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For True Fans of The Rescuers. I guess just normal fans too
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:46 pm
by Tangela
Dear Friends,
You probably have noticed that "The Rescuers" has been treated badly without reason, I think it is time to let The Walt Disney Company know that we are tired of that. The Rescuers together with other films like "The Fox and the Hound" and "The Black Cauldron" do not get the respect they deserve.
Here are some good things about "The Rescuers"'s treatment:
1. Bernard, Bianca and Rufus can be seen in several places at Walt Disney World, like in a store window at Main Street, U.S.A. A crystal ball and in an a small attraction at MGM Studios called "The Art of Disney Animation" (If you noticed, the "naked picture in the window" can be seen here if you pay attention.)
2... Is there anything else...???
These are the bad ones:
1. A Disney animator inserted a naughty picture into the film, which caused the recall of The Rescuers.
2. The Rescuers' characters cannot be seen in Disneyland attractions or in merchandise.
3. The DVD release was awful...
4. The movie had to be recalled.
5. Considered a bad movie even though it has been rated 4.5 stars at Amazon.com
6. Bernard and Bianca do not appear much at the House of Mouse.
Here are the DVD bads:
1. No label, just "Disney's". No Special or Platinum Edition.
2. Spanish Language track brings an annoying translator...
3. Bad Special features... No "Original Trailer (1977)" or "The Making of the Rescuers", "Deleted Scenes". Not even (thank God for this) "The Naked Truth: The story behind the Rescuers"
4. (Deleted, Never Mind)
5. No TV announcement of release.
6. Same boring cover art...
7. Not the most interesting disk art...
8. No chapter index...
ALL MY FAVORITE MOVIES ARE UNDERRATED!!!!!!

Re: For True Fans of The Rescuers. I guess just normal fans
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 1:57 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Tangela wrote:4. Widescreen shows less than in the old video
how can Widescreen show less? lol the Rescuers was shot at 1:66.1 what you see on the DVD is the OAR the VHS is Pan & Scam so you loose more picture on the sides.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:04 pm
by Prince Phillip
Tangela,
I do not think Disney would care about your concern with the lack of Rescuers merchandise, whatever. This is not to be mean, but it is a simple fact....
However, I think, all who love this movie, or enjoy it, but were appalled with the DVD treatment should definately complain... Call disney/buena vista, as has been shown time and time again it seems, it really does make a difference.... Dvd inserts are back, and the Absent Minded Prof. was corrected....
So go out all, and call, let disney/buena know we/you are displeased with the terrible DVD treatment...

Re: For True Fans of The Rescuers. I guess just normal fans
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:06 pm
by Prince Phillip
MickeyMouseboy wrote:Tangela wrote:4. Widescreen shows less than in the old video
how can Widescreen show less? lol the Rescuers was shot at 1:66.1 what you see on the DVD is the OAR the VHS is Pan & Scam so you loose more picture on the sides.
Well, I don't know if this is the case with the Rescuers, never having seen it on VHS or DVD, but sometimes, a movie can be Widescreen but still cut things off from the sides, I have seen it all to many times, they made it Widescreen, but not OAR, I guess it was to make the black bars smaller, but it is not right.

Re: For True Fans of The Rescuers. I guess just normal fans
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:28 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Prince Phillip wrote:MickeyMouseboy wrote:
how can Widescreen show less? lol the Rescuers was shot at 1:66.1 what you see on the DVD is the OAR the VHS is Pan & Scam so you loose more picture on the sides.
Well, I don't know if this is the case with the Rescuers, never having seen it on VHS or DVD, but sometimes, a movie can be Widescreen but still cut things off from the sides, I have seen it all to many times, they made it Widescreen, but not OAR, I guess it was to make the black bars smaller, but it is not right.

