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Rumpelstiltskin wrote:

DisneyFan97 wrote:Am really tired of Pixar alaways trying to make the audience cry , the elfs look ugly and the idea of walking around with your dead dad's legs is kind of freaky

Pixar needs to STOP trying make every singel movie really sad.

I actually find the idea of a mute "Cow and Chicken-dad" interesting. As for Pixar making sad movies and trying to make the audience cry, remember that the studio has been run by John Lasseter in all these years, and that he was the one that greenlighted this project and was involved in it till he took a longer vacation. That's one of the reasons I mentioned him in my previous post and wondered if his absence had meant something, or if his philosophy is still deeply rooted in the studio.
Quote from Lasseter:

We make the kind of movies we want to see, we love to laugh, but I also believe what Walt Disney said "For every laugh there should be a tear." I love movies that make me cry, because they're tapping into a real emotion in me, and I always think afterwards "How did they do that?".

But it'the lower half of a cropse unlike Cow and Chicken !

Not that remmber anything about that show.

intersting that despite 18 year of more movies. I don't think Pixar has ever meange top Monster.Inc. Which i cionsider the company's crown jwel and that not a singel one of all Pixar'ss like 20 movies ever has beaten the frist two Shrek movies movies in trems of quality. Then again Shrek 1 and 2 along with Beauty and the Beat and the The Emperor's New Groove i are my four favoriye animated movies of all time !! So really hard act to follow !

DisneyFan97 wrote:intersting that despite 18 year of more movies. I don't think Pixar has ever meange top Monster.Inc. Which i cionsider the company's crown jwel and that not a singel one of all Pixar'ss like 20 movies ever has beaten the frist two Shrek movies movies in trems of quality. Then again Shrek 1 and 2 along with Beauty and the Beat and the The Emperor's New Groove i are my four favoriye animated movies of all time !! So really hard act to follow !

I disagree.
Monsters Inc. is nice enough but Pixar had Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and WALl-E since then and they are Pixar's best in my opinion.

farerb wrote:

DisneyFan97 wrote:intersting that despite 18 year of more movies. I don't think Pixar has ever meange top Monster.Inc. Which i cionsider the company's crown jwel and that not a singel one of all Pixar'ss like 20 movies ever has beaten the frist two Shrek movies movies in trems of quality. Then again Shrek 1 and 2 along with Beauty and the Beat and the The Emperor's New Groove i are my four favoriye animated movies of all time !! So really hard act to follow !

I disagree.
Monsters Inc. is nice enough but Pixar had Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and WALl-E since then and they are Pixar's best in my opinion.

Finding Nemo is also great. But i am not a fan of WALl-E. Sorry i really hope you take no offense !

DisneyFan97 wrote:

farerb wrote: I disagree.
Monsters Inc. is nice enough but Pixar had Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and WALl-E since then and they are Pixar's best in my opinion.

Finding Nemo is also great. But i am not a fan of WALl-E. Sorry i really hope you take no offense !

I don't everyone is allowed to have an opinion.

Honestly i think my first weekend of March might bemuch better spent just rewatching Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) in theaters. I have a feeling I will have battler time doing that than seeing Onward !

wow the botched bring dad back from the dead scenario is very Fullmetal Alchemist. Wasn't expecting that. I just hope we get more fantasy elements and less modern day stuff. I'm getting another Good Dinosaur vibe here, a movie with an interesting concept ruined by bad character design and comedy.

unprincess wrote:I just hope we get more fantasy elements and less modern day stuff. I'm getting another Good Dinosaur vibe here, a movie with an interesting concept ruined by bad character design and comedy.

The Good Dinosaurs is too different to be compared. The basic idea, that dinosaurs never went extinct, is an interesting starting point. But the actual concept; "scared cartoony dinosaur boy living with his family in a primitive agricultural society without any neighbors, meets a human boy that sounds like a human child who makes an attempt to pant in a charming way, have a father to son talk, father dies, son learns life lessons and enjoys looking at great panoramas on his journey" would probably never have worked anyway.

And in my opinion, the last part of the trailer (when the yodeling starts) was actually very funny.

I like the chubby brother's design. Fat guys are cute and deserve more main roles.

But the rest of the movie just screams awfully generic in every corner. Marvel stars, rip-offs that Simpsons Medieval show...

thedisneyspirit wrote:I like the chubby brother's design. Fat guys are cute and deserve more main roles.

But the rest of the movie just screams awfully generic in every corner. Marvel stars, rip-offs that Simpsons Medieval show...

I completely agree on the fat guys being cute and needing more of them sentiment. We should also have fat girls, and Moana was a stride toward that, though she wasn't fat she was just thick. But Chris Pratt's character is so cute. I completely disagree about this film being a rip-off of Disenchantment though.

thedisneyspirit wrote:I like the chubby brother's design. Fat guys are cute and deserve more main roles.

But the rest of the movie just screams awfully generic in every corner. Marvel stars, rip-offs that Simpsons Medieval show...

Both both agre and disagree with you.

I agre the older brother has wayyy nicer degien than the young one. But i actually think using Marvel stars isn't a´bad sign. It common for animated movie ever since Aladdin to pick whaever stars that happen to be the biggest at the time. And let's face it most big stars nowadays are from Marvel movies, Syar Wars movies or old vetrans like Robert Redford ans Helen Merrin that are still siticking around. I mighit change my mind and see this movie ONLY beacuse of Ttom Holland and Chris Pratt and also i love the"Simpsons medieval show".

