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Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:04 pm**

Iger's done a pretty good job so far. He's the kind of CEO who knows not to interfere with the creative proces. He put Lasseter in charge. how is that bad?

as for the dissapearance of Buena Vista. no big deal. We'll hardly notice it. Films like Wild Hogs will go out under the Touchstone banner.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 2:07 pm**

Wow, Papibear must really have something against Julian!

I didn't find anything wrong with what Julian said. He didn't agree with you Papibear, but he never said your opinions were dumb or claimed that you were ignorant or uneducated on the subject. He just thinks differently than you and I don't see what's wrong with that.

There's no reason for you to take what he's saying and twist it around so much. You don't need to be rude or condescending. You can't have a debate if everyone takes the same side! I would hope that in the future someone of your intelligence would refrain from name-calling and childish behaviour.

Now back to the subject. I guess we'll see where it goes. I suppose Disney doesn't need so many different distribution companies. It just makes things more confusing. Out of all the ones they own though, I'm a bit surprised it's Buena Vista they're getting rid of.. don't they distribute alot of tv shows under that name as well?

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:05 pm**

Thank you so much guys (Disney Duster and Princess Stitch) for sticking up for me!! I don't know what I've done to PapiBear to make him loath me so much - it's like he bears a grudge against me, and it seems to have started ever since I politely defended darth_detoo in the other thread (who also was receiving quite some tongue lashing from PapiBear ... well, I can join him now).

I hope this will make the bloated bombastic Great PapiBear of Houston Texas shut up. (Yeah ... I know - he's gonna get me for this, but I couldn't resist saying it. Maybe he should get a taste of his own medicine

).

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 3:59 pm**

I actually think saying good-bye to BV is a good thing. As some have already said, many people don't even know that the Disney DVDs are released by Buena Vista. Heck, even we call those DVDs Disney DVDs ad not Buena Vista DVDs.
I guess only the "real" Disney stuff which is known to be franchised by Disney will be released under the new Disney Distribution name, and all the other stuff like the movies and ABC TV series will be released by Touchstone or Miramax.

Oh, and Julian: You didn't do anything wrong, and your way of responding was really clever and funny. That was so unneccessary of Papibear to attack you like this!!! You only expressed your opinion, and if Papibear has a problem with that, he should learn to live with it.
I just wanted to tell you that I agree with you 100%

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:35 pm**

Julian Carter wrote:Thank you so much guys (Disney Duster and Princess Stitch) for sticking up for me!! I don't know what I've done to PapiBear to make him loath me so much - it's like he bears a grudge against me, and it seems to have started ever since I politely defended darth_detoo in the other thread (who also was receiving quite some tongue lashing from PapiBear ... well, I can join him now).

I hope this will make the bloated bombastic Great PapiBear of Houston Texas shut up. (Yeah ... I know - he's gonna get me for this, but I couldn't resist saying it. Maybe he should get a taste of his own medicine ).

Nah, I don't bear a grudge, Julian. That's just how I roll. I like how you caught on.

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 10:41 pm**

Dottie wrote:That was so unneccessary of Papibear to attack you like this!!!

There was no "attack." A retort is not an attack. It's a retort. Julian finally understood. Why can't you?

(By the way, it's funny when a German calls what others do an "attack." Ask Poland for clarification.)

Posted: **Mon Apr 30, 2007 11:06 pm**

PapiBear wrote:(By the way, it's funny when a German calls what others do an "attack." Ask Poland for clarification.)

Escapay

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 12:32 am**

Stop picking fights, PapiBear. People don't come here to have their posts and character torn apart. The next time you need to be warned, you'll be suspended. If it still continues, then you will be banned. Neither I nor the other moderators should have to remind someone who's been a member here for four years of UD's one basic rule of respecting fellow posters.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 2:32 pm**

I hope PapiBear does whatever is required to stick around, we need our views to be challenged.

I did not relaize that he's been here for four years! I never heard of him...I joined around 2005, though. I totally thought he was new joining just because of The Frog Princess. He actually got me thinking about that movie and it's good to be educated on what could be wrong with something. May I ask why you went away and then came back now a very active poster, PapiBear?

But umm...that joke about attacking, was that kind of...racist? Or stereotyping of Germans? I don't know my history..

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 2:44 pm**

Disney Duster wrote:But umm...that joke about attacking, was that kind of...racist? Or stereotyping of Germans? I don't know my history..

That was a very sick joke.

