for the 25th anniversary edition). it didn't hit me until like a week ago that "Dr. Loomis" may have been your inspiration for the alias. Kudos to you for such a cool name! which one is your favorite.....i hope it was NOT Halloween III!!!!!!

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 4:27 pm
by Mr. Toad
Freddy Krueger is way cooler than Mike Myers.

Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2004 8:39 pm
by Grunches
Loomis wrote:
Jake Lipson wrote:HURRAH!!

Enough said.
I'm still not sure why people have this glee over hearing a movie has been stopped.

Firstly, there were people working on that movie, and now they have to find seomthing else to do. If there aren't enough projects, they get shitcanned. And Disney has done a lot of shitcanning in the last few years. But that's beside the point...

Secondly, I find the same people who whine about the excessive amount of "cheap" sequels - and this isn't directed at you Jake, you were just the last who posted :) sorry! - are the same people who complain that '2D is dead. Bring back 2D'. Well, what do you think the sequels are animated in?

Thirdly, the sequels are a good little money-maker. Not setting any records, but they are always in the charts, and they bring in a steady flow of cash for the stuido (which props up the more expensive projects).

Besides, I've never understood the argument that a sequel somehow lessens the original.

So rather than demanding less sequels, I think we should be demanding more money and time spent on these things. Because after all, this is 2Ds last stand.

Thus endeth the rant :P

Somebody point me in the direction of Ernest Rister - I'm all riled up now, and looking for a fight (better him than you guys... :P).


The only reason I don't like sequels (cheapquels) 1 they make it just for a fast buck and don't put good effort into the movie. If they made it like the Lion King 1 1/2 it could be good. 2 it ruins the orignal idea that Walt made. They are just ruining out of ideas so they do sequels off of everything. 3. I don't like sequels because the voices are different and not the same. If they bring back the same cast like the Lion King 1 1/2 then it would probally be ok if they just did good antimation and plot and so forth.