Trailer reaction:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jDNgiogcF4
D23ExpoVisitor25 wrote: ↑Wed Sep 21, 2022 5:24 pm
I don't know if that's true. Maybe it is, but I do know Qui Nguyen worked on Strange World, prior to having re-write Raya and the Last Dragon.
I learned that some days ago. It's really interesting that he started working on this film first. I though he had been first hired by Disney to work on
Raya since he's of Vietnamese descent, and then he continued working for the studio on another film, but it's actually the opposite. It's curious that when Jennifer Lee decided to replace
Raya's original directors and add a screenwriter, she chose people who were already working on other projects instead of ones that were free. Don and Qui were making this movie and Carlos López Estrada his personal project. Maybe she liked the job they were doing and that's why she trusted them to save
Raya?
Disney's Divinity wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:15 am
I agree, this is being marketed as a "boy's film," they were going to advertise either Wreck-It Ralph or Big Hero 6--the last "boy's films" they made. And then tag on Encanto because it was their most recent success; much like with The Lion King, they can't coast on Frozen forever.
I also agree. I think that was exactly the reasoning behind choosing those titles.
Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:17 am
The composition of the poster and the shading of the characters remind me of posters for The Road to El Dorado and Sinbad: Legend of the Seven Seas.
It also reminds me of these two posters:
Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:17 am
The dynamic between the three generations of Clades feels very safe and formulaic. Searcher will learn to be less protective of his son and let him pursue his own interests and he and his dad will learn to appreciate each other and the different set of skills and worldview they each bring to the table, and they will all become closer by the end.
I agree it's very predictable, but so are other family relationships in Disney movies, like Anna and Elsa's in
Frozen, for example, not to mention the romantic ones. I still find it interesting, though. I especially like it because it feels fresh for a WDAS movie, as there hasn't been any about three generations of the same family before.
Encanto was similar, but there it was mainly about the relationship between Mirabel and Abuela Alma. Although, it's true that the way Searcher's father raised him having a big effect on how he raises his own child, does remind a lot of
Encanto.
Anyway, that aspect of the movie looks good to me, but we'll have to see how it's executed in the film. Right now, Searcher and Ethan look likeable to me, but Jaeger not so much. However, I guess he'll also have a softer side, which will be explored in the film. That portrait of him and his wife with Searcher as a baby makes me suspect he lost his wife quite early and had to raise Searcher on his own, and that probably has something to do with their relationship being difficult. Speaking of these two characters, it seems this movie is also partly based on something personal for one of the directors:
The world created here is quite creative, and a seemingly impressive blend of sci-fi, adventure, and the charming dynamic of the family has me curious for what’s to come. And with a cast that includes Gyllenhaal, Young-White, Union, Quaid, Tudyk, and the impressive Lucy Liu as Callisto Mal, Disney may have something magical on their hands. From the footage shown and the clear personal touch of Hall’s own relationship with his father and sons.
“My dad and I have a great relationship. He is a farmer, and I grew up helping out. But when I was 14 years old, it all changed. Suddenly, I was planting and doing more high-level stuff that I just didn’t want to do. It wasn’t me. It all turned out fine, but I always remembered that and thought it would be interesting to explore father/son relationships and the kind of expectations we put on our kids – intentionally or unintentionally.”
Source: https://www.joblo.com/joblo-gets-an-ear ... nge-world/
Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 11:17 am
You'd think she'd look more like her voice actress like it usually happens in animation, but unfortunately that's not the case here.
Actually, none of the voice actors look too much like their characters in this movie. Well, except maybe Ethan. I think the voices work well for their appearances, though.
Sotiris wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 12:54 pm
They're not trying to sabotage it. They just know they have a dud in their hands and are trying to mitigate its probable failure by sandwiching it between guaranteed hits.
I think that's likely. I hope the same is not true regarding
Disenchanted.
DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:47 pm
It`s remarkable that the movies that were promoted were
Big Hero 6 and
Encanto. It`s fine that they`re not using
Frozen anymore, since
Frozen is a different genre
But it`s remarkable how they`re using
Encanto, when a more relevant example would`ve been either
Zootopia or even
Wreck-it-Ralph (for having a male demographic).
That's true, but they already had
Big Hero 6 for the male demographic. They also needed something for the female one.
DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:47 pm
The "I`m a huge fan... of your dad" joke was lame and felt out of place.
Well, I admit the guy asking Searcher to forge his father's signature didn't make much sense, but the joke still made me laugh.
DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:47 pm
I liked that poster! I liked the poses, the colors and the overall vibe of it.
Personally, I neither loved it nor hated it, but one thing I did like is that the differences between the three character's personalities are evident by their expressions and poses.
DisneyEra wrote: ↑Thu Sep 22, 2022 2:00 pm
If Raya & Encanto are gonna use the Pandemic as an excuse for their low Box Office, then we have to excuse Atlantis & Treasure Planet too. Atlantis failed because of Shrek 1 & the Live-Action Tomb Raider. Treasure Planet failed because it went heads up against the Harry Potter sequel Chamber of Secrets.
Also, 2D animation wasn't doing good back in the early 2000s. Other than Lilo & Stitch & Hayao Miyazaki films, every studio had a 2D bomb. They had no chance against Ice Age, Shrek & Pixar films.
And what about Lightyear? Did the pandemic hurt that film too? And how did Minions 2 gross over $900 million this summer? I'm tired of the 2020 features using the pandemic as an excuse for their low Box Office, but the early 2000 features, no excuses, they just were bad & killed 2D animation.
Lightyear's case actually reminds me a lot of
Atlantis and
Treasure Planet's. I think the mistake all of them made is focusing too much on attracting teenagers and adults in their marketing campaigns and they lost their main audience in the process. I don't think
Strange World has the same problem, but we'll see.
