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Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:00 am**

thelittleursula wrote:I have to highly disagree with Doug on the Bee Movie. I hated it. For the reasons that he mentioned and then pushed aside, the story is messy and it's way too preachy and not subtle about it. He moaned about Ferngully not being subtle so how come Bee Movie gets away with it ? Because the flying animation looks pretty ??

Whatever Doug.

I was thinking the exact same thing. One of his reasons was also that he 'loved not knowing where the story was gonna take us next'.

Uhm, a LOT of awful movies have taken unexpected plot twist. I had no idea a giant octopus was going to stop the Titanic from sinking, that doesn't mean that animated Titanic movie is any good. It still sucks.

Bee Movie was a mess. It had one funny line: "John Travolta flies a plane, how hard can it be?"... and I think that was in the trailer.

So no. This shouldn't get a pass. But as always, Doug does not review movies objectively. He just does his routine of "I actually really like this" and "yeahhhh.... I don't knoooowwww". He's just not a film critic. Which thanks to the internet and youtube people have forgotten is an actual profession.

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 7:16 am**

PatrickvD wrote:
thelittleursula wrote:I have to highly disagree with Doug on the Bee Movie. I hated it. For the reasons that he mentioned and then pushed aside, the story is messy and it's way too preachy and not subtle about it. He moaned about Ferngully not being subtle so how come Bee Movie gets away with it ? Because the flying animation looks pretty ??

Whatever Doug.
I was thinking the exact same thing. One of his reasons was also that he 'loved not knowing where the story was gonna take us next'.

Uhm, a LOT of awful movies have taken unexpected plot twist. I had no idea a giant octopus was going to stop the Titanic from sinking, that doesn't mean that animated Titanic movie is any good. It still sucks.

Bee Movie was a mess. It had one funny line: "John Travolta flies a plane, how hard can it be?"... and I think that was in the trailer.

So no. This shouldn't get a pass. But as always, Doug does not review movies objectively. He just does his routine of "I actually really like this" and "yeahhhh.... I don't knoooowwww". He's just not a film critic. Which thanks to the internet and youtube people have forgotten is an actual profession.

Well, I don't think he really tries to pass himself off as a professional critic either. Not really his fault he has obsessive fans who take his word as gospel.

Can't think why people take him so seriously though. Same goes for other internet celebrities of his ilk. They are just giving their opinions on media.

Posted: **Thu Feb 21, 2013 9:56 pm**

Posted: **Sat Feb 23, 2013 6:58 pm**

I'm watching his Dreamworks videos now, but y'no, I wonder if Doug will consider doing something totally different for his next retrospective. I'd love to see something like a month for the movies of Hitchcock, Tarantino (including what he's written, not just directorial stuff) and Arthur Freed, among others.

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Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2013 12:53 am**

lol Doug is like obsessed with seeing flying animation in 3D. Good Dragon review though.

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2013 1:23 am**

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:52 pm**

I haven't seen all of Shrek 3 or Shrek 4--only bits and pieces. Shrek 3 wasn't appealing at all (although I liked the scenes with the princesses/villains, it felt like it could've been so much more). Shrek 4 didn't seem horrible, but I just don't like back-in-time plots. Besides, Rumpelstiltskin wasn't interesting to me.

I really enjoyed How to Train Your Dragon, and I'm looking forward to its sequel(s). I don't like it as much as the KFP series, but there is definitely a lot of good things going on there. I liked the protagonist, and I loved the depiction of his relationship with the dragons (and how he learned how to understand/control them rather than fight). The only thing I was lukewarm towards was the stereotypical parent v. child storyline, and it seemed almost verbatim copied step by step from other movies. I did like both the father and son characters, but their relationship wasn't the heart of the movie. I also didn't like the girl at all, and America Ferrera's voice only made her more annoying and unlikable than she might've been. I did like several of the minor characters, as well as the main dragon. I also liked the largest dragon's design, and I loved the ending (from the character learning about his missing leg to the dragons becoming a part of daily life).

Posted: **Tue Feb 26, 2013 9:57 pm**

I've been watching Dragons: Riders of Berk TV series on Cartoon Network and it's pretty entertaining and adds a lot to the franchise.

