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Purchased my copy, found the dvds stacked *err* I switched cases with Sorcerer's Apprentice 3 disc set. But I'm pretty much happy with this release, lookin forward to Rescuers' 2 movie collection

So, is this release worth getting, or do you think there'll be a better release down the road (sans cheapquel)? I'm one of the few die-hard FatH fans out there, and I want the best release possible. I read the DVDizzy review, but I was curious about your guys' take on it.

Well aside from the rest of the bonuses ending up on the dvds, I'd go ahead and purchase this if you missed out on Fox/Hound: 25th. The pic restoration was great, didn't see the "crop" that people were talkin bout, then again i might've missed it.

I'd perfer an in depth Makin Of doc, Lambert The Sheepish Lion and the other dvd bonus, this release could've be a 2 disc if they added Fox/Hound 2 on the 1st film's dvd along with the Unlikely friends bonus

Linden wrote:So, is this release worth getting, or do you think there'll be a better release down the road (sans cheapquel)? I'm one of the few die-hard FatH fans out there, and I want the best release possible. I read the DVDizzy review, but I was curious about your guys' take on it.

Personally if I were a die-hard fan, I'd buy it regardless of whether better versions may appear "down the road", and I'd purchase that copy too

Disney will probably take half a decade - decade before re-releasing it.

Looks like Disney rushed this release. I wonder if there will be a recall/replacement, or another release outside the US will be better? I heard Mexico will be releasing it without part 2. If that's true and it has a better transfer maybe a import is in order... depending on price.

I just don't understand why the Disney Movie Club version came in a 3 disc case, while the one in the store has the terrible 2 disc packaging with the stacked DVDs. Very lazy on Disney's part, and I hope its not a sign of things to come for titles not in the Diamond Line, etc...

For now I'm going to hold off on this release.

Got my copy in the mail today and very happy with it. As some have said there are some moments of slight blur but that also occurred in the restoration of the Snow White blu ray and there it was far more often and noticeable. Have not watched this film in years but do not regret buying it. It is a beautiful movie and for the first time ever it made me cry, during 'Goodbye Forever Farewell', a little bit at the end with the Tod and Copper voice-overs and weirdly in the bear fight. Lets just say in general I was really engaged and got lost in this movie. I felt so much emotion as a viewer and it made me think this movie really means more to adults then it probably does for kids cause we have all had/experience that friendship that means so much to us that at one point we felt could stand the test of time. I recently got back in contact with an old friend I had fallen out with and we had this amazing night hanging out just like old times and it felt like no time had past at all when it had been two years since we had the falling out. So I think that's why this movie means more to me now. Because really its a movie dealing with themes only adults can truly understand.

Disney Live On wrote:Got my copy in the mail today and very happy with it. As some have said there are some moments of slight blur but that also occurred in the restoration of the Snow White blu ray and there it was far more often and noticeable.

A few posters were commenting on the "blur" over at Blu-ray.com, but like you mentioned, that is present in a few of the other Disney classics on Blu-ray, too. I've seen softer scenes in Snow White (as you mentioned) and Bambi, so it's not like this is the first time. Things like that are probably inherent to the original print and are either impossible or extremely hard to fix during restoration without messing with things too much.

After all the mediocre reviews came out regarding the quality of this release, I hesitated and almost thought of not getting it, but the fact of the matter is that people over-exaggerate and the quality is probably not as "bad" as they say. Plus, I doubt Disney is going to release this film again for a while, even with all the complaining about the sequel.

My pre-order finally shipped from Amazon today (I used free shipping), so I should probably have it early next week!

i didnt notice the blur really. the transfer is a solid effort.
better than fotr anyway.

New interview with Mickey Rooney!:

http://www.toonzone.net/news/articles/3 ... -the-hound

My package is out for delivery today, looking forward to being able to watch this soon!

Those of you who say that there is a "blur" in the movie, and other Disney movies you watch, need to have your Blu-ray players checked. According to most owners manuals, Blu-ray players need to have the reader cleaned every ten to twenty hours of use for maximum response. This can be done very easily by purchasing a Blu-ray reader cleaning disc for about $20. It will talk you through what needs to be done and takes less than two minutes to do.

