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[UK] Walt Disney Treasures at the BBFC

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:42 am
by 2099net
Lots of Disney stuff today, including more Lion King as well.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
BIONICLE - DVD MENUS

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
EVERYBODY LOVES GOOFY
No individual details, only the runtime (51m 36s)

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
PIGLET'S BIG MOVIE - DVD MENUS

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
SILLY SYMPHONIES - DVD BONUS COMPILATION
Run Time 56m 53s

00:00:48:20 | DISC INTRODUCTION
00:00:31:21 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: THE GRASSHOPPER AND THE ANTS
00:01:06:23 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: THE TORTOISE AND THE HARE
00:00:55:13 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: THE FLYING MOUSE
00:00:36:17 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: WYNKEN
BLYNKEN & NOD
00:01:13:23 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: THE THREE LITTLE PIGS
00:00:45:14 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: SKELETON DANCE
00:01:21:06 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: FLOWERS AND TREES
00:00:43:12 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: MUSICLAND
00:00:28:18 | LEONARD MALTIN INTRO TO: THE UGLY DUCKLING
00:11:42:03 | THE SONGS OF SILLY SYMPHONIES
00:17:24:20 | SILLY SYMPHONIES SOUVENIRS
00:01:38:17 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO THE GRASSHOPPER AND THE ANTS
00:03:17:02 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO WHO KILLED COCK ROBIN
00:02:06:04 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO WATER BABIES
00:01:31:22 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO WYNKEN
BLYNKEN & NOD
00:00:45:05 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO THE PRACTICAL PIG
00:00:44:08 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO FARMYARD SYMPHONY
00:01:08:05 | WALT DISNEY INTRODUCTION TO THE OLD MILL
00:08:01:21 | PRACTICAL PIG

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
STITCH! THE MOVIE
Now apparently 'U' certificate and passed with no cuts :?

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
THE LION KING - DVD MENUS

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THE LION KING - EXTRA DVD BONUS
No other details, only the runtime (4m 16s) - I expect this to be The Making Of The Morning Report which has not been classified for the DVD release.

http://www.bbfc.co.uk/website/Classifie ... enDocument
WALT DISNEY TREASURES: MICKEY MOUSE IN LIVING COLOR - BONUS
Run Time 46m 21s

00:02:27:14 | PARADE OF THE AWARD NOMINEES
00:07:53:14 | ON ICE
00:08:00:23 | PLUTO'S JUDGEMENT DAY
00:07:31:19 | MICKEY'S FIRE BRIGADE
00:04:59:18 | MICKEY'S SURPRISE PARTY
00:01:49:15 | DISC INTRO
00:00:45:08 | PARADE OF AWARD NOMINEES INTRO
00:01:05:09 | PENCIL TESTS INTRO
00:00:33:04 | MICKEY'S SURPRISE PARTY INTRO
00:08:40:04 | MICKEY MOUSE IN LIVING COLOR
00:02:33:21 | THE WALT AND MICKEY EASTER EGG

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WTP SPOOKABLE FUN - DVD MENUS
Winnie the Pooh of course!

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X MEN ANIMATED VOL 2 DVD MENUS
Not really Disney, but Buena Vista

2099net Comments:

It's absolute madness that Disney UK are releasing (some) of the Walt Disney Treasures while still forging ahead with their "Fables" and "Everybody Loves..." ranges. Look at the Everybody Loves Goofy entry - 50 odd minutes while the Complete Goofy Treasures is over 5 hours!

I'll be interested to see how much Disney UK thinks that they can get away with charging for the Treasures sets given their much increased content.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:26 am
by Loomis
Ok, at this point I'd like to say....D'oh!

It is odd.

We had both the Fables and Treasures listed on the BVHE.com.au sites listed at one stage too...then most mysteriously vanished...

Madness.

But I suppose this is good news for a lot of people in one way.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:33 am
by Matty-Mouse
Exactly how much is missing from the treasures lists 2099net. I've not got any of them yet and really want them, do you think that this is just the first handful of cartoons to be rated and that the rest will be rated later on?

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 11:45 am
by 2099net
These are just the bonus materials for the sets, and seem to be exact copies of the supplements and easter eggs on the R1 sets. The Cartoons named on the Mickey Mouse set for example are supplemental pencil tests - not the actualy cartoons.

I guess the actual discs will have the same content as the R1 versions. However, I'm sure the UK won't get the limited numbered tins.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 12:50 pm
by Dogtanian
I'm confused, is this a happy ending or a sad ending?

I've only got two of the treasues tins (Goofy, Disneyland), so I'm glad I'll be able to get the Mickey cartoons and Silly Symphonies.

I hope they won't try and rip us off too much, and if they won't be limited editions, they shouldn't be too expensive? Right?

Now that I've thought about it for a couple of minutes, I'm quite chuffed that I'll be able to get them, although I would have liked to get a complete set of tins (but thanks to eBay whores that's not going to happen).

It's an ending! That's enough... I guess. Bring 'em on.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 2:45 pm
by Matty-Mouse
Thanks for the info 2099net buddy :D

Dogtanian (cool name BTW), I'd buy these sets (when avablible) on either Play.com or Splashdvd.com they always seem to be the cheapest with me, I never pay street prices for my disney stuff. I think it would be nice to have the tins but I'm not that bothered I just want the content.

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 5:20 pm
by Loomis
Dogtanian wrote:I'm confused, is this a happy ending or a sad ending?
I share your sentiments in a way - I've just spent a bunch of money picking up the tins, and to see them come out (presumably cheaper - MMILC HAS to be :D) is a little painful.