I do wish at some point Dreamworks would release it in 3D theaters again. Perhaps it will closer to the time the second one will come out as a limited engagement type thing

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Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:34 pm**

http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgi ... te-6558321

The Nostalgia Critic takes a look at the Disney Princess Line or rather Princesses in general. I figured I'd just post it in this thread since it would be silly to post it in a new thread

I thought his reasons were very good and well thought out

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:42 pm**

I am just wondering if he will ever be pressured to review Wreck it Ralph to complete Disneycember.

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2013 4:47 pm**

He also forgot about Valiant which is only distributed by Disney, but so was The Wild

He also forgot about Mars Needs Moms, but I imagine that will be a future Nostalgia Critic Video.

He also hinted that at some point he will be reviewing Bridge to Teribithia

Posted: **Tue Mar 26, 2013 8:47 pm**

He should also add Nightmare and Frankenweenie to that list while he's at it.

Posted: **Wed Mar 27, 2013 4:08 pm**

disneyboy20022 wrote:http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgi ... te-6558321

The Nostalgia Critic takes a look at the Disney Princess Line or rather Princesses in general. I figured I'd just post it in this thread since it would be silly to post it in a new thread

I thought his reasons were very good and well thought out

He does indeed make some good reasons in both favor and against the princess issue. I, however, must note a few things missing in his argument:
1) He should have mentioned that while Vanellope does indeed become a princess once King Candy is destroyed, she DOES strip herself of the title and the poofy dress that comes with it just to be herself and jokes with the princess concept, so that is an advancement at the very least and should have been noted.

2) The examples he mentions about stronger, non-princess female role models are aimed at an older audience, while the princess fad is usually aimed at girls age pre-school till they are 7 or 8, that's when they move onto something else (not saying that girls can't enjoy princess things till much longer, just saying that most of the merchandise and such is aimed at younger girls). Katniss can work as a young female model since her stories are aimed at that audience, but characters like Black Widow are usually relegated as cheesecake, and at their worst they are the male fantasy equivalent of a strong independent woman (ie lots of ass and cheesecake shots, stays behind the stronger male character). Movie Black Widow was indeed a great character, but most of the time she is overshadowed by the wit, strenght and cool factor of the male characters. It IS something, but again not quite there yet.

3) When he talks about good queens in fiction, he forgets a number of them. For example, the White Queen in Alice in Wonderland, Elinor from Brave (yeah, she was part of the conflict, but she did not appear to be the OMG EVIL MEGALOMANIAC stereotype most queens are associated with, all she did was in protection of the kingdom and her family), Queen Miranda from Sofia the First (she is a loving queen that is very caring towards her stepchildren, and on the pilot movie she says "I know there are not many stories about kind hearted stepmothers, but I hope to fix that"), Queen Amidala/Padme from Star Wars (not THE best example, but it is something) among others.

I WILL, however, agree with him about how people have these silly associations with monarchy and there should be variety in character development. A king can be evil, a princess just and a strong ruler and the queen nice and passive. Seeing this also makes me realize why many people hate the Disney Princess line: it puts a label on the Disney characters. He makes a great point about how the Disney princess virtues apply to many of their non-princess characters, yet it is the princesses that get the most criticism. While indeed there have always been comments about fairy tales in general, I think they attack the Disney Princesses because of the princess stigma that has been attached to them.

Like... raise your hand if any of you guys loved the likes of Ariel, Belle, Cinderella, Pocahontas and Mulan BEFORE they were princesses...

Exactly. We knew these characters long before they were "princesses", and we loved them for their virtues, passions and likability. Heck, the famous princess gowns they now constantly wear only appeared in small scenes (though pivotal ones), and we knew Belle mostly as her blue wearing bookworm, Ariel the rebel mermaid, Cinderella the chambermaid with a dream and Mulan as the lovely warrior. Putting the princess title on them, and then advertising them as princesses, it is no surprise that many attack them because of the princess stigma.

Posted: **Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:22 am**

Disneycember is back, this time for live-action films, starting off with Song of the South

Posted: **Sun Dec 01, 2013 11:44 am**

Ooh Song of the South...

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