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How did the Lion King thing go down. I've had other people try to tell me Disney stole the idea before (from that one Anime or something). I informed them of their real inspirations (like making a second Bambi, Hamlet, and the Moses).

Really, how did it all go down?

(I think the nemo one is absurd, and he's ugly)

Yeah, I mean who would have thought of an African story using a name like "Simba" for its lion?!

I remember an old episode of Scooby Doo where Shaggy was in a cage with a circus lion and he held up a stool and a whip and said, "Down Simba!" or something like that.

As much as I liked Lion King, Simba's name bugged me. Where the the originality? So his parents named him Lion? It's like me naming my daughter Human or Girl. At least with Rafiki, Mufasa, Pumbaa, Shenzi, etc they had more interesting names that described their personality, not their species.

Imagine that movie being translated in Swahili. I wonder if they think it was stupid to name him Lion.

Siren wrote:As much as I liked Lion King, Simba's name bugged me. Where the the originality? So his parents named him Lion? It's like me naming my daughter Human or Girl. At least with Rafiki, Mufasa, Pumbaa, Shenzi, etc they had more interesting names that described their personality, not their species.

Imagine that movie being translated in Swahili. I wonder if they think it was stupid to name him Lion.

I've also wondered a similar thing about The Jungle Book. Apparently, Baloo and Bagheera are the Hindi words for Bear and Panther. I've wondered if Disney still called them this if they released TJB in India or would they call them Bear or Panther to sound exotic. Well, maybe not exotic as the words bear and panther don't sound like they came from Asia...

Well Disney can't get the blame for Jungle Book's names. Rudyard Kipling came up with those names while he lived in India. Mowgli means "frog" by the way. I DEFFINETLY recommend you read it. I forget the jackal's name, but it meant "Dish-Licker". I always liked him. And the wolves have a bigger part in the book. The book is 100 times better then the movie. I mean, Disney's adaption was great, but not totally true to the original book. The book is more interesting. Chuck Jone's version of Mowgli's Brothers was more true to the book. That's on VHS and you can get it through ebay or Amazon. Rikki Tikki Tavi and the White Seal are also included in The Jungle Book. Chuck Jones did both those too and they were wonderful adaptations.

There was a time where Disney's Jungle Book was to be more dramatic and true to Kipling's, but then Baloo became more jazzy and the addition of a just as jazzy King Louie made it more of a musical comedy with some drama.

But you HAVE to read the book.

I dont recall Jungle Book ever being dramatic early on. I remember reading Walt gave only one instruction on the production: mowgli has to return to village, does not want to, he runs away, others go find him, lots of songs, a villian, happy end. Wich only goes to show how Walt really didn't have any big influence on those last few films. With the exception of Mary Poppins of course.

I've read in several places it was to be dramatic. Also saw artwork too. The art was much darker. I believe in the book, "The Disney That Never Was". Don't have it anymore though. Sold it on ebay

W can safely say that there were nothing behind the aligations about those two movies beeing copyes (Lion King and Nemo).

If so had been proven there would have been large settlements and the media would have loved to write a lot about it. Now the media only write about the sick alligations and stop writing about them when they never go to court or the court rules in their disfavour.

Siren wrote:I've read in several places it was to be dramatic. Also saw artwork too. The art was much darker. I believe in the book, "The Disney That Never Was". Don't have it anymore though. Sold it on ebay

I read that book recently, and I dont remember any art from the Jungle Book in there.

2099net wrote:Clowns are scary. Well, I think so anyway. Remember Pennywise the Clown from IT? Or the Chief Clown from Greatest Show in the Galaxy?

I thought IT was really funny instead of scarry. Clowns always make me laugh especially when its Tim Curry as the clown, he's great. Well I mean the things he did wern't funny but man.