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[France] "The Black Caldron" Finally Releases !
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2004 10:18 am
by Jordan
Hey guys !
I've got nice news fro some of you !!
"The Black Caldron" ("Taram et le Chaudron magique" in French) is finally going to be released in France, 3 years after the Region 1 Set and almost as much as after the Belgium set !
The DVD will come on April 30th and it seems that it'd be the same as the Region 1 release (and as the Belgium one). English, and orignial French Tracks (not the awful redone one that appeared on the French laserdic), original 1.66 aspect ratio.
Well, that's true that anyone in France who love this movie may have already bought the Region 1 release which is really cheap in stores.
But it still great news
I'm not so jealous about the time we had to wait to have the movie edited on DVd, because in France, we had the Sleeping Beauty Special Edition a year and an half before the USA, and still have the 2-disc Collector's Edition of Peter Pan (released a year ago) which hasn't been released elsewhere yet !

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:07 am
by Jordan
Nobody seemed interrsted in that but I keep going
If have great news today 'bout that edition !! IT WILL BE BETTER THAN ANY OF THE SETS ALREADY RELEASED !
Here's what's more :
- The ORIGINAL 2.35 transfer enhanced for 16/9 Television (contrary to the 4/3 of the R1)
- THX Certefied
- Image and Sound Digitally Remastered
- Dolby Digital 5.1 and DTS 5.1 in French !
Plus, the original bonus features of the other sets ! So, maybe it was worth the wait to have a so good edition ! That's true that BVHE FRance always want to do betther than the other ones about DVD that we waited long for...
Here's the artwork :
Released April 9th !
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:31 am
by tooniac
I'm not really interested in the Black Cauldron - I saw it on release, and thought it was one of the most boring films I'd ever seen. However, could you tell me one thing - do you know any French dvd web sites that might still have snow white in stock?

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:34 am
by tooniac
I feel a bit mean asking you something and not saying anything positive about your news!
OK - I prefer the French title to the English one. 'Taran and the Magic Cauldron' definitely sounds better than 'The Black Cauldron'.

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:41 am
by Matty-Mouse
Not sure if I like that cover all that much, but I've never really liked any cover for "The Black Cauldron" yet. They need to be "darker".
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 10:46 am
by Jordan
tooniac wrote:I'm not really interested in the Black Cauldron - I saw it on release, and thought it was one of the most boring films I'd ever seen. However, could you tell me one thing - do you know any French dvd web sites that might still have snow white in stock?

I read your next post
Snow White in France ? Wow... I had the chance to find it last July on a website during the sales for €18 ! I took the last copy !
Right now the only you'll find is used copies or new directly to people but really expensive.
However, here's some french links, of good buying websites :
- amazon.fr
- fnac.com
- alapage.com
Sorry for SW...

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 12:43 pm
by Joe Carioca
IT IS ENHANCED FOR 16X9 TELEVISIONS?!!!!! I'm so jealous!!!!! I have the American DVD and it has the crappiest transfer for a Disney movie ever! Jordan, when you have the chance to watch it, could you tell us if the transfer looks restored in some way?
Even if it isn't, the anamorphic enhancement is worth it already!
Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:01 pm
by PatrickvD
actually, I like that cover... except maybe for the Disney dvd logo in the right bottom corner... not too bad for a dvd premiere.... dutch dvd was baaaad

Posted: Tue Mar 02, 2004 3:34 pm
by Scabbie
I don't like the French cover. In my opinion the dutch cover looks very nice:

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 7:51 am
by Jordan
PatrickvD wrote:actually, I like that cover... except maybe for the Disney dvd logo in the right bottom corner... not too bad for a dvd premiere.... dutch dvd was baaaad

I agree with you, the logo is too big and in the middle and it is this way for almost every title in France (that's why I sometimes get the US ones !

no kidding.... I get the US ones 'cos they're sometimes better. Not in that case apparently

