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It seems to me that Lion King is really trying to mimick the way BATB Platinum worked out...
Think about it...

BATB comes out "Special Edition" with a new song that was originally intended for the movie but was cut... however song was a hit in broadway version so they decide to rework for the movie once again.

Suddenly The Lion King gets a new song for it's Special Platinum Edition, however, unlike BATB this song, "Mourning Report", was not meant for the movie, but was taken from the play, and from what I hear it's god aweful... The was absolutely no point in adding this number as it seems that it does not add what so ever to the story (and while many of you may say the same about Human Again, that was not the case, Human Again did add to the story a bit and was intended to be put in).

Also, BATB was released as a trilogy, a "trilogy" that already existed, and what do you know, in time to coincide with Lion Kings 1 and 2 a 3rd one has suddenly come out of the wood work... coincidence? or was this planned just to go along with the pattern that BATB started and that Aladdin is sure to follow.

Aladdin has every right to follow this pattern, as A. It has numerous deleted songs, that could be added to the movie, justly, and is an existing trilogy already.

Any way just thought I'd mention it...

Yeah, Disney must have been pleased with Beauty's sales (and the sequel sales). I would say that adding a sequence that wasn't meant to be there hoping that it will sell copies is a waste of money, but having seen the final "Morning Report" sequence, it looks like it couldn't have taken all that much time, money, or effort. Still, why not take that time, money, and effort and put together a killer one-hour documentary?

I don't understand this topic
comes the lionking with the moring report or with an other song voor THE Platinum edition?
and is the answer yes why?
because it's awful?

please tell me that
greetings robkn

robkn wrote:I don't understand this topic
comes the lionking with the moring report or with an other song voor THE Platinum edition?
and is the answer yes why?
because it's awful?

please tell me that
greetings robkn

The Morning Report is a new musical number for the DVD. "Human Again" was new on the Beauty and the Beast DVD, but it actually was restored for the IMAX engagment, and it was always intended to be part of the film. "Morning Report", on the other hand, was just added to try and sell more DVD copies.

And if I'm understanding your question right, then yes, "Morning Report" is pretty awful.

I think you can wacht better the original than the Se version the lionking right?

greetings robkn

robkn wrote:I think you can wacht better the original than the Se version the lionking right?

greetings robkn

Well, yes, you'll be able to watch the movie without "Morning Report", although it won't really be the original theatrical cut, because of the lots of minor changes made.

What do you mean a lots of minor changes made can you explain that to me?

you mean the sound en transfer for the original version that is changed or you mean something else?

greetings robkn

robkn wrote:What do you mean a lots of minor changes made can you explain that to me?

you mean the sound en transfer for the original version that is changed or you mean something else?

greetings robkn

All the changes to the animation - the dust in the clouds scene, the new sound mix, the new studio logo (which I hope won't be there), Mufasa's appearance. Individually, all of the changes seem hardly worth mentioning, but overall, it definitely bothers me. Some of them seem pointless, while others may improve detail, but what's the point? They can make Fantasia look more detailed, but no one wants them to go back and re-animate, do they?

The biggest problem for me (admittedly only from seeing the screenshots, I've not seen the IMAX release) is the different colours used in the IMAX edition.

Sure they look better if compared to the previous release, but I think that overall the IMAX Lion King may be too colourful and 'in your face'.

I sort of felt this when watching the Beauty and the Beast DVD, but I've sort of mellowed in my opinion since my initial viewing. But just out of interest compate the scenes in the original BatB trailer to the scenes on the DVD. I think I still prefer the coloring of the original release.

What do you mean reanimate? is the dvd the lionking a bad one ?
because they are reanimate?
I waiting for it because it is my favourite movie ever!
you tell me it is a disapointment the dvd?


greetings robkn

Basically, when The Lion King was released on the IMAX screen, it was decided that the image would be so large that any problems with the original animation would be too visible. (An IMAX screen is the height of several stories of a building).

So, Disney took the opportunity to add detail to a number of scenes and backgrounds in the film. For example, some small background characters in some scenes had no facial details. While this was OK on a normal sized screen or television screen, this would be noticable on the huge IMAX screen, so facial details were added.

