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Steamboat Willie Pete is on the poster (behind Gaston). Why would you want Prince John/Sir Hiss removed?

Disney's Divinity wrote:Steamboat Willie Pete is on the poster (behind Gaston). Why would you want Prince John/Sir Hiss removed?

Oh you're right. Even after you told me, it still took me a second to notice him.

I find the Robin Hood movie to be incredibly derivative as a whole, and that includes the Sir Hiss character even though I think he and Prince John are the highlight of the film. Prince John, when compared to the other Disney Villains, is more like Edgar than Hook or Cruella. Fine on his own, but feels out of place otherwise.

JeanGreyForever wrote:

Mooky wrote: Wow, that one is very interesting and quite unusual given the fact they included villains from TV shows as well. That would be unheard of nowadays (as would any villain group shot, I reckon).

A couple of questions though -- who is the green lizard with a pink hat between Madam Mim, Maleficent and Medusa, and where is Gaston? His name is on the side of the picture, but I can't find him for the life of me. The artist also could have put some body of water in the picture so Flotsam and Jetsam would not look out of place (Ursula too, I guess).

That explains why there are several villains I don't recognize because the Disney Afternoon era was before my time.

Strange, I thought I remember seeing Gaston somewhere at the top like the Beast but now I can't find him. As for the green lizard, that is Joana from Rescuers Down Under. McLeach is a little bit to the right of her. I'm not a fan of the movie (it's nothing like the original Rescuers which is one of my favs) so their presence does nothing for me.

I think Mooky wasn't referring to Joanna, but to the lizard that is on the balcony on the left of the image. He's one of Fat Cat's henchmen from Chip 'n Dale: Rescue Rangers.



As for Gaston, I think he isn't there. Unless the skull and bones in the lower right corner is all that's left of him after falling from Beast's castle and being devoured by the wolves.

JeanGreyForever wrote:There are some odd choices here though as well like the Beast, the vultures from Jungle Book, and the crows from Dumbo.

They may be antagonistic at first in their respective films but they clearly aren't villains. The Cheshire Cat is also an odd choice.

Not sure why the vultures/crows would be included besides looking evil enough for a Villain poster, but at least Beast actually was an antagonist at the beginning of the film. I'd say nearly every character in Alice in Wonderland is an antagonist, including the Cheshire Cat.

Prince Edward wrote:I continue to be amazed by how Disney themselves are neglecting many of their classic movies by not trying to keep them in the public eye and in people's minds...

Fully agreed. As a fan of classic Disney, I find it madding how the brand is being handled these days. Disney is so focused on acquisitions, they are neglecting their home grown IP's with a very thin exception (i.e. Princesses, Mickey Mouse, Winnie the Pooh, etc.).

Look, I have nothing against Marvel or Star Wars; in fact I count myself a huge fan of Marvel. However, I'm sad that Disney is so focused on those properties at the expense of things like Hercules, Pollyanna or Gummi Bears, just to name but a few. Oh well. My feeling is pray for as much of the classic brand to get released on DVD and Blu-ray and then who cares after that? Disney sure doesn't.

Disney's Divinity wrote:I'd say nearly every character in Alice in Wonderland is an antagonist, including the Cheshire Cat.

Well, that's true, but they aren't usually considered villains (I think). And in Tim Burton's version the Cheshire Cat is one of Alice's friends.

D82 wrote:

Disney's Divinity wrote:I'd say nearly every character in Alice in Wonderland is an antagonist, including the Cheshire Cat.

Well, that's true, but they aren't usually considered villains (I think). And in Tim Burton's version the Cheshire Cat is one of Alice's friends.

Disney actually used the Chesire Cat on their Disney Villain merchandise for a long time. I think they stopped when the Tim Burton movie came out, probably because he is clearly good in that film. Actually the Cheshire Cat is a generally morally ambiguous character in most adaptations I've seen as he can either be good, bad, or neutral.

JeanGreyForever wrote:Disney actually used the Chesire Cat on their Disney Villain merchandise for a long time. I think they stopped when the Tim Burton movie came out, probably because he is clearly good in that film. Actually the Cheshire Cat is a generally morally ambiguous character in most adaptations I've seen as he can either be good, bad, or neutral.

Interesting. I didn't know Disney used to have him included in the Villains franchise. For me, most of the characters of Disney's Alice in Wonderland are antagonistic in the sense that they don't help Alice, but quite the opposite. But I always attributed their behaviour to the fact that they were all mad and didn't think they were evil. But I can see why they can be viewed as villains too. Especially The Cheshire Cat, who is responsible for making Alice go to the trial, for example.

Do anyone know more about this Sleeping Beauty pin?

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(Trying to upload a picture from my phone, help please. I just get "Error: Board attachment quota has been reached")

Maybe you can upload your picture to a website like TinyPic. When you do that, you get a link which you can then post here.
http://tinypic.com/