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Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 5:11 am
by yamiiguy
atlanticaunderthesea wrote:
yamiiguy wrote: I could do a review of the Region 2 (around Nov 20th)
oh my gosh! that would be amazing! please do!!
OK but my local Blockbuster only gets deliverys in on Tuesdays and Thursdays and they never got retail Little Mermaid copys til' the 9th :x so I went to another Blockbuster and store credit only works in one store :x
so expect it either 21st or 23rd

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:53 pm
by lighthousemike
blackcauldron85 wrote:Thanks for the screencaps/art, LighthouseMike!!!
Question: Is "Deleted Scenes" it's own category, with the subcategory "Alternate Ending"...I mean, is the only thing under "Deleted Scenes" that one "Alternate Ending", or are there other deleted scenes? I already have the Gold Collection DVD and was counting on multiple deleted scenes...even though I bought TF&tH again for one 6-minute documentary and an art gallery... I'm very glad this DVD has an art gallery, too, though...it justfifies the purchase a bit more!
There is no sub category for the deleted scenes. i posted all the menu screens from the dvd there are no others.

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 1:56 pm
by Beastboyravenz
I heard a while ago that Aladdin and the fourty thieves when released to dvd was cut off from the top and bottom. It was never meant to be widescreen but Disney cut the top and bottom to make it seem as if it were. Did they do the same thing to Robin Hood?

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 2:09 pm
by Escapay
Beastboyravenz wrote:I heard a while ago that Aladdin and the fourty thieves when released to dvd was cut off from the top and bottom. It was never meant to be widescreen but Disney cut the top and bottom to make it seem as if it were. Did they do the same thing to Robin Hood?
With Robin Hood, as has been pointed out several times already in this thread, it was animated in the 1.33:1 aspect ratio, with the intended theatrical ratio (via matting) being 1.75:1. So all the action would be contained within the 1.75:1 frame, but still have a 1.33:1 aspect ratio for stuff like television airings and home video releases. Both ratios are "correct" for Robin Hood, in that the intended animated ratio is 1.33:1, and the intended theatrical ratio is 1.75:1.

On Page 2, I did a composite of the Gold Collection and the Most Wanted Edition, which shows how the film was matted, as the full 1.33:1 frame is from the Gold Collection, and the large rectangle inset is the Most Wanted Edition. The smaller rectangles show the difference in color and video quality between Gold Collection and Most Wanted Edition:

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Aladdin and the King of Thieves was a direct-to-video film from 1996, and Disney had not started regularly matting down direct-to-video films until 1998, with The Lion King II: Simba's Pride (though Pooh's Grand Adventure is matted to 1.66:1 in the R1 DVD, despite being 1.33:1 in other regions and in its initial home video release from 1997). The DVD incorrectly frames the film at a 1.85:1 aspect ratio, and to add insult to injury, the tech specs on the back of the case say that it's 1.33:1.

It's quite apparent that 1.85:1 is NOT the intended ratio when one sees this frame: (from the review)

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Escapay

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:33 pm
by MICKEYMOUSE
I'm confused..I have the GOLD COLLECTION of Robin Hood, would it be stupid if I double dip. I know where to sell the GC, and I want to know if you guys are double dipping, like I am?

Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:19 pm
by Escapay
MICKEYMOUSE wrote:I'm confused..I have the GOLD COLLECTION of Robin Hood, would it be stupid if I double dip. I know where to sell the GC, and I want to know if you guys are double dipping, like I am?
I'm keeping my GC and buying the MWE so it's a 2-disc edition with both the fully animated frame on one disc and the matted theatrical frame on the other. It pisses me off that theres no *real* extras (though I hope the art gallery is at least as extensive as The Black Cauldron is, for a low-priority-from-Disney title.), but it's the movie that matters and extras are just icing on the cake (not a lot of icing here, but still...)

Escapay

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 2:54 am
by akhenaten
dont sell the GC mickey. from the screencaps it has better colors and full animation frame. just buy the MWE to quench ur curiosity to see how a widescreen robin hood would look like. :D

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:06 am
by slave2moonlight
Hmm. While I LOVE this movie (it was my fave along with Jungle Book as a kid), I don't know if I will be getting this, unless I find a great deal sometime. Since I have the Gold Collection and this wasn't much of a restoration, I am just not sure it is worth it. However, I would like to get the Art Gallery and deleted scene, so I can't rule out getting it eventually... Definitely putting it on the back burner for now though. There is far too much out there to get that I don't have at all. The only double-dipping I see happening in the near future is Peter Pan, unless I'm forgetting something.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 11:16 am
by slave2moonlight
Anyone know where I can see that "My Friends Tigger and Pooh" trailer? I assume that is the new show where Pooh and Tigger belong to a little girl instead of Christopher Robin, or something like that. My curiosity is getting to me about that one. I'm wondering if this is the same show I heard about some time ago, if it is animated, puppets, or what, and I'm just generally curious about it. Anyone have any info?

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:16 pm
by Poppins#1
Escapay wrote:
Poppins#1 wrote:I believe this is the first of the Disney animated Classics to not use the "created in" or "filmed" aspect ratio!
Mulan: Limited Issue/Gold Collection - both were framed in its theatrical 1.85:1 aspect ratio (unfortunately, both were non-anamorphic as well), but also included a 1.33:1 pan & scan version on the disc. The current Special Edition has the anamorphic 1.66:1 aspect ratio of the fully animated cell.

