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Lion King DVD question
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:45 pm
by cuzin_jawn
Hi everyone,
I'm a new guy here, glad i found this site. I do have a question though about the Lion King dvd, and it is about a layer change, maybe. During the Special Edition of the movie at 11:33 and during the "theatrical" version at 10:49 into the movie, there's a slight pause. I think this is a layer change or something, but want to check. Does anyone else's dvd do this? None of my friends bought the dvd so I can't compare it to any elses. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Cuzin Jawn
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 7:52 pm
by Luke
Hey, welcome to the forum! I've heard that this is a universal problem, so while I have no intention of ever watching the IMAX cut with a new musical number...I believe this will be there, if I do. I think it's a branching change, rather than a layer change, but it should look just like that.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 8:05 pm
by ThiagoPE
Hi cuzin.
That pause is really the layer change.
This dvd begins with two separated tracks, one with the morning report and another with the original version. after the layer change, your dvd will read the same track.
Ok
Thiago
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 9:53 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
I dont get the pause on either version
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 10:12 pm
by BasilOfBakerStreet427
Nobody gets layer changes.
Posted: Thu Oct 23, 2003 11:05 pm
by Cinderelly
I got a pause also after the morning report section. Although it was slightly annoying it wasn't that big of a deal to me.
I haven't checked the "original" version yet for pausing. I'll report back later on that.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:36 am
by ThiagoPE
MickeyMouseboy wrote:I dont get the pause on either version
may be because your dvd makes the layer change too fast, that you don´t perceive the pause, but it exists.
Thiago
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 4:42 am
by ThiagoPE
BasilOfBakerStreet427 wrote:Nobody gets layer changes.
Everybody get a layer change.
Since the disney movies are recorded in dvd9, in some moment of the movie it need to make a slight pause to change the layer. the newest dvd player don´t need to do this because have two independent readers of the disc, so when the frist layer ends, imediatlly the second beggins to be readed.
Some disney movies has all the movie recoded in the layer one, so it don´t have layer change (example: lilo & stitch, Latin R4 version).
OK
Thiago
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:08 pm
by Maerj
ThiagoPE wrote:BasilOfBakerStreet427 wrote:Nobody gets layer changes.
The newest dvd players don´t need to do this because they have two independent readers of the disc, so when the first layer ends, immediatly the second begins to be read.
Thiago
So, there are players that don't pause when the layer switch happens? What brands and models? I hate that lil pause on dual layer discs.
Posted: Fri Oct 24, 2003 3:41 pm
by ThiagoPE
Maerj wrote:So, there are players that don't pause when the layer switch happens? What brands and models? I hate that lil pause on dual layer discs.
I really don´t know this information.
But i know that these players exists.
Try ask the model of the dvd player of MickeyMouseboy.
OK
Thiago
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 2:47 am
by 2099net
Basically they just have a bigger buffer, so are able to cache more data when reading off the disc. If the cache is large enough, they can still be playing from the cache while the read head moves to the second layer. This gives the illusion of no layer change.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 4:08 am
by MickeyMouseboy
i dont get any pause or any sign of a layer change it plays smoothly. my DVD Player is a Sony

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:16 am
by ThiagoPE
MickeyMouseboy wrote:i dont get any pause or any sign of a layer change it plays smoothly. my DVD Player is a Sony

mine too.
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:25 am
by IggieKuzco
Oh man! i dont have my copy of the DVD yet and i dont have a Sony..... does this mean it wont play well??

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:30 am
by ThiagoPE
IggieKuzco wrote:Oh man! i dont have my copy of the DVD yet and i dont have a Sony..... does this mean it wont play well??

No!
The dvd will play well in any dvd player, but the old player will make a slight pause after the morning report song for change the disc layer.
I like a lot your avatar, remembers the flag of my country.
Thiago
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:39 am
by IggieKuzco
ThiagoPE wrote:The dvd will play well in any dvd player, but the old player will make a slight pause after the morning report song for change the disc layer.
how old does the player have to be not to play??
ThiagoPE wrote:I like a lot your avatar, remembers the flag of my country.
Thanks!!

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 5:48 am
by ThiagoPE
IggieKuzco wrote:ThiagoPE wrote:The dvd will play well in any dvd player, but the old player will make a slight pause after the morning report song for change the disc layer.
how old does the player have to be not to play??
I think after 2002, at least, the majority of the players don´t makes more this pause.
Try test a dvd where you know the area of the slight pause:

The slight pause happes at this point of the movie, ther brazilian edition also change the font of the subtitles (it was a miss from the people of the authoring)
Thiago
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:12 am
by IggieKuzco
Damn... i got an LG DVD from before 2002..... i sure hope it'll work smoothly!! it's like 2-3 years old!!
btw... thanks for all your help Thiago!!

Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:18 am
by ThiagoPE
Ok, when you need my help, is just ask
Posted: Sat Oct 25, 2003 6:48 am
by IggieKuzco
ThiagoPE wrote:Ok, when you need my help, is just ask
thanks Thiago!
