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Kyle wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 8:02 pm Even the hand drawn was disappointing to me. In the credits I saw a long list of "rotoscopers". was the original as rotoscope heavy?

D82 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 5:09 pm

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:24 am Having just watched the movie, I am wondering if anyone on here can provide any explanation towards anything And everything that was cut, Including why Rachel Covey, Despite cameoing, And as such did not Reprise Her role when she still could’ve, was re-casted?

I don't think an official reason for Morgan's recasting has been given, but there are some theories we've discussed here. One of them is that perhaps they wanted someone younger for the role. 15 years have passed in the real world, but only 10 in the movie, so they wanted someone who could play a teenager. I believe Gabriella Baldacchino, the actress who ended up playing the part, was 19 when she was cast. She's just four years younger than Rachel Covey, but it could still have been a consideration. Also, Rachel hasn't made a movie since Enchanted, so maybe she wasn't prepared for a role like this. Another possible reason is that, unlike last time, Morgan had to sing in the sequel. Rachel Covey is a playwright and a composer now, but I don't know if she sings or not. I've searched on Youtube and didn't find any video of her singing. Baldacchino, though, had experience in that regard. She did a good job, in my opinion, but it's a shame Rachel didn't get to play the character again.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:24 am Here’s the following but I know what cut, please let me know anything else that I’m missing here:

What makes a hero musical number in the Tavern
The seven dwarves
Jodi Benson cameo

The seven dwarfs appearing in the movie was a rumor by TheDisinsider and was never confirmed, so we don't know for sure if they were ever going to be in it or not. Jodi Benson is rumored to have a cameo in the Little Mermaid remake, but I haven't heard anything about her appearing in Disenchanted. But yes, the musical number "Hard Times for Heroes" was shot, but cut from the movie.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:24 am I also know that Menkin and Schwartz wrote about 11 songs for the movie so we know that the side of the one mentioned above That there were others that were cut.

Yes, Alan Menken said he and Stephen Schwartz wrote 10 or 11 songs for the movie in total. I'm not sure if they count the two parts of "Fairytale Life" as separate songs or not. Same with "Andalasia" and "The Magic of Andalasia", which have the same melody, but different lyrics and performers. I suspect they at least count "Faitytale Life" as one song. So, that makes 6 or 7 songs used in the movie. Two of the cut ones, "Hard Times for Heroes" and a duet by Morgan and Malvina's son titled "Something Different This Year" are included in the soundtrack. That leaves from one to three cut songs we haven't heard.

"Something Different This Year" was recorded by the actors who play the characters in the film, but we don't know if the musical number was shot or not.

Also, most of the songs that are in the movie were trimmed. We know that because they are longer on the soundtrack. The full version of "The Magic of Andalasia" was most likely filmed, because part of the cut verse was featured in one of the trailers, but we don't know if the other missing bits were cut after or before filming.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:24 am It also seems like they were supposed to be A scene right after Giselle went and sat down with Malvina And her minions at the beginning, As she was supposed to meet and talk with them, and we only saw the beginning With her arriving to sit down and then It cuts to the next scene?

She does sit down at the very end of that scene, but I also had the impression something had been cut from it when I first watched the movie, so maybe there was some shot from it shown in a trailer or TV spot that wasn't in the final film.

It's also possible some of the scenes filmed during the reshoots replaced older ones.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Sun Dec 11, 2022 12:24 am And of course, was anyone at the test screening that Led to them having to do re-shoots? What was different/Not included in the final move either was there? Where the dwarves and the Jodi Benson cameo there? Any information from what was changed from the test screening as well please!

I don't remember anyone here mentioning they had had been at the test screening, but who knows, maybe some other member has more info regarding that.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:23 am Thank you so much For replying if you could please provide a link to that specific trailer that you talked about, it would be truly gratefully appreciated

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:23 am The following is an article that explains the Jodi Benson cameo for this movie, not live action little mermaid: https://deadline.com/2022/11/disenchant ... 235174622/

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 1:44 pm

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:23 am Thank you so much For replying if you could please provide a link to that specific trailer that you talked about, it would be truly gratefully appreciated

You're welcome, Patricier21! The trailer I mentioned is this one. The cut verse from Nancy and Edward's song can be heard at the 0:18 minute mark.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:23 am The following is an article that explains the Jodi Benson cameo for this movie, not live action little mermaid: https://deadline.com/2022/11/disenchant ... 235174622/

I remember that article, but I hadn't listened to the podcast included in it. You were right she filmed a cameo that was cut. Thanks for providing the link! I'm curious about it, especially after hearing Barry Josephson loved it and that, according to him, it was a very funny scene. He says Robert was in it too and that it took place in his office. I wonder if it was going to happen before or after they move to Monroeville.

