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Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 10:53 am
by Edthehyena
To me, the Tangled perfect formula is :
- all the charming vintage look and classic aesthetics of the good old 50's movies (landscapes, settings, colors, costumes, atmosphere and vibes in general), plus...
- ...all the emotionnal and energic art of the storytelling of 90's movies, plus...
- ...all the modernity of recent Pixar technology and humor
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:29 am
by SWillie!
Ed, we're definitely on the same page about that. Sounds like the perfect Disney movie. I'd add great songs to the list though. (Something I think Tangled was lacking in overall).
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 4:05 pm
by Edthehyena
Well, Healing Incantation, Kingdom Dance, MKB 2 and WWMLB 2 were Bliss, the intense genius of Alan crystallized and concentred... Rest of the score was a bit boring to me, anyway...
... could FROZEN be better ? Would be a miracle...
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 5:10 pm
by SWillie!
Wow we really are on the same page haha... Those are my favorites from Tangled too lol
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 6:04 pm
by Kyle
rodis wrote:^I agree. Disney has done incredibly well adapting classic fairy tales into films and I have a feeling that with PatF, Tangled and WIR, they're really outdoing themselves with every release.
I liked Tangled a lot but something tells me Frozen is gonna be better.
Disney+fairy tale=pure magic.
Somehow I have a feeling it wont be as good. glen keane was what really sold the animation, and without him I fear the characters will be missing that organic hand animated feel.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 7:02 pm
by SWillie!
True, but Glen's been working with and mentoring the artists still there for years. It was inevitable that at some point it would be up to them to take up the task on their own, and I think they've gotten to the point where they can. I know Wreck it Ralph was entirely different beast with the 8 but animation and whatnot, but the animation in that film is fantastic. I think the animation dept can handle it - it'll be up to the story dept to determine if its better or worse than Tangled.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 12:58 am
by Disney's Divinity
SWillie! wrote:(Something I think Tangled was lacking in overall).
TP&TF as well. To be fair, at least Menken had 7+ successes, whereas Newman was a complete WTH choice. It remains to be seen whether the new composers will do well, though I think they will. I just wonder if they'll be out of their comfort zone, considering
Book of Mormon and
Avenue Q were both focused on humor.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 2:24 am
by Edthehyena
Fortunately, Bobby will have his wife's sensitivity to balance it all. I was wondering if Funny Bobby could write emotionnal stuff... Obviously, "Let it Go" is very good and sincere. Maybe we will have a "I've Got a Dream" kinda scene with dancing silly snow men or something like that, but as long as the drama theme between Elsa and Anna remains at the core of the songs and movie, i don't mind.
My worry is more about the score. Can Robert Lopez write a whole narrative soundtrack, with action music and all ?
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 3:10 am
by qindarka
Edthehyena wrote:Fortunately, Bobby will have his wife's sensitivity to balance it all. I was wondering if Funny Bobby could write emotionnal stuff... Obviously, "Let it Go" is very good and sincere. Maybe we will have a "I've Got a Dream" kinda scene with dancing silly snow men or something like that, but as long as the drama theme between Elsa and Anna remains at the core of the songs and movie, i don't mind.
My worry is more about the score. Can Robert Lopez write a whole narrative soundtrack, with action music and all ?
Speaking of that, has it ever been officially confirmed that the Lopez's will be doing the score? I would assume so, given that they were announced long ago with nobody else mentioned, but perhaps there is still a chance they will only be handling the songs as in Winnie the Pooh.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:01 am
by estefan
I get the feeling Henry Jackman will write the score, like he's done for the past couple of Disney Animation titles.
And I think Lopez could do well with dramatic songs. Avenue Q and The Book of Mormon both have their more emotional and heartfelt moments. This song from The Book of Mormon is even heavily inspired by Alan Menken's "I Want" songs:
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Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:27 am
by PatrickvD
And that's not even the best song from The Book of Mormon.
"I Believe" is also a favorite of mine. I have faith in Lopez. I'm also guessing Henry Jackman will do the score.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 6:45 am
by Sotiris
estefan wrote:This song from The Book of Mormon is even heavily inspired by Alan Menken's "I Want" songs.
Funny you should say that; Robert Lopez said something similar a while ago.

Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 8:26 am
by jazzflower92
Sotiris wrote:estefan wrote:This song from The Book of Mormon is even heavily inspired by Alan Menken's "I Want" songs.
Funny you should say that; Robert Lopez said something similar a while ago.

Man,Alan Menken's influence is really big in the musical world.Yeah,its kinda of seems to be a standard to measure up to Mr.Menken.Then again he was the composer for a lot of the songs in the 90's.
Also one thing to note Robert Lopez is 37 years old he was born in 1975.Which means he probably was fourteen when the Little Meremaid came out.Yeah,I defiantly have a feeling that Menken left a mark on this guy's life.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 4:39 pm
by monorail91
Hate Book of Mormon...thanks but no thanks Robert Lopez
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:07 pm
by DisneyEra
RodryCroft wrote:
Cool!!! Nice color!! =D
Another new fanart of Princess Anna. Nice Detail!
http://browse.deviantart.com/?order=5&q ... n#/d5t0r0y
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 10:44 pm
by Linden
RodryCroft, you might be interested to know that your fanart of Anna is being passed around on tumblr as new concept art.

I can't get a link with the text for some reason.
Here's the text and the link.
http://welcometomyanimatedlife.tumblr.c ... some-early
Happy Sunday Funday!
I came across some early concept work for Disney’s newest film, Frozen, taking the classic children’s story The Snow Queen and adding their Disney magic!
I can’t wait until more concept work is released!
Happy animating!
Your Fellow Animation Animating Animator
There's a picture I've never seen along with it, but considering this person's research, I'm guessing it's not legitimate. Pretty, though.
EDIT: I just realised the other picture is from WizArt's production. This person did not do her homework.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:05 pm
by qindarka
I see RodryCroft's artwork everywhere now. It's the image for the Frozen page on the Disney wiki, for instance.
Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2013 11:12 pm
by Linden
^That's actually pretty awesome.

I don't poke around as much, now that I have homework, so that was the first I've seen of it.
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:16 am
by RodryCroft
Linden wrote:RodryCroft, you might be interested to know that your fanart of Anna is being passed around on tumblr as new concept art.

I can't get a link with the text for some reason.
Here's the text and the link.
http://welcometomyanimatedlife.tumblr.c ... some-early
Happy Sunday Funday!
I came across some early concept work for Disney’s newest film, Frozen, taking the classic children’s story The Snow Queen and adding their Disney magic!
I can’t wait until more concept work is released!
Happy animating!
Your Fellow Animation Animating Animator
There's a picture I've never seen along with it, but considering this person's research, I'm guessing it's not legitimate. Pretty, though.
EDIT: I just realised the other picture is from WizArt's production. This person did not do her homework.
Actually, I'm freaking out. I'm seeing my fanarts everywhere too.
But I don't think how can someone take it as an official concept art??!! I mean, there are not that great =/
Well, I'm very glad to see a lot of people liked it, I want to become a Disney artist so... It's great to feel some people likes my drawings =D
Oh, by the way, the New York Toy Fair starts next February 10, I'm sure we'll see the first Frozen dolls and another merchandising!!! =D Can't wait!
Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2013 10:23 am
by Sotiris
RodryCroft wrote:But I don't think how can someone take it as an official concept art??!! I mean, there are not that great =/
Don't cut yourself short, Rodrigo. They're quite good. Your drawing of Anna is the best fan-art I've found of this character.