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Asha and Queen Amaya petite doll set:




Source: https://twitter.com/ashrose31/status/17 ... 8686516712

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There. Is. A. Meaning. To. This!!! I just know it, lol.

UmbrellaFish wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:29 pm ^^^

There. Is. A. Meaning. To. This!!! I just know it, lol.

I wonder if there's going to be a twist that she is also working with her husband to achieve his goals and is going to fool Asha and the entire kingdom to do so. I wouldn't be shocked if that is what Queen Amaya holding that mirror means.

Musical Master wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:36 pm

UmbrellaFish wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 6:29 pm ^^^

There. Is. A. Meaning. To. This!!! I just know it, lol.

I wonder if there's going to be a twist that she is also working with her husband to achieve his goals and is going to fool Asha and the entire kingdom to do so. I wouldn't be shocked if that is what Queen Amaya holding that mirror means.

I doubt they have a twist villain, the producers, lee and directors have been very explicit that this is a return to the originals with a simple villain from begining to end, King Magnífico

I assume Amaya is just a good person since Disney is very pro-monarchy and have to show that good monarchs exist (queen Amaya role)

According to Lee, King Maginfico is going to be a villain with a tragic backstory and he has apparently lost a family member. I wonder how his backstory motivated him to hoard people wishes and wipe their memories.

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:41 pm I doubt they have a twist villain, the producers, lee and directors have been very explicit that this is a return to the originals with a simple villain from begining to end, King Magnífico

I doubt it too. I don't think Jennifer Lee would've mentioned Queen Amaya as an example the movie is not against monarchy, when she was asked that question, if she was a villain.

I didn't remember characters like King Agnarr, Queen Iduna, Honeymaren or Mattias had dolls. Although, Frozen II was the sequel to a very successful film; maybe that's why they made so many dolls from that film. I still think Amaya will probably have an important role in the film. Maybe not a lot of screen time, but an instrumental role at least.

Mooky wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:31 am I don't know if they count because it was quite a while back when both Disney and Mattel were different, but both Nakoma and Charlotte La Bouff had playline dolls as well. Also Dalia from the live-action Aladdin but that was Hasbro.

I knew the name Dahlia sounded familiar. I had forgotten that's what Jasmine's handmaiden and friend was called. Well, without the "h", but it's just a version of the same name. Why did they give Asha's best friend (a very similar role) the same name?

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 5:44 pm Right now Asha outfit is really ugly but I'm sure her final dress will be beautiful, like all princesses (well Mirabel only has one outfit in the entire movie, even though she's not a princess she basically counts)

I personally like her outfit. The film's costumes are good in general, in my opinion. Especially, Asha's, Magnifico's and Amaya's. Although, the outfits in CGI films sometimes have too many details for my liking; I prefer the simplicity of 2D.

D82 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:39 pm I personally like her outfit. The film's costumes are good in general, in my opinion. Especially, Asha's, Magnifico's and Amaya's. Although, the outfits in CGI films sometimes have too many details for my liking; I prefer the simplicity of 2D.

I'm the same. I don't think they have ever managed to make something as beautiful or as iconic as Cinderella's dress or Belle's dress in CGI.

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 11:03 am

Thumper_93 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 10:42 am
Mattias from Frozen 2 had a doll too and he was not a very important character in the film.
They released also Ariel's sister dolls from the live action and they only appear 5 minutes in the movie.
I think that they Did an Amaya doll for fans. They now that they are going to buy her, she's not quite expensive to make

Ariel sisters only exist in the movie to be made into merchandising, they had less than a minute of screentime

And Mattias from Frozen II had originally a song so his role was bigger

There are many characters with songs without a doll. I don't know who decided to release him but it was a bad idea. You can find him in some outlets right now and buy him under 5€.
A female doll is more easy to sell because children’s can brush her hair, change her clothes and they use to look more attractive while a male doll use to be more like an action figure.

ElMaximo13 wrote:He’s a guy and he’s based on Dopey.

Thank you!!

blackcauldron85 wrote: ↑Sun Sep 24, 2023 4:01 am

ElMaximo13 wrote:He’s a guy and he’s based on Dopey.