I have another complaint about some of you who talk about quality of Blu-ray reproduction. You must watch your movies 'one frame at a time' because I have never seen anything that you speak of about "Fox & the Hound" or any other Disney title you "critics" complain about. Why not just put the disc in the player, and pop your popcorn, and sit back and let the movie entertain you. I don't understand what enjoyment you get out of watching a movie in 'stop-motion' just to find any little artifact or glitch that might appear. If they show up while watching the film at regular speed, then you may have a complaint, but otherwise, let those who get paid for being a critic, voice what they have to say.

Luke is a pretty good film critic, and I don't see him criticizing these films the way some of you "wannabe's" do.

Just sit back and enjoy the movie. You might shocked that it is so much more fun that way.

Gosho, just because you don't get paid for doing something, doesn't mean your shouldn't be allowed to state your opinions/disappointments.

I agree with your statement to just sit back and enjoy, but I feel you went too far. Btw the blurriness isn't due to dusty BD players, its due to cells not being pressed down against the background or something. Thats why they only happen during specific scenes.

I know I said I wasn't going to buy this quite yet, but I broke down and bought the combo pack today from Best Buy (who offered it at the lowest price). I did not use the coupon. Here is my opinion:

About the packaging, I am kind of annoyed about them cheaping out on the case by stacking the dvds on top of one another, but I already own the first TFATH on DVD (the 25th AE) and I have no intention of watching the sequel ever on blu-ray or dvd. Maybe I will see if I have a case to swap it with (only if it's a movie I don't care too much about). The one good thing I will say about the packaging is that they did not use one of those stupid eco-friendly cases to add insult to injury,

I have not watched the movie on Blu-Ray yet, so I cannot say anything about how the video quality is. There were 250 points with this release for Disney Movie Rewards, which I thought was kind of cool.

dvdjunkie wrote:Bitch! Bitch! Bitch!!! That's all I am reading about this 30th Anniversary release. You guys should all go get jobs at Disney because it sounds like you are all qualified to just that.

I just purchased the Blu-ray/DVD Combo Pack at Best Buy, and, yes, the DVD's are stacked on the left side with the Blu-ray on the right. If you take care of your discs that should be no problem. Besides if you buy it this way, chances are you aren't going to watch the DVD version anyway, so just quit griping about it and enjoy the fact that you are getting this film released, when it looked like it wasn't even on the schedule a year ago.

Unless you are qualified to get a job at Disney and have applied and interviewed for the job, just quit the whining and enjoy the movie. You probably wouldn't know what aspect ratios are anyway, it just something you read in a book or on the internet, so you are jumping on the bandwagon and waving your flag.

dvdjunkie wrote:Those of you who say that there is a "blur" in the movie, and other Disney movies you watch, need to have your Blu-ray players checked. According to most owners manuals, Blu-ray players need to have the reader cleaned every ten to twenty hours of use for maximum response. This can be done very easily by purchasing a Blu-ray reader cleaning disc for about $20. It will talk you through what needs to be done and takes less than two minutes to do.

I have another complaint about some of you who talk about quality of Blu-ray reproduction. You must watch your movies 'one frame at a time' because I have never seen anything that you speak of about "Fox & the Hound" or any other Disney title you "critics" complain about. Why not just put the disc in the player, and pop your popcorn, and sit back and let the movie entertain you. I don't understand what enjoyment you get out of watching a movie in 'stop-motion' just to find any little artifact or glitch that might appear. If they show up while watching the film at regular speed, then you may have a complaint, but otherwise, let those who get paid for being a critic, voice what they have to say.

Luke is a pretty good film critic, and I don't see him criticizing these films the way some of you "wannabe's" do.
Just sit back and enjoy the movie. You might shocked that it is so much more fun that way.

Your posts are bizarre.

In no way shape or form does anyone have to be an employee of Disney to have the authority to complain about a product. As a paying customer, anyone purchasing the product has the right to say whatever they want. Before the release of the Fox and the Hound, Disney was the gold standard for older/catalog films on Blu-ray. Period. Their Blu-ray releases were known for having meticulous, breathtaking, flawless transfers. Even Dumbo and Alice in Wonderland were praised for their brilliant transfers despite not being a part of the coveted Diamond Edition line.

The Fox in the Hound is the end of the that. Maybe everyone's biggest mistake was expecting that meticulous transfer for a C-list DAC that Disney never cared much about in the past.

Regardless, your ridiculous posts where you are b!tching about everyone's warranted complaints are weird.

