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Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 9:34 am**

Disney to Unveil System to Bypass DVD Ownership

Disney is expected to unveil technology next month that will give consumers “access rights” to movies and TV shows, allowing them to pay a single price for permanent access to content across the web, mobile devices, and cable services that allow on-demand viewing.

The technology, known as Keychest, allows users to purchase rights to a movie from a participating store, and the user’s accounts with other participating services, such as mobile providers or VOD cable services, show the content as available for viewing, the Wall Street Journal reports. The movies reside with the particular delivery company, and the user can access the movie from any device. This could mean an end to the necessity of owning of physical DVDs.

Disney has not named any other participating companies.

If successful, Keychest could conquer the hurdles that are holding back widespread adoption of movie downloads, mainly the difficulty of playing movies on any device other than a computer, and limited computer storage space.

DVD sales have plunged by 25% for some studios, weakening the studios’ business model. Keychest, though it may not be profitable for as many as five years, could bring the category “up to a healthy state where we can expect growth in the future,” says Bob Chapek, president of home entertainment at Disney Studios.

http://www.mediabuyerplanner.com/entry/ ... ownership/

Would one then be able to burn these movies/shows on to a DVD? And what would the quality be like? Also, this means the end to special features (although Disney typically likes to have little or none on those, see X-Men and DuckTales). I'd prefer to just buy DVDs. I don't like watching stuff on my computer unless I have to. I'd probably rather them do a DVD on Demand type thing for their less popular stuff like Warner Brothers.

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:19 am**

I like having the physical DVD, too. I don't watch movies on my mp3 player or anything, and I don't want the movie just on the computer. I hope that there will always be physical media available. For people who already download movies or for people who are interested in that, then maybe this would be good for them, but I hope that eventually this won't be the only way to "own" a movie.

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 11:57 am**

I really don't care for not having physical copies of movies... not to mention it seems to be good business sense to continue to offer hard copies of movies, given the markups.

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:24 pm**

This sounds like a bad business decision on Disney's part as re-releasing the movies over and over is what makes them money. It sounds like you'll be buying the movie rights for life with Keychest and in ever formate available.

It'll be a great deal for customers to buy a movie once and for all. Stream in in HD to your TV, computer, PMP, or whatever else they invent in the future and not take up all that room in your house or worrying about scratches/defects.

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 3:17 pm**

I like having a physical copy of my movies and putting them in my DVD players and watching them whenever I want to on my TVs. I don't have to worry about a server or internet provider being down or account issues or if Keychest goes under or any similar stuff with a DVD.

Posted: **Sat Oct 24, 2009 4:40 pm**

Yeah I'm sorry, this seems like it could be a good idea, but I've gotta have a physical disc or whatever. We all know that wherever you download this stuff from won't be there forever and it just seems better to physically own something.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 5:19 pm**

This is a good until something happens to the Keychest server and all your movies are lost and then have to go through a process to retrieve them or lose them forever if it goes down permanently.

I chose not to trust my money into something that can be taken away at any time. I prefer to actually OWN something, this isn't ownership in my eyes.

Now if this was something you get EXTRA when buying a Blu Ray/DVD then that is great. Other than that, no thanks.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 6:04 pm**

MadHatterDesign wrote:This is a good until something happens to the Keychest server and all your movies are lost and then have to go through a process to retrieve them or lose them forever if it goes down permanently.

I smell a "Jurassic Park"-esque screenplay!

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 7:46 pm**

I think this idea would also destroy a feeling of collectibility. I know I collect the DAC's and I love looking up on my Disney shelves and seeing my physical collection. Also, with a lot of the DAC's the only product you can buy from or about the film are the actual DVD or Bluray releases. I think in the end it would actually bring down sales as well as promote pirating. Sure Disney would save money by not making discs, but I can't help but feel like at the end of the day they'd still make less money.

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 8:06 pm**

Honestly? I am PRAYING this doesn't come to pass!

Posted: **Mon Oct 26, 2009 10:20 pm**

I think it's safe to say that this will be an option in addition to regularly released blu-rays and DVDS (until they become obsolete). Just like those Japanese disney films released on DVD + micro SD card. I think this is a great move by disney for those families who need a quick disney fix and dont have the time to go searching for obscure physical releases (and don't mind the quality).

Not to mention, it's green.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:19 pm**

I would rather stick to buying and owning physical copies of the movies as opposed to downloading them.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:09 pm**

yukitora wrote:I think it's safe to say that this will be an option in addition to regularly released blu-rays and DVDS (until they become obsolete). Just like those Japanese disney films released on DVD + micro SD card. I think this is a great move by disney for those families who need a quick disney fix and dont have the time to go searching for obscure physical releases (and don't mind the quality).

Not to mention, it's green.

I completely agree. I have no objection to Disney making their catalog of films easier to access. And like you said, Disney isn't going to ditch disc media. This will all be in addition to DVDs and Blu-Rays. All this does is expand where you can watch a digital copy.

So you can still buy your DVDs and Blu-Rays and add to your collection. Keychest is simply another option for consumers. I think it's wonderful and I hope this makes Disney a lot of money.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 4:32 pm**

I don't like the idea of this at all. I want my physical copy of the movie that I can touch and own. I don't like relying on my computer for stuff like this. To me, it's just stupid to download movies when you can just go to the store and buy it. People are relying too much on their computers.

Posted: **Tue Oct 27, 2009 5:53 pm**

If I could buy the ORIGINAL Parent Trap or a tv movie called "The Blue Yonder" (AKA Time Flyer) I'd definitely participate. The original parent trap is only on DVD with the lame tv sequel and I only want the original.

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:50 am**

jediliz wrote:If I could buy the ORIGINAL Parent Trap or a tv movie called "The Blue Yonder" (AKA Time Flyer) I'd definitely participate. The original parent trap is only on DVD with the lame tv sequel and I only want the original.

Why not buy the Vault Disney set that doesn't include the sequel...?

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:45 am**

the Vault Disney DVD is OOP and not available ANYWHERE except on eBay.

"Time Flyer"/"Blue Yonder" is not available ANYWHERE at all because Disney has no plans to release it on DVD.

Just curious: if this was the only way to obtain SONG OF THE SOUTH, how many of you would jump on the concept?

Posted: **Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:55 am**

jediliz wrote: Just curious: if this was the only way to obtain SONG OF THE SOUTH, how many of you would jump on the concept?

That's an interesting question. I would have to know more about the technology before I could decide, I think.

1. Is this not a download, but just a way to watch the movie on your computer? Kind of like going to YouTube- you can watch, but you don't have a download of the material? Because that's not "owning"...just watching.
2. If you can download the movie, can you back it up to an external hard drive? If so, I would at least thinking of buying the movie in this format, if no DVD were to be released.
3. If you can download the movie, can you burn it to a DVD? If it'd be good quality (better than my bootleg), then I'd think about it, if it would be a good price...but I wouldn't want to subscribe, if it is a subscription service, just for one movie.

I'm just a bit confused with this Keychest thing!

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2009 5:40 am**

Disney Registers Domain Names for ‘Keychest’ Service
http://www.stitchkingdom.com/2009/12/16 ... t-service/
(via disneyreport.com)

Posted: **Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:58 am**

I would definitely rather just have a good DVD/Blu-ray release. However, if it was the only way to get a widescreen copy of The Country Bears, I might do it.

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