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This is fascinating! However, I suppose it won't make much sense for me to upgrade since I don't have a widescreen TV at home...

You're not one of those who worry about "black bars", are you?

Julian Carter wrote:This is fascinating! However, I suppose it won't make much sense for me to upgrade since I don't have a widescreen TV at home...

Neither do I, but I'm still upgrading!
I love Widescreen!

Lars Vermundsberget wrote:You're not one of those who worry about "black bars", are you?

LOL! NO!!

It's just that for people with widescreen TVs, this will be better as they will finally be able to take advantage of their widescreen TV, even though some artwork is lost. With me, any version is fine, but with fullscreen I get a full picture on my TV, whereas with the Widescreen version, the picture will just look the same (not any larger), but with pieces of the artwork missing on the top and bottom (being replaced with black bars).

At least, I don't think I'll upgrade until we get a widescreen TV (which probably will not be until the next 20 years).

In my country, only 12% of the population has a widescreen LCD or Plasma TV.

Same here in Germany. Only a few actually own a widescreen tv, but still I'm annoyed by the black bars on a normal tv.

Billy Moon wrote:But the 4:3 pan&scan version will also have black bars on a 16:9 TV, assuming you watch it in the correct ratio.

And that's exactly the point. Most people don't watch it in 4:3. They own a widescreen tv, so the entire screen must be filled (the picture will be stretched). With 2.35:1 films, you still have black bars in your picture, so they'll watch the pan&scan version in a stretched image.
At our home, we have one widescreen tv, and two fullscreen tvs. I'm not bothered at all by black bars. In fact, I think people who are annoyed by them, should focus more on the film itself.

KubrickFan wrote:In fact, I think people who are annoyed by them, should focus more on the film itself.

Good luck with that one.
In my experience, most peolple don't care at all what the picture looks like, as long as it fills their screen.

Yes, people definitely should focus on the movie, not "bars". However, there's really no reason for me to care about what people do with their DVDs in their own homes - but I want mine with correct aspect ratios.

It somewhat surprises me, though, that so many people seemingly never saw "black bars" until the arrival of DVD. Myself, I can honestly not remember ever having noticed "black bars" for the first time.

I did when I watched Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's stone on my normal fullscreen tv for the first time, but after some time I got used to it. It just annoys me at the beginning of the movie, but then I concentrate on the movie, not the picture.

Billy Moon wrote:Good luck with that one.
In my experience, most peolple don't care at all what the picture looks like, as long as it fills their screen.

Then there should be some featurette on the DVDs that explain why the widescreen/fullscreen (depending on the film) version is the preferred version. Or they only put the intended version on the disc. You said that people don't care which version they have, as long as it fills the screen.

yea watch the one on the sleeping beauty special edition dvd. its amazing how much more picture you get on the widescreen version! I cant stand when people dont think widescreen is better. but everyone has there own opinion.. heheheeh!

I just went to the Robin Hood official site and it said that the "Most Wanted Edition" will have more than 1 deleted scene contain an art gallery and be presented in 1.75:1 widescreen!
when I first read about the DVD it said that it would be 1.33:1 to reflect the academy ratio filming, but now it will apparently be presented in its matted thatrical form.
I thought disney would always want to have the unmatted ratio. does anybody else know anything about this?

Maybe the movie will have a widescreen and a fullscreen viewing option?!? That would be great, you know I love when movies have both playing options, I wish they gave both options for more films. Does anyone know what the bonus features are going to be exactly, or if they will be any good?? I don't own Robin Hood yet, so I will buy it reguardless, but I was just curious.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:I just went to the Robin Hood official site and it said that the "Most Wanted Edition" will have more than 1 deleted scene contain an art gallery and be presented in 1.75:1 widescreen!
when I first read about the DVD it said that it would be 1.33:1 to reflect the academy ratio filming, but now it will apparently be presented in its matted thatrical form.
I thought disney would always want to have the unmatted ratio. does anybody else know anything about this?

Yup, we did know about this. We have been discussing Robin Hood for quite some time. Here is where we started talking about the ratio. http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/vie ... &start=160 If you scroll down you will find where the discovery was made on Robin Hood's ratio.

thanks when I first read the thread nobody had mentioned widescreen yet but now that I know you did I feel knid of stupid

from watching the trailer, the video doesn't exactly look like "new digital restoration."

I love Robin Hood. it was one of my favourite breaks between littler mermaid. (when I was little, I was convinced that the Little Mermaid was IT - everything else was long commerical breaks until i could see it again). now from an adult perspective, I still enjoy it very much; but really have to wonder why in nearly all Disney movies where its a human, why Robin Hood was dicpicted by animals.

about the widescreen discussion - I had refused to really upgrade. I didn't have a dvd player, and most things were widescreen, and I'll admit, i was bothered by the black bars. on my t.v (regardless of where I watch), they were always there. But now every show is practically shot in widescreen, and most dvds are automatically like that as well. I don't mind much anymore, I just watch the movie. what does irk me if 2 movies are done in full, and the rest of the series are done in wide (yeah; Harry Potter I'm talking to you).

lapniappe wrote:what does irk me if 2 movies are done in full, and the rest of the series are done in wide (yeah; Harry Potter I'm talking to you).

3 and 4 are available in fullscreen...

Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Pan & Scam

Harry Potter and the Goblet of Pan & Scan

While it's still just a matter of opinion/taste, I will never *ever* understand how black bars can bother people. I mean...it's all just a matter of keeping your eyes on the movie, and not having them wander to the bars.

Escapay

yeah seriouley i never even pay attention to the black bars... i figure its better to see more on the sides then to see just a small amount on the top and bottom.

But the question of AR is forst and foremost a question of what's the right one for that particular movie (although, admittedly, in a few cases more than just one might be considered "right").