Considering the vast majority of reviews and comments from people all over the web, and hardly just this forum, all indicate a weak transfer in compared to previous DACs, clearly you are wrong. No one here needs their Blu-ray player checked, you need your eyes checked. If you can honestly say that this transfer is on the same level as AIW, Dumbo, Fantasia, and Bambi, I strongly suggest your call your eye doctor asap.

seanjonmc wrote:

No one here needs their Blu-ray player checked,

First of all, I didn't say you don't have the right to complain about a product. That's insane. You should see the amount of letters I send out complaining about products that are inferior.

I am saying how can you see something as minute as one scene that may or may not have a blur in it. I have never seen any of these, but that's probably because I don't scan my DVD or Blu-ray one frame at a time like some people apparently do. I watch a movie the way it is supposed to be watched, and I enjoy the fact that I don't have to go sit in a movie theater and can watch it when and how often I want.

Your remark about cleaning a player is way off base. EVERYONE should clean their Blu-ray player or DVD player lens after no more than 20 hours of playback. Read your instruction manual, it says that in black and white. I follow all the instructions in the maintenance of my Blu-ray player, my PS3 and my DVD Recorder. That's why I don't have to go out and replace them every year or so from lack of attention.

And if you ask Luke or any of the other contributors here about how often they clean their blu-ray or DVD lens, they will probably tell you the same thing I said. After about 20 hours of playback.

Please don't think I don't know what I am talking about, because I have had a lot more experience with things like this than you will ever have.

And let's all quit scanning our discs one frame at a time to spot any deficiencies in the product. Just push play and enjoy!!!!

dvdjunkie wrote:[Please don't think I don't know what I am talking about, because I have had a lot more experience with things like this than you will ever have.

WTF does that even mean? Are you sentencing people who doubt you to an early grave or something? What a pompous thing to say.

dvdjunkie wrote:And let's all quit scanning our discs one frame at a time to spot any deficiencies in the product. Just push play and enjoy!!!!

You have to understand that many of us here are fans of animation. Yes, we love watching the films just like you, but many like to go through frame by frame, studying the art, animation... and yes, even the faults. There is nothing wrong with that, as you seem to think. If it's not your fancy, then fine... but don't put others down if that is how they like to enjoy a film.

Also, while I agree that if it is recommended to clean your player every so often, it is certainly a good idea to do so. But the blur to the right side of the frame in Fox and the Hound has nothing to do with a bad player. The defect is very much real, and if you ask any avid animation fan they'll tell you that it is because the end of production on FatH was extremely rushed, and when the artists found faults in the captured images, executives passed the scene through regardless, for time and money concerns.

Now, I don't know if this is something that Disney CAN fix, since it is indeed on the actual print of the film, or if it something they just don't really care enough to do so. But to claim that everyone else is crazy, when clearly the majority of respected sites and critics have pointed the faults out, is pointless.

While I think it's silly that the tiny faults take away from some people's enjoyment of the film, that is up to them, not you dvdjunkie. Personally, I enjoy the faults, because it makes the film seem much more "real" to me... you can see actual history at the studio when you watch it.

dvdjunkie wrote:Those of you who say that there is a "blur" in the movie, and other Disney movies you watch, need to have your Blu-ray players checked. According to most owners manuals, Blu-ray players need to have the reader cleaned every ten to twenty hours of use for maximum response. This can be done very easily by purchasing a Blu-ray reader cleaning disc for about $20. It will talk you through what needs to be done and takes less than two minutes to do.

1. what does that have to do with PQ? and 2.i never did that with my PS3 and it looks as good as ever. i doubt my llc would even fit in the slot.

Note to ajmrowland:

I just follow directions. And if you haven't cleaned your lens after every 20 hours, you are probably just getting used to the picture. One cleaning and you will be surprised at how much difference it makes.

I, unlike a lot of you "know-it-alls" follow directions to the letter. That's why equipment I bought several years ago (vhs, stereo amp) still runs like new today. There aren't a lot of people who can say that about their equipment.

And what slot are you talking about on your PS3. You must have a slim line, and yes, that is a little hard to get the cleaning disc in, but it does slide in naturally.

Please don't call me out on things like this. I learned a long time ago about taking care of my equipment, my movies, now my DVD's and Blu-rays. You will not find any of my DVD's or Blu-ray scratched or un-playable. I read all the time about people's complaints about their disc getting scratched, and nine times out of ten it is from mishandling, or letting someone handle the equipment that doesn't know what they are doing.

So...dvdjunkie....what do you think would work for an original PS3 to clean the lenses....(not the new slim one)

Also sorry for going off topic