Were I German, I would be deeply offended. If worldwide, people still think of Germans as Nazis, and are prejudiced against them, then there's something very wrong indeed. (And I think PapiBear owes Dottie an apology).

PapiBear wrote: Nah, I don't bear a grudge, Julian. That's just how I roll. I like how you caught on.

I don't get it. Why are you suddenly being so friendly?

PapiBear wrote:A retort is not an attack. It's a retort. Julian finally understood.

Understood what?

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 2:46 pm**

Disney Duster wrote:May I ask why you went away and then came back now a very active poster, PapiBear?

Because Prince Eric's been gone since June and Laz's essays are few and far between these days?

Even though I don't always agree with everyone's views, and don't particularly like having to go through long threads that degenerate into personal attacks, it helps keep the forum on its toes and is slightly entertaining to read. Plus, as Justin once said in a WIST a long long time ago:

Better long paragraphs and essays than constant whining about Lady and the Tramp not getting a fricken flap on the slipcover.

Disney Duster wrote:But umm...that joke about attacking, was that kind of...racist? Or stereotyping of Germans? I don't know my history..

See World War II.

Escapay

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 3:17 pm**

PapiBear wrote:
Dottie wrote:That was so unneccessary of Papibear to attack you like this!!!
There was no "attack." A retort is not an attack. It's a retort. Julian finally understood. Why can't you?

(By the way, it's funny when a German calls what others do an "attack." Ask Poland for clarification.)

If I did offend you by saying you attacked Julian I apologize, because I don't wanna get into a fight with you.
Maybe I'm too stupid to understand your sense of humour, but I have the feeling the others didn't either.

And thanks for reminding me of my country's history. I almost forgot.
*sarcasmalarmon*

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 3:18 pm**

Escapay wrote:Even though I don't always agree with everyone's views, and don't particularly like having to go through long threads that degenerate into personal attacks, it helps keep the forum on its toes and is slightly entertaining to read.

Exactly! Couldn't have said it better myself!

Escapay wrote:[See World War II.

Prompted by you, I looked it up: World War II began on September 1,1939 when Germany attacked Poland without a formal declaration of war.

So I suppose it's more of a reference to a negative event on Germany's side.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 3:21 pm**

Disney Duster wrote:So I suppose it's more of a reference to a negative event on Germany's side.

No, it's not just a reference. It's also a very nasty and prejudiced comment (read my above post)

.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 4:36 pm**

Is there anyway we could get back on topic.... I am not liking these negative vibes.... Although I do see how the negative vibes were issued here.....

Anywho I am going to attempt to bring this thread back on topic..

So now they are ditching Buinea Vista... First Disney gets rid of Miramax and Touchstone Pictures and now this??? I am going to start a club... WWWD (aka What would Walt Do?)

I am not sure I like the idea of the Disney Name being on movies such as Kill Bill or The Scary Movies Franchise.... That's what I Thought Buiena Vista was for to keep a boundary between Disney and other movies.... as well as Touchstone and Miramax.... I mean I really don't think Disney should advertise the following like so

"Disney's Desparate Housewives"

It sounds like a Disney Princess Wrestling Match gone horribly wrong...

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 5:38 pm**

hehehe just as me and my brothers been doing for a long time, slapping the disney brand on everything we consume. e.g Disney's Milk, disney's t-shirt, disney's orange tree. its finally coming true! well, i like the name buena vista, it feels special, and it holds an historical significance. but why is it on sites like box office mojo/guru they dont list miramax movies as under buena vista? while they're at it i hope someday theyll come to their sense and ditch the disney.pixar branding, it's not necessary. then they might as well put disney.touchstone, disney.miramax, disney.hollywood also. and how would u present a walt disney animation studios film? disney.disney?

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 8:58 pm**

musicradio77 wrote:That was very sad news. Buena Vista has been around since "Lady and the Tramp" first came out in 1955 under the Buena Vista name. Very sad to see them go. First there was Buena Vista Games and now Disney Interactive Studio, Touchstone TV becomes ABC TV Studio and now, Buena Vista TV is now Walt Disney TV. Look at "The Golden Girls", does Lifetime still carry reruns with the BV name until it renames Walt Disney TV? I see "Home Improvement", "My Wife and Kids" and others shows except movies in syndication is still using the BV name, maybe all of them should be renamed Walt Disney TV. Here is an example of what it looked like originally.