Wrong! When it's widescreen it has all the picture you saw in theaters unless you watch it on TV set which alters the picture by streeching it on the side and some of the picture gets lost to overscan. but if you watch it on a PC all the picture is there, since PC screens don't have overscan!
This info is brought to you by Luke.
HEY!!!
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:34 pm
by Tangela
Re: HEY!!!
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 2:36 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Actually they're not! They are making Rescuers 3 suppose to be out 06/07
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:11 pm
by Prince Adam
I hope they use the same voices (are they still alive?) and call it The Rescuers in the Land of the Midnight Sun, or The Rescuers in the Great White North.
And it can't be a DTV-it has to be one of the full-length animated classics like the first sequel was.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:55 pm
by indianajdp
All else aside, the DVD treatment was HORRIBLE. If i didn't love the movie so damn much I wouldn't care and would probably have traded it off, but it's just such a bad transfer.
I'm holding out hope that we get a SE or Platinum release of this in the next few years...that might make me forget the abuse this film has suffered in the current DVD release.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:34 pm
by STASHONE
the extras on the first rescuers dvd were alright. most single disc barebones from disney have even less content but that bird segment along with the bonus short were fine by me. i dont really see the need for a re-release, there cant be much more ground to cover with this one as it was never a huge hit, just a good disney movie. if disney gave excessive treatment to all of their features, i wouldnt be able to afford half of the disney films that i own...
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 7:37 pm
by disneyfella
actually it was a pretty big hit. enough of a hit to be rereleased to theaters AND spawn a feature length theatrical sequel. I would definitely agree that this is one of the few unrecognized disney films. i also thought that Alice was sort of a forgotten disney movie also, but this 2-disc set gives us all hope right?
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:04 pm
by Maerj
According to imdb, it made Gross $48,775,599 (USA) and $30,090,000 (USA) in rentals. Not bad for a movie in the 70's.
According to Leonard Maltin's book, The Disney Films, The Rescuers "climbed ahead of Disney's own Robin Hood to become the highest grossing animated feature in film history." At least at that time, of course.
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:17 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Maerj wrote:According to imdb, it made Gross $48,775,599 (USA) and $30,090,000 (USA) in rentals. Not bad for a movie in the 70's.
According to Leonard Maltin's book, The Disney Films, The Rescuers "climbed ahead of Disney's own Robin Hood to become the highest grossing animated feature in film history." At least at that time, of course.
Yes Maerj and disneyfella Rescuers was a great hit and it also was the last feature made by the 9 old men. Also Someone's waiting for you won a Oscar for best song in 1977. Some people need to check their facts before posting about something they have no clue about!
Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:22 pm
by Maerj
Oh I remember seeing that film when it first came out, I was pretty young but I remember enjoying it. It was a lot of fun and had a really wacked out villaness. Medusa was nuts!

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 10:40 pm
by MickeyMouseboy
Maerj wrote:Oh I remember seeing that film when it first came out, I was pretty young but I remember enjoying it. It was a lot of fun and had a really wacked out villaness. Medusa was nuts!

I wasn't born when that came out! But I do love Medusa!
Naughty Picture and lots more
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:05 am
by IggieKuzco
1. A Disney animator inserted a naughty picture into the film, which caused the recall of The Rescuers.
what naughty picture? when was there a naughty picture?
and what about down under? why dont u people disscuss it? so what if medusa and snoops werent in it? it still was o-kay and had some funny parts to it!
oh... and the voices are bob newhart and Eva Gabor,, but gabor is dead,\. So we have no Bianca. and never mind that... there's no john candy anymore either! so they probably wouldn't make a third flick. But you never no... i mean, the first two were space thirteen years apart! and now we're thirteen years after the second.... so there's always hope.
I personally think it would be cool if they did a "Rescuers Go to Disneyland" besides being an awsome flick, the merchandising of the rescuers will zoom up like crazy! but that's just me....
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:17 am
by 2099net
The picture quality on the PAL R2 Rescuers is appaling - dirt, scratches and general wear are all apparent. I understand the R1 version is a little better, but still shows most of the faults.
There is no excuse for this coming from a major motion picture studio like Disney. If the BBC can employ a team of people to clean up their Dr Who televison releases for DVD (which on average only sell 20,000 - 30,000 copies) Disney can afford to hire a company to clean up their Rescuers transfer.
End of Story.

Whatever
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 8:41 am
by IggieKuzco
whatever

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 3:01 pm
by indianajdp
2099net wrote:The picture quality on the PAL R2 Rescuers is appaling - dirt, scratches and general wear are all apparent. I understand the R1 version is a little better, but still shows most of the faults.
There is no excuse for this coming from a major motion picture studio like Disney. If the BBC can employ a team of people to clean up their Dr Who televison releases for DVD (which on average only sell 20,000 - 30,000 copies) Disney can afford to hire a company to clean up their Rescuers transfer.
End of Story.

I agree.
If they expect Disney Fans to pay $15 for a DVD then they can take the time to present the film they way it should be presented. I LOVE this movie, yet I feel like I bought a bootleg copy, or worse yet, that I still own the VHS. (well, actually I do still own the VHS)
I'm not sure what the sales numbers on this title are, but I hope word-of-mouth really stalled its sell-thru.
Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:28 pm
by Luke
indianajdp wrote:I'm not sure what the sales numbers on this title are, but I hope word-of-mouth really stalled its sell-thru.
Word-of-mouth is the only thing that could have made the sales numbers respectable, because advertising and stock were incredibly mishandled.