Thank you!!

You’re welcome.

I hope we get a teaser tomorrow or Tuesday after for the Wednesday trailer

So this way the wait feels shorter

At least some new shots like Queen Amaya speaking of Dahlia

D82 wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 9:39 pmI knew the name Dahlia sounded familiar. I had forgotten that's what Jasmine's handmaiden and friend was called. Well, without the "h", but it's just a version of the same name. Why did they give Asha's best friend (a very similar role) the same name?

I dislike reused names as well. Another pet peeve of mine is when too many main characters have names that start with the same letter (Aurora, Ariel, Alice, Asha, Anita, Anna). I’m fine with it if a character comes from a pre-existing source material, but for original characters they should try to come up with something more unique.

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:41 pm

Musical Master wrote: ↑Sat Sep 23, 2023 7:36 pm I wonder if there's going to be a twist that she is also working with her husband to achieve his goals and is going to fool Asha and the entire kingdom to do so. I wouldn't be shocked if that is what Queen Amaya holding that mirror means.

I doubt they have a twist villain, the producers, lee and directors have been very explicit that this is a return to the originals with a simple villain from begining to end, King Magnífico

I assume Amaya is just a good person since Disney is very pro-monarchy and have to show that good monarchs exist (queen Amaya role)

I hope they are straightforward with the story and characters this time around. Though after Moana came out, there was hardly ever twist villains at all; so maybe you could be on to something. But no one knows until the movie comes out.

Just two more days until we get a new poster and the full trailer

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:44 am Just two more days until we get a new poster and the full trailer

And the full voice cast as well.

ElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:58 am

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:44 am Just two more days until we get a new poster and the full trailer

And the full voice cast as well.

I'm sure the cast will be full of unknowns

If Dahlia is filipina an unknown but if she's "generic east asian" they maybe cast Stephanie Hsu that has very much the same style as Ariana Debose, both being awards darlings (and both queer)

Edit: now that I think even if Dahlia is of filipina ancestry they will still cast an East asian actor, like they did with Raya that was explicitly South East Asian and not a single cast member was from the region

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:35 am

ElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 3:58 am
And the full voice cast as well.

I'm sure the cast will be full of unknowns

If Dahlia is filipina an unknown but if she's "generic east asian" they maybe cast Stephanie Hsu that has very much the same style as Ariana Debose, both being awards darlings (and both queer)

Edit: now that I think even if Dahlia is of filipina ancestry they will still cast an East asian actor, like they did with Raya that was explicitly South East Asian and not a single cast member was from the region

I think I read somewhere that Danny Pudi (from the TV show Community) might be part of the voice cast, but I don’t know how likely that would be. I guess we’ll have to wait until Wednesday to find out.

ElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:22 am

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 4:35 am

I'm sure the cast will be full of unknowns

If Dahlia is filipina an unknown but if she's "generic east asian" they maybe cast Stephanie Hsu that has very much the same style as Ariana Debose, both being awards darlings (and both queer)

Edit: now that I think even if Dahlia is of filipina ancestry they will still cast an East asian actor, like they did with Raya that was explicitly South East Asian and not a single cast member was from the region

I think I read somewhere that Danny Pudi (from the TV show Community) might be part of the voice cast, but I don’t know how likely that would be. I guess we’ll have to wait until Wednesday to find out.

He looks like one of the teens so makes sense, and since they will most likely only cast USA actors he makes sense, not a big actor but not small either

Pokenonbinary wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 10:26 am

ElMaximo13 wrote: ↑Mon Sep 25, 2023 8:22 am
I think I read somewhere that Danny Pudi (from the TV show Community) might be part of the voice cast, but I don’t know how likely that would be. I guess we’ll have to wait until Wednesday to find out.

He looks like one of the teens so makes sense, and since they will most likely only cast USA actors he makes sense, not a big actor but not small either

Which one of the Teens do you think he looks like?

Leaked image from the upcoming trailer:
https://twitter.com/crypticguy1324/stat ... CU6vQ&s=19