Posted: Wed Mar 03, 2004 9:27 am
by tooniac
Thanks for the French web addresses Jordan!
Grrr...I just know I won't be able to buy Snow White at a reasonable price until the next release in 2008.
BTW, have you ever read any of Sylvain Chomet's Casterman albums? I'd love to know what they're like. I didn't realise this, but he worked for Disney for four months - a period of employment that suggests he wasn't very happy there! (in fact, he wasn't!).
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 9:23 am
by advance
Well I have to say that the french are better with DTS.
They atleast do a french version DTS.
In the netherlands you are lucky if the disney DVD have any DTS
Posted: Thu Mar 04, 2004 11:25 am
by Scabbie
We had DTS on The Lion King and Pirates of the Caribbean. And we will get DTS on Finding Nemo. And I'm very happy that they don't put a Dutch spoken DTS track on it. The English voices are so beautyfull!
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 9:31 am
by advance
Well I wouldn't mind a dutch and englsih spoken DTS track on Disney movies.
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:54 pm
by Jordan
tooniac I feel so bad for you.
I went to a Virgin Megastore in Paris today and there was at least 40 copies of the French 2-disc Collector's Edition of Snow White for 35€ !
I'm so sorry
As for me, I picked up the Region 1 copy of The Lion King 1 1/2, it looks good !

Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 1:12 pm
by Tangela
Well, if I lived in France I would really be happy since the Black Cauldron is one of my favorite Disney movies. I like the European cover more than the American one because I think Eilonwy and Hen Wen deserve to be in the cover, not just Taran. The only things I don't like about that cover is that the artist seemed to be teasing the cauldron, that does not look like it at all, the hole is wider than that, and where are Creeper and the Horned King, they should be on the cover too. Eilonwy also looks a bit weird...

Re: [France] "The Black Caldron" Finally Releases
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 10:17 am
by mvealf
> I'm not so jealous about the time we had to wait to have the movie
> edited on DVd, because in France, we had the Sleeping Beauty Special > Edition a year and an half before the USA, and still have the 2-disc
> Collector's Edition of Peter Pan (released a year ago) which hasn't been > released elsewhere yet !
Yes, it has also been released on NTSC in Japan. It has the documentary on the 9 old men that is not available in the U.S.
Re: [France] "The Black Caldron" Finally Releases
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 12:10 pm
by Jordan
mvealf wrote: in France we still have the 2-disc Collector's Edition of Peter Pan (released a year ago) which hasn't been released elsewhere yet !
Yes, it has also been released on NTSC in Japan. It has the documentary on the 9 old men that is not available in the U.S.
Well actually, The Special Edtion of the movie released in the USA (now OOP) was the same exept it was on just on disc.
But I like the Frecnh's Edition, and I have it

Re: [France] "The Black Caldron" Finally Releases
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2004 5:00 pm
by Joe Carioca
Jordan wrote:mvealf wrote: in France we still have the 2-disc Collector's Edition of Peter Pan (released a year ago) which hasn't been released elsewhere yet !
Yes, it has also been released on NTSC in Japan. It has the documentary on the 9 old men that is not available in the U.S.
Well actually, The Special Edtion of the movie released in the USA (now OOP) was the same exept it was on just on disc.
But I like the Frecnh's Edition, and I have it

No, it is not. The differences betwen the two editions are no as big as it could have been, but the additions to the French set (which I'm proud to have

) are wonderful and do make the difference. Specially the 25-minute "Nine Old Men" featurette and the 1924 movie version of "Peter Pan" that was seen by uncle Walt when he was a child. Also, there are aditional galleries and a Silly Symphonies cartoon (Playful Pan)

Posted: Tue Apr 27, 2004 6:42 pm
by Joe Carioca
Hey, has anyone here gotten the French "Black Cauldron"? Is the picture quality really THX-worth? I know the anamorphic enhancement is worth the disc alone, but it doesn't help a lot if the quality is as crappy as the current R1 disc.