They put the new logo last year since it was first introduced in "Pirates of the Caribbean: Dead Man's Chest" and then right up to the "Bridge to Terabithia". "Pirates of the Caribbean: At World's End" has the same thing in the upcoming film except the trailer. Maybe it's a good idea that they should call it Walt Disney Television with the same new logo as shown in that pic. According to that pic shown, the word "Pictures" should be replaced by the word "Television", but the theatrical version is using the word as "Pictures". That might be a great idea for syndication. Here is what it originally looked.

http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/4218/

i actually thought about that too.
only i think like.. instead it should be called "Walt Disney Television Studios" I don't know why. but like.. they've already got a "Walt Disney Television" thing and they have it in the old logo form. if they did something new, and kept the old thing, i think this one should be called something like "Walt Disney Television Studios" just not "Walt Disney Television."

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 9:29 pm**

disneyboy20022 wrote:So now they are ditching Buinea Vista... First Disney gets rid of Miramax and Touchstone Pictures and now this??? I am going to start a club... WWWD (aka What would Walt Do?) I am not sure I like the idea of the Disney Name being on movies such as Kill Bill or The Scary Movies Franchise.... That's what I Thought Buiena Vista was for to keep a boundary between Disney and other movies.... as well as Touchstone and Miramax.... I mean I really don't think Disney should advertise the following like so

"Disney's Desparate Housewives"

It sounds like a Disney Princess Wrestling Match gone horribly wrong...

Actually disneyboy20022, Disney still owns Mirmax, it's the Weinstein brothers who use to be the head of Mirmax who left and started their own company. It's actually better that they left becuase they were pretty much responsible for every controversial issue in the past for Disney that dealt with Mirmax. And it's not like the Weinsteins are making quality work now anyway.

And Disney hasn't gotten rid of Touchstone either, they're just planning to use it less as Disney has proven they can now use their name for action thrillers very well with the success of Pirates of the Caribbean and National Treasure.

This really should be no big deal. Buena Vista really isn't as important as it was when Walt was alive, or even from his death to the early 80's as Disney was no where near as big as it is now. And instead, titles like "ABC" will take place of Buena Vista for shows like Desperate Housewives, Lost and all those other bleh shows on ABC.

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 10:31 pm**

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:
disneyboy20022 wrote:So now they are ditching Buinea Vista... First Disney gets rid of Miramax and Touchstone Pictures and now this??? I am going to start a club... WWWD (aka What would Walt Do?) I am not sure I like the idea of the Disney Name being on movies such as Kill Bill or The Scary Movies Franchise.... That's what I Thought Buiena Vista was for to keep a boundary between Disney and other movies.... as well as Touchstone and Miramax.... I mean I really don't think Disney should advertise the following like so

"Disney's Desparate Housewives"

It sounds like a Disney Princess Wrestling Match gone horribly wrong...
Actually disneyboy20022, Disney still owns Mirmax, it's the Weinstein brothers who use to be the head of Mirmax who left and started their own company. It's actually better that they left becuase they were pretty much responsible for every controversial issue in the past for Disney that dealt with Mirmax. And it's not like the Weinsteins are making quality work now anyway.

And Disney hasn't gotten rid of Touchstone either, they're just planning to use it less as Disney has proven they can now use their name for action thrillers very well with the success of Pirates of the Caribbean and National Treasure.

This really should be no big deal. Buena Vista really isn't as important as it was when Walt was alive, or even from his death to the early 80's as Disney was no where near as big as it is now. And instead, titles like "ABC" will take place of Buena Vista for shows like Desperate Housewives, Lost and all those other bleh shows on ABC.

Ah Thanks for clearing that up for me.... I guess somewhere i heard wrong that Disney was going to get rid of Miramax or had sold it.... Suppose I heard wrong.... I just hope the Disney name is only on the live action thrillers that have direct disney roots such as Pirates of the Caribbean or The National Treasure which I think for some odd reason it was only rated PG.... Although I gave up on the Movie Ratings System a long time ago... ... I think Pirates is as far as the Disney Name should go.... Because I don't want to see a rated R film associated with the direct Name of Walt Disney Pictures.....I would rather a rated R film or a film that just does not belong via the Disney name be put under helm of Miramax or Touchstone...

Posted: **Tue May 01, 2007 10:33 pm**

Timon/Pumbaa fan wrote:
This really should be no big deal. Buena Vista really isn't as important as it was when Walt was alive, or even from his death to the early 80's as Disney was no where near as big as it is now. And instead, titles like "ABC" will take place of Buena Vista for shows like Desperate Housewives, Lost and all those other bleh shows on ABC.

"bleh"? for real?
i LOVE desperate housewives.

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