Beauty and the Beast: Platinum Edition - all three versions are anamorphic and framed in the theatrical 1.85:1 aspect ratio, not its animated 1.66:1 aspect ratio.

The Hunchback of Notre Dame - it's also presented in the theatrical 1.85:1 aspect ratio as opposed to its animated 1.66:1 aspect ratio.

All three films were presented in those ratios at the request of their producers/directors, though for the SE of Mulan it was decided to release it with the animated aspect ratio instead.

Escapay
You are very correct. I guess I had temporary amnesia in regards to the titles that had been slightly matted to their 1.85:1 theatrical ratios. The new "Little Mermaid" would be in that catagory as well with its animated ratio being 1.66:1 and the new DVD 1.78:1

Christopher Robin's old friends Tigger and Pooh...

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:48 pm
by Disney Duster
slave2moonlight wrote:Anyone know where I can see that "My Friends Tigger and Pooh" trailer? I assume that is the new show where Pooh and Tigger belong to a little girl instead of Christopher Robin, or something like that. My curiosity is getting to me about that one. I'm wondering if this is the same show I heard about some time ago, if it is animated, puppets, or what, and I'm just generally curious about it. Anyone have any info?
There was a show on Disney Channel geared towards very young kids that had puppets of the Hundred Acre Wood characters in front of cut-out backgrounds. The idea was that Pooh and his friends were emerging from a pop-up book. It's not on anymore in the United States that I know of, though it's on Playhouse Disney in the U.K. according to Wikipedia. "My Friends Tigger and Pooh" will be computer-animated and focus on a six-year-old girl named Darby as their new friend. Christopher Robin will show up, but this little girl will be replacing him in a way.

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2006 4:53 pm
by DisneyFreak5282
Simba3 wrote:
PixarFan2006 wrote:Those screencaps look really nice. The disc art is kind of typical though.
I agree, the disc art for Robin Hood looks terrible, just as it did on The Fox and the Hound. It can't be that hard, or cost that much more money, to make a decent looking disc.
Yeah. What is Disney doing with the discs' appearances? Robin Hood's disc appears to be that shiny, almost-transparent kind of looking disc art (like Chicken Little, or the PE of Lady and the Tramp's discs), but last week's release of Cars was a normal looking disc. What will Disney stick with?

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2006 8:40 am
by blackcauldron85
lighthousemike wrote:
blackcauldron85 wrote:Thanks for the screencaps/art, LighthouseMike!!!
Question: Is "Deleted Scenes" it's own category, with the subcategory "Alternate Ending"...I mean, is the only thing under "Deleted Scenes" that one "Alternate Ending", or are there other deleted scenes? I already have the Gold Collection DVD and was counting on multiple deleted scenes...even though I bought TF&tH again for one 6-minute documentary and an art gallery... I'm very glad this DVD has an art gallery, too, though...it justfifies the purchase a bit more!
There is no sub category for the deleted scenes. i posted all the menu screens from the dvd there are no others.
Thanks! I just wish there were more deleted scenes... :(

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:50 am
by PrincessJen
This DVD was set to be released on the 28th of November, I believe. I found it at my Walmart yesterday 11/24/06 for 14.99.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:51 am
by blackcauldron85
Has anyone seen the alternate ending yet? On www.animated-news.com, they had some screencaps, and it was just storyboard art, so I wonder if any of it has been animated...?

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 12:42 pm
by Simba3
PrincessJen wrote:This DVD was set to be released on the 28th of November, I believe. I found it at my Walmart yesterday 11/24/06 for 14.99.
WHAT?? You're kidding me? That is awesome. What a find!!

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 3:40 pm
by Dottie
Great, preview lighthousemike!!! Thanks a lot!!!
I like the picture, it looks clear and as it should. I still don't know what to think about it being matted to widescreen, but maybe that's just me who is not too fond of widescreen. I'd like to see everything that was animated, although this was the intended aspect ratio and they only made it in fullscreen to cut costs.

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 9:36 pm
by Pasta67
Can't say I'm surprised. I was never expecting this disc to be the best DVD of '06, but I was hoping for at least a little more than what we got. Oh well, at least it's slightly more that we we previously had, and hooray for the art gallery. As for the matting, I don't know why, but I'm honestly not upset about it. I would like to have the full picture, but seeing it the way it was seen in theaters is appealing as well. I still haven't seen the movie, so you can bet I'll be first in line this Tuesday.

I also cannot wait for the UD review!

Posted: Sat Nov 25, 2006 11:03 pm
by Matt
I saw it today at my local Walmart even The Cheetah Girls 2 but I refuse to buy both of them!

I am not getting Robin Hood because it has the annoying snap shut cases so I will wait to Target gets their shipment in. :)

I am not going to double dip on The Cheetah Girls 2 because I know they will be releasing it to a 2-Disc DVD next year. :)
I will not be a sucker for that anymore!

Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2006 6:08 am
by TheSequelOfDisney
Matt wrote:I am not getting Robin Hood because it has the annoying snap shut cases so I will wait to Target gets their shipment in. :)
Why don't you just take them off? Or better yet, look at the DVD case before you try to open it. I just learn which DVDs I have, with snap shut cases, and, hey, remember so I don't try to destroy my DVD case. You must be smarter than the case. I know it's hard, but your going to have to, sooner or later.