However, it can only be a good thing I think. As collectors, those with the numbered tins have a good looking set. For everyone who missed out and just wants the discs, they are happy too. Finally, they are out on a durable format that everyone has a chance of getting (being released across most of Europe now) which in the end is what really counts...

Re: [UK] Walt Disney Treasures at the BBFC

Posted: Thu Sep 04, 2003 8:22 pm
by Joe Carioca
2099net wrote:It's absolute madness that Disney UK are releasing (some) of the Walt Disney Treasures while still forging ahead with their "Fables" and "Everybody Loves..." ranges.
Not at all... the same thing is hapenning in some other countries. I'm very happy they are releasing these 2 DVDs worldwide. I can't wait for the local release.

Re: [UK] Walt Disney Treasures at the BBFC

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 1:04 am
by 2099net
Joe Carioca wrote:
2099net wrote:It's absolute madness that Disney UK are releasing (some) of the Walt Disney Treasures while still forging ahead with their "Fables" and "Everybody Loves..." ranges.
Not at all... the same thing is hapenning in some other countries. I'm very happy they are releasing these 2 DVDs worldwide. I can't wait for the local release.
Well, what I really meant it the other way round - why release the substandard cutdown Fables and Everybody Loves when the much more superior Treasures were always going to be released?

For example, who in their right mind would buy a Everybody Loves Goofy compilation which doesn't even run for an hour, when the Goofy Treasures set (which we can now assume will be released) runs for 5 and a half hours!?!

Once again, like Disney UK's aggressive promotion of their single disc sets at the expense of their 2 disc sets, it's Disney 'dumbing down' their releases. America dosen't seem to have a need for these Treasures Light collections, so why should the rest of the world?

Re: [UK] Walt Disney Treasures at the BBFC

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 2:51 am
by Billy Moon
2099net wrote:For example, who in their right mind would buy a Everybody Loves Goofy compilation which doesn't even run for an hour, when the Goofy Treasures set (which we can now assume will be released) runs for 5 and a half hours!?!
That's simple. Many people will end up buying both, because they won't know there'll be a 2-dic set available a year later... Just like many people will end up buying both 1-disc and 2-disc releases of Lilo and Stitch - the first one to get the movie and the second one for the extras. It's very clever marketing, nothing more.

Posted: Fri Sep 05, 2003 3:33 am
by 2099net
In the short term it may be seen as clever marketing (but I think it will confuse people) but in the long term it's anything but clever marketing.

But isn't that everything we hate about Disney these days - decisions made with short term profits in mind and no thought as to the concequences of the long term rewards.

It will confuse people and cause resentment when people who bought the initial sets find out about the treasures. It will have a negative affect on Disney in the long run. Obviously releasing a single disc Sleeping Beauty release in the UK and then following with the 2 disc set 10 months later didn't have much of an affect on Disney's profits - because they never advertised the 2 disc release at all (not even a press release) and as a result most shops have never even stocked it at any time since. And I've read comments at the time from people who said "I've got the single disc release, I won't buy the double disc set as well".

Wouldn't only releasing the 2 disc set for a resonable price in the first place have been better? Perhaps they have learned this lesson now, with The Lion King only getting a 2 disc release in the UK - the first time ever for a 2 disc set.

I know now for example from reading other forums, people are feeling cheated that a 2 disc Lilo and Stitch is coming out in the US. And they have far from complimentary things to say about Disney as a result.

The same will happen becuase of the cut down, dumbed down European collections too. Mark my words.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:46 am
by 2099net
According to Blackstar.co.uk, the two animated Treasures sets (Mickey Mouse In Living Colour 1 and Silly Symphonies) are due for UK release on 10th November.

No pricing information is available.

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:49 am
by Matty-Mouse
Well thats two more things I want before I've bought anyone any christmas presents. I think I might start watching Blue Peter for the next few months and make my christmas presents for everyone :lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 11:50 am
by 2099net
You can make an Advent Crown! :lol:

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2003 12:34 pm
by Anders M Olsson
2099net wrote:According to Blackstar.co.uk, the two animated Treasures sets (Mickey Mouse In Living Colour 1 and Silly Symphonies) are due for UK release on 10th November.

No pricing information is available.
According to Blackstar's site, both these titles are coming on DVD and on VHS. I wonder if that's a mistake, or if they are really coming to VHS in the UK?

Posted: Fri Sep 12, 2003 11:10 am
by Matty-Mouse
2099net wrote:You can make an Advent Crown! :lol:

I love the advent crown, every candle gets us closer to christmas!

Back to topic it would be very werid if they did release these on VHS. I think we'll have to wait until amazon.co.uk have the listing up.

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 3:40 pm
by Dogtanian
Blackstar now have a price listed - £18.99.

A little pricey if these aren't LE tins, but still cheaper than eBay!

MMILC is still listed as Nov 10, but SS seems to have been pushed back to December.

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 11:28 am
by Matty-Mouse
Still no other online shop has these set on oder yet. I wonder why this is?

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:45 pm
by Mr Burns
I don't except to see these released in the UK until the new year now. :(

Posted: Wed Oct 22, 2003 12:06 pm
by 2099net
Well, they're up for pre-order on Amazon.co.uk now. But no further information or pictures are available, even though the release date is less than a month away (Nov 10th).

Which is absolutely unforgivable for releases like these. We don't even know if the releases are limited and/or come in a tin casing. :(

BVHE needs to get somebody else to do their PR.