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Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 1:25 am
by blaing
I know there are gonna be complaints about all of Donald's wartime cartoons being repeated (like I am), but the way I look at it, this will probably be the only way some people will see these cartoons, as Disney on the Front Lines will not be released outside continental North America (which is the reason why I bought this set.)

I am looking forward to getting TCD volume 2 and the Disney Rarities sets though.

Like last year, a family member wants me to buy a set (this time, it's the Spin and Marty collection), but I wont be getting Elfeco Baca and the Swamp Fox (that is one of two Treasurs I haven't bought yet, the other being Disneyland U.S.A.)

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:12 am
by Mungle
Prince Phillip wrote:Wasn't this done with the Pluto set? I have not actually opened mine yet, but I thought I remembered people saying that all the Pluto cartoons could have easily fit onto one set but that they douple dipped a lot of cartoons from the Micket sets in order to break up Pluto into 2 volumes...
Exactly. And even with that, it was quite a poor collection (only 28 cartoons afaik). They could really have made just one Pluto volume, as they did with Goofy. No good trend: Less cartoons, cheaper and cheaper packaging (I wonder how it will be this wave...).
Very disappointing. I also have the feeling that they are going to release the Donald sets every other year, so expects the treasures series to span a while... Hopefully they'll release the 2nd vol of Silly Symphonies soon!
Hmmm, which year is it going to be when we can have all Donald and Goofy cartoons on Disney DVD? Maybe 2008?

Greetings
Mungle

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:34 am
by Mungle
blaing wrote:I know there are gonna be complaints about all of Donald's wartime cartoons being repeated (like I am), but the way I look at it, this will probably be the only way some people will see these cartoons, as Disney on the Front Lines will not be released outside continental North America (which is the reason why I bought this set.)
I think the reason for this is that one should have the opportunity to get all cartoons of a Disney character like Donald without having to buy another collection like "Front Lines". Well, in case of Pluto, at least all colored cartoons will be available via the 2 Pluto Collections.
B/W-cartoons with Pluto can only be found on the two Mickey Mouse B/W volumes.

About the fact that some collections will not be released outside continental North America: Shipping overseas has always been an option, hasn't it? :)
And often it is necessary to do so: In Europe, for example, none of the collections "Pluto", "Goofy" and "Mickey Mouse B/W 1/ & 2" seems to have been released. So, as a european fan of these cartoons, you don't really have a choice. :evil:

Greetings
Mungle

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:38 am
by MK Sharp
Mungle wrote:Hmmm, which year is it going to be when we can have all Donald and Goofy cartoons on Disney DVD? Maybe 2008?
I'd be willing to lay a wager that we get Donald Vol 3 and Pluto Vol 2 in 2006 and Donald 4 and Silly Symphonies 2 in 2007, which would then have pretty much covered the entire canon.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 5:41 am
by Mungle
MK Sharp wrote:
Mungle wrote:Hmmm, which year is it going to be when we can have all Donald and Goofy cartoons on Disney DVD? Maybe 2008?
I'd be willing to lay a wager that we get Donald Vol 3 and Pluto Vol 2 in 2006 and Donald 4 and Silly Symphonies 2 in 2007, which would then have pretty much covered the entire canon.
I hope so. And, indeed, I meant Pluto (not Goofy) of course :oops: .

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 7:59 am
by jebsdad
blaing wrote:I wont be getting Elfeco Baca and the Swamp Fox (that is one of two Treasurs I haven't bought yet, the other being Disneyland U.S.A.)
At this moment, I have no plans to get the Elfego Baca/Swamp Fox set. It would be the first Treasures set that I would not have bought. I have seen these shows on the Disney Channel and they never interested me. However, I will look closely at what extras are on this set and I might buy the set for the extras.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 12:33 pm
by Lars Vermundsberget
Mungle wrote:B/W-cartoons with Pluto can only be found on the two Mickey Mouse B/W volumes.
And a lot of cartoons with Donald Duck can only be found on the Mickey volumes as well. That's what I expect and hope, at least.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 3:20 pm
by vezner
do you think that they will release the zorro series on a future disney treasures wave? I sure hope so. I never watched swamp fox, davey crocket, or any of the other live action series that disney put out, but I did love the zorro series as a kid. I would buy that set in a heart beat.

I'm also really looking forward to the chronological donald vol 2 and the rarities DVD.

Posted: Sun Aug 14, 2005 4:03 pm
by Tony
MK Sharp wrote: I'd be willing to lay a wager that we get Donald Vol 3 and Pluto Vol 2 in 2006 and Donald 4 and Silly Symphonies 2 in 2007, which would then have pretty much covered the entire canon.
I totally agree with this.... I expect this is what will happen and indeed hope it is the case.

With Disney also appearing to want to release all platinums etc before Blue-ray in 2008, it makes sense for Donald's 4th volume to be finished in December 2007.

I however don't want to wait over 2 years too see the Humphrey and Ranger Woodlore shorts from the mid 50's... They had better release a Cartoon Classics set before then !

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 10:05 am
by MK Sharp
blaing wrote:but the way I look at it, this will probably be the only way some people will see these cartoons, as Disney on the Front Lines will not be released outside continental North America (which is the reason why I bought this set.)
I beginning to doubt whether we'll ever see any more Treasures released outside of NA. Still, with pre-order discounts and a favourable exchange rate, it often works out much the same price as buying locally, so there's hardly any point waiting.

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:20 pm
by Mungle
MK Sharp wrote:
blaing wrote:but the way I look at it, this will probably be the only way some people will see these cartoons, as Disney on the Front Lines will not be released outside continental North America (which is the reason why I bought this set.)
I beginning to doubt whether we'll ever see any more Treasures released outside of NA. Still, with pre-order discounts and a favourable exchange rate, it often works out much the same price as buying locally, so there's hardly any point waiting.
I could possibly imagine that the next volumes of the Chronological Donald will be released outside of NA. But nevertheless, you should prefer the American releases, because they are the earliest of all and you won't have to worry about material that might have been deleted as it happened to the Mickey Mouse Cartoon "Runaway Brain", which is missing on many European versions of "Mickey Mouse in Living Color Vol. 2".

Greetings
Mungle

Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 1:38 pm
by Mouseketodd
I could see 'Zorro' being released as a Treasures subject, maybe being partnered with 'Dr. Syn, alias the Scarecrow' as another volume of "Legendary Heroes."

I read that 'Dr. Syn' was delayed because Disney was trying to locate a portion of (original?) footage. I think this came from a fan (Tom Hering) site, which -- I'm sorry to say -- is not active at this time.

Mr. Hering: I hope you can post your Dr. Syn site once again!

What I'd like to see as a Treasures volume is one with Christmas TV specials aired in the past. And.... one featuring vintage rides no longer found/original versions at the theme parks (Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln, If You Had Wings).