Patricier21 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 12, 2022 2:36 pm Again, may you and anyone else reading this please let me know if you find any other information that I’m looking for here, would also be truly gratefully appreciated

D82 wrote: ↑Mon Dec 19, 2022 7:57 pm
• More stuff shared by the animation team:

John Pomeroy (Animator)
https://www.instagram.com/p/Cl5Z26qPJqA/
https://www.instagram.com/p/CmRu25CsDnB/

Edward's 2D design went through quite a few different artists while his costume was finalized in the live-action department. We looked a lot at his design in Enchanted, although the director ultimately decided he wanted Edward's design to be slightly aged up from the original film.

While the animation was looking to evoke the look of classic Disney fairytale movies, the performances and the storytelling are more subtle and tailored to the needs of this movie, Pope says. “The tone of the shot as a composition is the thing that’s different, rather than necessarily the animation,” he says.

Shaffer compares the result to the style seen in the 1995 feature Pocahontas, which is on the more realistic end of the Disney style spectrum.

“Adam didn’t want us to go from live action into a world where they were more cartoony and bubbly, and then they go back to live action,” Shaffer says. “And so that’s sort of where we landed with it, and that did distinguish us from the previous movie.”

Finding 2D animation talent wasn’t easy, Shaffer says. The animators worked in Toon Boom software, but without 3D references it was all essentially hand drawn. “We don’t have the talent pool that we once had, but that’s changing,” he says.

The highlight of the project for Pope was seeing the performances come together. “It was a new challenge for, I think, most people to do such a realistic approach,” he says.

“I love working with new animators and seeing what their strengths are and collaborating with them,” adds Shaffer. “This is a very demanding project. It’s great that we have demanding projects because that’s where you learn to grow. And those are great challenges that are very exciting.”

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:31 pm Compare Disenchanted animation with Pocahonta's one is an insult for Pocahontas and their animators.
The animation that they made for Disenchanted looked really bad, more cheap than the first one and they even lost the beautiful style that the first movie has.

Kyle wrote: ↑Sun Mar 23, 2025 8:09 pm

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Wed Jul 03, 2024 1:31 pm Compare Disenchanted animation with Pocahonta's one is an insult for Pocahontas and their animators.
The animation that they made for Disenchanted looked really bad, more cheap than the first one and they even lost the beautiful style that the first movie has.

I dunno if it was confirmed or not, but it definitely looked rotoscoped to me, more so than the original. All to save money.

Q: Are there any songs you wish were not cut from your films?

Alan Menken: One of my recent projects had songs cut that really frustrated me and I think actually hurt it badly. It was called 'Disenchanted'. It was originally a real, full musical, but people who'll remain unnamed who had "titles" said...nope! But anyway, you live with that. That's the way it goes.

Farerb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:07 pm People tend to complain about the music in this movie but I prefer it much more than the music in Bob Iger's Snow White, Mufasa, Moana 2, Wish, etc...

Sotiris wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 5:15 am Menken revealed there was serious executive meddling with the film.

Q: Are there any songs you wish were not cut from your films?

Alan Menken: One of my recent projects had songs cut that really frustrated me and I think actually hurt it badly. It was called 'Disenchanted'. It was originally a real, full musical, but people who'll remain unnamed who had "titles" said...nope! But anyway, you live with that. That's the way it goes.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5NmkqB2II

Sotiris wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 5:15 am Menken revealed there was serious executive meddling with the film.

Q: Are there any songs you wish were not cut from your films?

Alan Menken: One of my recent projects had songs cut that really frustrated me and I think actually hurt it badly. It was called 'Disenchanted'. It was originally a real, full musical, but people who'll remain unnamed who had "titles" said...nope! But anyway, you live with that. That's the way it goes.

Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wF5NmkqB2II

DisneyFan09 wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 8:35 am

Farerb wrote: ↑Sat Mar 22, 2025 12:07 pm People tend to complain about the music in this movie but I prefer it much more than the music in Bob Iger's Snow White, Mufasa, Moana 2, Wish, etc...

Sorry, but I found all of those soundtracks superior to those from Disenchanted.