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Weew! Thanks for posting that, Vermin Friends! I'm sooo glad that Marina has a song in this, unlike Morgana who didn't have one at all in TLM2! I thought that she wouldn't have a song in TLM3 but I'm glad that she does now.

And by the by, is that Sally Field singing for her? I'll be glad if that's her, too. Thanks again

That cements it.

If she's not Ursula I WILL slap someone.

Mostly 'cos I have trouble admitting I'm wrong.

nachonaco wrote:That cements it.

If she's not Ursula I WILL slap someone.

I second that! Well maybe not slap someone...

but yeah, the fact that she uses magic just makes her even more Ursula like..

also, for a breif moment you can see tenticals...perhaps she is Ursula in disguise!!

Thanks, Vermin Friends! Great animation! Nowell Villano also worked in 'Bambi: The Great Prince of the Forest'! I can't wait!

Happy birthday!

I can't hear the darned song because I have no audio. But it seems to prove that Marina can use magic. Only leads me to believe that Marina is Ursula.

I don't think she's Ursula.
Thanks Vermin Friends and happy birthday for you it's very neat to hear a song,I hope that Ariel will have a song and Jodi will sing.
I had some weird thought-You don't think that Jodi will voice Ariel's mother?.

Her mother is voiced by Lorelei Butters!

That short pencil animation clip of Marina is wonderful. There's a lot of emotion going on in there, in her movements - great character animation.

Who is the supervising animator?

P.S. Why does Marina remind me of Madame Medusa from The Rescuers?

Oh,then at least she"ll have a different voice .

Julian Carter wrote:P.S. Why does Marina remind me of Madame Medusa from The Rescuers?

Because she does look like Madame Medusa.

Thank you Vermin Friends ,and a happy birthday!!!

I bet Marina sings 'Just One Mistake'!

I dunno, I have to agree with nachonaco...I'm hoping that she's Ursula in disguise since she does use magic. If you look on the official site, and at her facial movements, everything reminds me of Ursula and it's too coencidentle for Marina's color scheme to be purple when Ursula is also purple...ish. Just my two cents!

OK, this film already makes the TV show non-canon, but it will also make TLM 2 non-canon if Marina becomes Ursula.

Disney, what are you thinking?

mooky_7_sa wrote:OK, this film already makes the TV show non-canon, but it will also make TLM 2 non-canon if Marina becomes Ursula.

Disney, what are you thinking?

Well, right now, no one has proof either way if she is or isnt Ursula. So don't get too het up at Disney when this may not be the case at all !

Thank you for the clip; it seems to be really great animation. I'm so happy about this ! Interesting the artist worked on Bambi II as well.

And happy birthday!

mooky_7_sa wrote:OK, this film already makes the TV show non-canon, but it will also make TLM 2 non-canon if Marina becomes Ursula.

But that would be an even better reason for her to be Ursula!

Not that this prequel will be entirely awesome, but at least it won't just take the original storyline and dress it in new and unflattering ways. Also, I'm glad I'm not the only one seeing this. Not that we couldn't turn out to be wrong, but I seriously doubt it. The voice change of Triton is really the biggest clue that set me off. I seriously doubt Kenneth Mars would not do this film (when he's done the first sequel, House of Mouse and even Kingdom Hearts). I think Sally Field is just a way to cleverly disguise the character while also sounding similar enough to Pat Carrol to be an understandable former voice.

Thanks so much for the birthday wishes, guys! lol And I'm glad you guys like the video, too! I love it!

xxhplinkxx wrote:Oh man, that's awesome! I wonder how they got that.

I'm pretty sure the YouTube account belongs to the animator. If you look at the name at the bottom left-hand corner of the video, and then check up on his account profile, it's the same. And, he has some previews of some of his other works, too.

As for the continuing discussion of Marina being Ursula, this could go three ways:

1) She's not Ursula at all, but just inspired by the character- as sort of a "final tribute" to the sea witch. Like how in TV shows based on movies, there's usually a character- usually a big villain, who is heavily based on a villain from the film. Besides, why would Marina change her name to Ursula? And if Marina turns into Ursula, how do we explain Morgana, who is an octopus (squid, whatever), whereas Marina is a mermaid?

2) She is Ursula, after all, Ursula talked about the days when she lived in the palace, she has two eels who resemble the eels that Marina released, and aside from her very (VERY) similar appearance, she also sings and practices magic.

3) We're never going to find out. It could be something like, Triton punishes her, or she escapes, or something, but we never find out what happens to her, where she goes, etc.

This film really has to end bittersweet if it ties into the original film at all. As many of you noted, Flounder has a big change in character, and if #1 or #3 (listed above) actually happens, it's definitely going to have a bittersweet end.

I think they should also include a scene where Ariel goes up to the surface, near the end. If not, then Triton should ban music and going to the surface- but only allow the former at the end of the film.

Or

4) She's Ursula in disguise - she knows they'll recognize her in the kingdom so she takes some potion and changes both hers and the eels' appearance and takes a job as a new babysitter to mermaid princesses.

mooky_7_sa wrote:Or

4) She's Ursula in disguise - she knows they'll recognize her in the kingdom so she takes some potion and changes both hers and the eels' appearance and takes a job as a new babysitter to mermaid princesses.

Hmm... this could actually work into the trilogy.

That and at least one of the outfits (I think) resembles early concept art for Ursula.