Being as they were changing the scenes on the computer they also decided to make some other changes, mainly to some special effects and also altered the colours, making them cleaner and more colourful.

I wouldn't worry about it. The same thing was done with Beauty and the Beast for it's IMAX release and DVD release and most people either didn't notice or said it looked better than ever on DVD.

Some of us here just have a habit of over-thinking some things.

thank you for the information but one more thing
there have more information than ever on the dvd is that ok for the qualtiy or is that bad for the quality all that animation menus I think first it was nice but i have my doubt about it?

I agree about their trying to mimic the success. But I'm not sure they are going to make it a trilogy set, because on the pics of the Lion King packaging, there is no "I" or "1" on the spine like there was for BATB.

PS: One of the the things that annoyed me about the new BATB IMAX revamp, was that in certain scenes where is was very dark, during scenes where Belle and her father first stumble onto the castle, you could see the Beast's face. I remember on previous viewings that you couldn't see the details of his face, until when he finally did as Belle said ("step into the light"): it was the first time seeing what he looked like. That was gone in new version because of their redone colors. Just a pet peeve of mine.

thank you for the information but one more thing
there have more information than ever on the dvd is that ok for the qualtiy or is that bad for the quality all that animation menus I think first it was nice but i have my doubt about it?

I'm talking about the lionking dvd not the beauty and the beast dvd!

The song, "Morning Report" isn't bad. It takes place when Mufasa is teaching Simba how to pounce. I personally wouldn't mind seeing it animated. But if it's that bad I'll just watch the original. Also, I saw it in the Imax and didn't know they had re-animated anything until I read this. Also, The Platinum Collection is supposed to be a series, so if the Platinum Edition of The Lion King looks like that of Beauty And The Beast, then they are doing a good job of it. And as for the 3rd Lion King film, I believe it takes place in between 1 and 2 and just because there are 3 doesn't mean it's copying Beauty and the Beast. And by the way, you can't considder any of the straight to video sequels to be part of a trilogy.

robkn wrote:thank you for the information but one more thing
there have more information than ever on the dvd is that ok for the qualtiy or is that bad for the quality all that animation menus I think first it was nice but i have my doubt about it?

I'm talking about the lionking dvd not the beauty and the beast dvd!

If I understand your question correctly you are referring to the extra features and additional materials on the dvd...

Well, all the extra bonus content is usually featured on a second or alternate disc to the feature, that is why these are released as 2-disc Special Editions.

This is likely done becuase such additional content would, as you are concerned, take up lots of necessary space and could possibly deter from the quality of the feature. Not likely to be a hugely significant focus, yet it would bear some effect in taking away from the video's maximum capacity... However, that is not the case since the extra content is all on a seperate disc from the feature.

I can assure you that quality wise, the video will be absolutely pristine and flawless in all aspects.

I can assure you that quality wise, the video will be absolutely pristine and flawless in all aspects?

what do you mean i don't understand these words can you explain it to me?

greetings robkn

Jack wrote:PS: One of the the things that annoyed me about the new BATB IMAX revamp, was that in certain scenes where is was very dark, during scenes where Belle and her father first stumble onto the castle, you could see the Beast's face. I remember on previous viewings that you couldn't see the details of his face, until when he finally did as Belle said ("step into the light"): it was the first time seeing what he looked like. That was gone in new version because of their redone colors. Just a pet peeve of mine.

Exactly my thoughts. The new Beauty and the Beast colours are much better for the outside scenes, and even the scenes in the castle during the day. The hurt the film though whenever darkness and shadows need to be shown.

robkn wrote:I can assure you that quality wise, the video will be absolutely pristine and flawless in all aspects?

what do you mean i don't understand these words can you explain it to me?

greetings robkn

It means dont worry, the quality will be very good.

I dont get it... why do you people think its copying B&tB? maybe its a new thing disney is trying to do with all its movies.... true morning report isn't a very good song, but so what? its to make the whole DVD more interesting, plus it adds an extra scene to the movie! so i dont see what everyone is comlpaining about!