Episode 2 of the secend season of Disenchantment is one of the funnest tv episode i have ever watch in my life. Right along side every single epsiode of Amazon's Good Omens by the way.

If i watch this movie i will be beacuse of Chris Pratt and Tom Holland and also partly my genaral love of Fantasy ficetion !

I was on board all the way untill the dead half dad thing came along, than i lost amost all interst !

Why did they have to have the lower part of their dad tag along for most of the movie !!!

IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG TURN OFF !

I will however admit that IF they add at least four more actors(or celebrities in general) i like to the voice cast i will change my mind and see it !

That's a promise !

Voice Cast is the MOST imoprant thing for me in an animated movie. I think it's somehow linked to my autism.

With voice acting being a special interest of mine !

Sotiris wrote:

Disney Duster wrote:Oh...I hate the half-dad joke being used as a big motivation for a whole movie!

Yeah, I find the concept a bit off-putting to be honest.

DisneyFan97 wrote:I was on board all the way untill the dead half dad thing came along, than i lost amost all interst !

Why did they have to have the lower part of their dad tag along for most of the movie !!!

IT'S JUST SUCH A BIG TURN OFF !

So glad we agree guys!

Agree with the dad thing. They'll force it to be a dramatic moment, but it'll be hard to take seriously with a pair of legs and some fart jokes in there.

Plus, it's just like you guys said, the humor just seems too wacky and too Unpixarish. If I want to see an animated medieval fantasy film, I want it to genuinely get into the story, not some lame jokes or a mermaid drinking Starbucks and the movie forcing me to think "that's witty". Plus Shrek, Game of Thrones, Disenchantment and Bright have all already commented and "deconstructed" the fantasy formula, so what could Pixar add?

thedisneyspirit wrote:Agree with the dad thing. They'll force it to be a dramatic moment, but it'll be hard to take seriously with a pair of legs and some fart jokes in there.

Plus, it's just like you guys said, the humor just seems too wacky and too Unpixarish. If I want to see an animated medieval fantasy film, I want it to genuinely get into the story, not some lame jokes or a mermaid drinking Starbucks and the movie forcing me to think "that's witty". Plus Shrek, Game of Thrones, Disenchantment and Bright have all already commented and "deconstructed" the fantasy formula, so what could Pixar add?

Although Bright was generally critically panned. I might add.

Disney Duster wrote:Agree with the dad thing. They'll force it to be a dramatic moment, but it'll be hard to take seriously with a pair of legs and some fart jokes in there.
Plus, it's just like you guys said, the humor just seems too wacky and too Unpixarish. If I want to see an animated medieval fantasy film, I want it to genuinely get into the story, not some lame jokes or a mermaid drinking Starbucks and the movie forcing me to think "that's witty". Plus Shrek, Game of Thrones, Disenchantment and Bright have all already commented and "deconstructed" the fantasy formula, so what could Pixar add?

There is a hint of Weekend at Bernie's in this movie. As for the humor, I don't care what kind it is, as long as it is actually funny.
And just a few corrections. It is not a medieval fantasy film, it is happening in a modern society that's just like the present day real world, except the world is populated with fantasy races instead of humans. And about Shrek, Game of Thrones, Disenchantment and Bright; these are very different concept. One is an urban fantasy where mythological creatures lives side by side with humans (critics didn't like it, but apparently enough Netflix members saw it to possibly justify a sequel), Shrek is about a shared world of fairytale characters making fun of the genre, Game of Thrones was epic or high fantasy that was just as much about politics as about magic and the supernatural. And Disenchantment (when it premiered Onward had already been in development for at least a couple of years), which is on the surface has much in common with Shrek, but is its own thing.

Onward is both urban fantasy and a story that takes place in a secondary world. Not sure if it is about deconstructing the fantasy genre, but by using elements and concepts from fantasy, only your imagination is the limit for how many different stories that's possible.

I think this hasn't been posted, Chris Pratt and Tom Holland react to the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMT7QhB45yA

And we finally know which character Octavia Spencer voices in the movie, the Manticore. Here are a still and some details about the character:

In Disney and Pixar’s “Onward,” brothers Ian and Barley seek an ancient map from the Manticore—once a mighty warrior whose tavern served as a waystation for travelers embarking on epic quests. Part lion, part bat and part scorpion, the Manticore has adapted to changing times—but her adventurous spirt still lurks within.

Source: https://www.jayssweetnsourlife.com/disney-pixar-onward/

It turns out that the Manticore is based on a Persian mythological creature that has combined various animal elements throughout its history — but Pixar has landed on combining a lion, scorpion, bat, and a human (according to a recent interview with Scanlon in Empire Magazine – Nov 2019).

“It’s too much stuff, smashed together! (laughs) The Manticore is a lion, a scorpion, a bat, and a human. I love the awkward nature of that. It lent itself to comedy really well.”

Source: https://www.pixarpost.com/2019/10/pixar ... icore.html

So the Manticore is supposed to be a female? Can't say I notice much feminine traits in her design.

I thought the same thing.

Lips!

I wouldn't be surprised if they gave her a non-gendered appearance to garner more "woke" points(and generate clickbait buzz.)