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UP lost Best Picture. You may now commence the ridiculing of the Academy.

ajmrowland wrote:UP lost Best Picture. You may now commence the ridiculing of the Academy.

Up, was never really a contender, honestly. But, it is a step in the right direction. Who knows, within the next 20 years, an animated film may win an Oscar for Best Picture. But it will take time before that happens.

I know, it's just that Animation's about as old as Live Action and it's not fair that only one of them gets all the attention.

ajmrowland wrote:I know, it's just that Animation's about as old as Live Action and it's not fair that only one of them gets all the attention.

Great. It's gonna be probably another twenty years till an animated movie gets Best Picture nomination.

Notice how Avatar was snubbed as well, even though out of all the nominated films it was the most popular, highest grossing and most talked about. Same with District 9.

If anything, animation and CG will never get enough recognition unless it somehow creates a DEEP impact on society. So big that the Academy will have to acknowledge it for its brilliance.

^ I don't think so... I actually think that they raised the nominations to ten so people would stop bugging them for never nominating comedies, animated films, horrors, etc... It's the Academy's way of saying "Here, we gave you a best picture nomination". So personally I think we'll be seeing many more animated films nominated for best picture. Will we ever see one win? That's the real question. I don;t think many people see animated films as a "real" genre of quality films. I personally disagree, but I read somewhere that people don't think an animated film can win because there's no real actors, costume design, make-up, etc. It's sad.

^By that logic, neither can Live Action films, because we're talking Best PICTURE.

disneyboy20022 wrote: and Princess and the frog lost both....the animated feature win and the best original song...

I guess that's what Disney gets for hiring Randy Newman.

At least with Menken, despite TP&TF's financial success or lack thereof, we would have had another excellent album. As it is, TP&TF has gone by completely unnoticed by the general public.

Didn't they do a sort of preview for the upcoming year of movies during last years's Oscars? I was hoping they do that again this year, maybe see a quick shot of Rapunzel.

Babaloo wrote:^ I don't think so... I actually think that they raised the nominations to ten so people would stop bugging them for never nominating comedies, animated films, horrors, etc... It's the Academy's way of saying "Here, we gave you a best picture nomination". So personally I think we'll be seeing many more animated films nominated for best picture. Will we ever see one win? That's the real question. I don;t think many people see animated films as a "real" genre of quality films. I personally disagree, but I read somewhere that people don't think an animated film can win because there's no real actors, costume design, make-up, etc. It's sad.

I think its going to be a while till an animated film wins for the reasons you stated. And you know what, its quite sad too.

Animated films take as much time, if not more, to make as live action films. They need to be written, designed, drawn, painted, edited and ACTED. Just because they are being voiced it doesn't means the actors don't act.

It's a painstaking process that very few people realize.

buffalobill wrote:UP Best Original Score

That's great news! It's too bad Disney steadfastly refuses to release the soundtrack on CD.

As far as the discussion about Up itself, like many of you I was disapointed it didn't win Best Picture, but given Academy Trends through the years I wasn't expecting it to. It's a special, sublime film that would have been a great choice to be the first Animated Film to finally break through and take home the big prize. Then again, the people who love the film know it's outstanding, and that's what's most important. No one can take away it's intrinsic worth, and at least it got some recognition in the Animated Category, although of course I would have loved to see it get the recognition as Best Picture also.

And yes, I wanted Princess and the Frog to win for Best Song. Oh well....

Disney's Divinity wrote:I guess that's what Disney gets for hiring Randy Newman.

At least with Menken, despite TP&TF's financial success or lack thereof, we would have had another excellent album. As it is, TP&TF has gone by completely unnoticed by the general public.

I'm sorry, but how dare you blame Randy Newman for neither of the movie's two songs winning? That's like blaming the Sherman Brothers for being nominated but not winning any Oscars for their work on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or Bedknobs and Broomsticks, even if the former isn't a Disney movie.

DisneyJedi wrote:
I'm sorry, but how dare you blame Randy Newman for neither of the movie's two songs winning?

...ugh...he wrote them, didn't he?

That's like blaming the Sherman Brothers for being nominated but not winning any Oscars for their work on Chitty Chitty Bang Bang or Bedknobs and Broomsticks, even if the former isn't a Disney movie.

Except Randy Newman is nowhere near the same level as the Sherman Brothers.

Btw, since I forgot to say it earlier, I'm happy Up won Best Original Score. It definitely had that going for it.

I'm sorry, Disney's Divinity, but the songs were good enough to be NOMINATED. So really, they liked Randy's talent enough to nominate him twice. Oh and FYI... Alan Menken was nominated THREE TIMES for Enchanted and he didn't win either. Should he be blamed for none of the Enchanted songs winning anything?

Speaking of songs...

Isn't it odd that they refused to let the singers perform the nominated songs due to time issues, yet they had an elaborate presentation for the nominated scores?

They are sending mixed messages, here...

pap64 wrote:I'm sorry, Disney's Divinity, but the songs were good enough to be NOMINATED. So really, they liked Randy's talent enough to nominate him twice.

Well. That told me.

Strangely, most people don't care about who was nominated. More about who wins.

(Geez. Am I forced to argue in every thread I post in now?)

Haha The Hurt Locker won 6 academy awards. I didn't care for this years' academy awards except one: Best supporting actor-Christopher Waltz. He earned it as he was brilliant in it.

Thoughts on the show:

- Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin weren't particularly funny. I hope they get Ricky Gervais next year.
- I disliked the whole self-congratulatory presenting of the acting awards last year and I still dislike them. The show is already known for being one massive pat of the back. Don't need to prove that all-too-true image.
- The interviews with the animated film nominees was hilarious. lol at Naveen getting squished and Mr Fox wondering what The Secret of Kells is.
- Wallace & Gromit losing animated short? Biggest shocker of the evening.
- I'm not too bothered with The Hurt Locker winning, even if I was rooting for Avatar. Even though I wasn't balled over by it (blame that overlong second half following the exciting first half), I acknowledge its accomplishment. But, it really is just a standard war film. Still, not as annoying as the Slumdog Millionaire sweep.
- The Weary Kind is a nice song and all, but mark my words, in ten years, that song will be forgotten, while Newman's work will still resonate.
- The John Hughes tribute is great, though it's kind of interesting they devoted so much time to somebody who wasn't nominated (still ridiculous he didn't get a screenplay nomination for Ferris Bueller).
- Where was Wayne Allwine in the memoriam tribute? Oh, well. The Roy Disney mention makes up for that.

estefan wrote: - Wallace & Gromit losing animated short? Biggest shocker of the evening.

Agreed. Avatar loosing in the Best Picture category was the second-biggest shocker.

estefan wrote: -The Weary Kind is a nice song and all, but mark my words, in ten years, that song will be forgotten, while Newman's work will still resonate

Avatar losing wasn't the second biggest shocker, or even a shocker at all. It was a great movie, but not that great.