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SpringHeelJack wrote:

Rudy Matt wrote:Newman has been nominated over a dozen times and his songs for Toy Story, Toy Story 2, A Bug's Life and Monsters Inc. have become new American classics. His "only" Oscar win? Are you insane? As if "Oscar wins" are some easy commodity?

...when did "The Time of Your Life" become a "new American classic"?

The day A Bug's Life premiered.

Ok, I just heard somebody say Pixar movies suck. Yeah, his opinion, just dont insult them in front of me!

Rudy Matt wrote:

SpringHeelJack wrote: ...when did "The Time of Your Life" become a "new American classic"?

The day A Bug's Life premiered.

I see. And what are you basing this on, again?

ajmrowland wrote:Ok, I just heard somebody say Pixar movies suck. Yeah, his opinion, just dont insult them in front of me!

I don't know whether you're referring to me but just to make clear I didn't say Pixar films suck, I said that most Pixar songs suck.

sotiris2006 wrote:

ajmrowland wrote:Ok, I just heard somebody say Pixar movies suck. Yeah, his opinion, just dont insult them in front of me!

I don't know whether you're referring to me but just to make clear I didn't say Pixar films suck, I said that most Pixar songs suck.

Which I would have to agree with.

SpringHeelJack wrote:

Rudy Matt wrote: The day A Bug's Life premiered.

I see. And what are you basing this on, again?

Common sense and educated taste, something you and the other Pixar haters lack in sizable quantities.

Rudy Matt wrote:Common sense and educated taste, something you and the other Pixar haters lack in sizable quantities.

Yes, because if one dislikes Randy Newman, they must be a Pixar hater.

The two often go hand in hand.

Rudy Matt wrote:The two often go hand in hand.

Since when?!

Since Disney fans got a board up their tookus about Pixar....hating Newman and Pixar is par for their course. Continually losing at the Oscars apparently does that to a person. I wouldn't be surprised to go to a Dreamworks board and see Newman hate there as well.

I was surprised a little-known movie like The Hurt Locker won the big Oscar. Just goes to show that big box-office success does not equal guaranteed Oscar.

Up winning best animated feature was no shocker to me. I saw that coming a mile away. It would be the end of everything if they didn't win one.

By the way Rudy, how can someone who doesn't like Randy Newman be a Pixar hater? You think they're trying to be Disney purists or what?

IagoZazu wrote:I was surprised a little-known movie like The Hurt Locker won the big Oscar. Just goes to show that big box-office success does not equal guaranteed Oscar.

Up winning best animated feature was no shocker to me. I saw that coming a mile away. It would be the end of everything if they didn't win one.

By the way Rudy, how can someone who doesn't like Randy Newman be a Pixar hater? You think they're trying to be Disney purists or what?

Because they are Pixar haters first, leading them to be Newman haters. Newman is so inncuous and charming, the only reason someone could rise to the level of "hating" him is if some terciary issue was fanning those flames...like Pixar dominating the world of animation the last 15 years.

Rudy Matt wrote:

SpringHeelJack wrote: ...when did "The Time of Your Life" become a "new American classic"?

The day A Bug's Life premiered.

I think the fact that I don't even remember that song says something. And I often get "You've Got a Friend in Me" and the buddy song from Monsters, INC. confused, too (see, I can't even remember that one's title!).

I'm not a Pixar-hater, I couldn't be anything further from that. But Pixar movies are really strongest in the story department.

Rudy Matt wrote:Newman is so inncuous and charming, the only reason someone could rise to the level of "hating" him is if some terciary issue was fanning those flames...like Pixar dominating the world of animation the last 15 years.

Yes, because someone's personality makes their music sound so much better than it is.

I personally don't hate Newman. But I'm not going to pretend his music is anything more than what it is. And what it is was not good for TP&TF. It might've been good for Pixar films where music frankly hasn't been altogether important, but not so for a type of film where the songs are used to characterize and advance the story.

I think we're getting mixed up over hating him as a person vs hating his music. There's a very big difference between the two.

IagoZazu wrote:I was surprised a little-known movie like The Hurt Locker won the big Oscar. Just goes to show that big box-office success does not equal guaranteed Oscar.

Which I find a little unfair. That's practically like giving the Best Picture to an incredibly stupid movie like Twilight. And I seriously hate how the MTV Movie Awards 2009 people were complete idiots,having Twilight win practically everything, beating out WAY better movies like The Dark Knight or Slumdog Millionaire, which are a million times more deserving of whatever they were nominated for that Twilight won. Goes to show ya that some people are *censored*-ing morons with absolutely NO taste in movies.

IagoZazu wrote:Up winning best animated feature was no shocker to me. I saw that coming a mile away. It would be the end of everything if they didn't win one.

Yeah, Pixar has been winning every single year in a row. Because of a good story. Yeah frickin' right! The only reason that happens is because people want to kill off hand-drawn animation!

DisneyJedi wrote:Yeah, Pixar has been winning every single year in a row. Because of a good story. Yeah frickin' right! The only reason that happens is because people want to kill off hand-drawn animation!

Um, Cars didn't win. And neither did Monsters Inc.

Flanger-Hanger wrote:

DisneyJedi wrote:Yeah, Pixar has been winning every single year in a row. Because of a good story. Yeah frickin' right! The only reason that happens is because people want to kill off hand-drawn animation!

Um, Cars didn't win. And neither did Monsters Inc.

That's not the frickin' point!

Yet Spirited Away won the Oscar and that was a hand-drawn animated film. And to be honest, I don't think any Pixar film, no matter which one, would have beat Spirited Away were they released in the same year.

And if you look at the animated short category, Pixar has only ever won three times, I believe. Partly Cloudy wasn't even nominated this year.

DisneyJedi wrote:Yeah, Pixar has been winning every single year in a row. Because of a good story. Yeah frickin' right! The only reason that happens is because people want to kill off hand-drawn animation!

What's in it (killing off hand-drawn animation) for Academy voters? And if the entire voting body did have that goal, they're not doing a very good job because there have been a number of traditionally-animated films nominated for Oscars, as recently as two days ago. In fact, this year's nominations suggest that hand-drawn animated movies have a much better shot at getting recognized than computer-animated ones. There was only one computer-animated film nominated.