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Special Editions & Platinums

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:06 am
by Danny
I think it is awesome that Alice, Lilo, and Pocahontas will all get the 2-disc Special Edition treatment next year. I remember a while back here on this forum we were all worried that Disney was going to discontinue the 2-disc collector's sets. Glad that rumor turned out false!

Well, since we're getting Sleeping Beauty in a couple weeks, I wouldn't be surprised to see some of the other foreign special edition releases come to the U.S...like "Pinocchio" and "Peter Pan".

Also, I hope to see that rumored "Hunchback Of Notre Dame" special edition come out someday. Remember when the specs were listed on the Disney site a year ago? If they're doing "Pocahontas", then you know they gotta do "Hunchback".

Let's hope all these special editions sell well.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:13 am
by Matty-Mouse
At the end of the day the animated classics are disneys biggest money makers and since they've released nearly all of them once on DVD they need to release some other versions to make money.

I think these "Special Editions" will become an annual thing until all those great collectors editions we saw on Laserdisc in the mid to late 90's are released on DVD.

I'm definately buying all four Special editions when their released.

Re: Special Editions & Platinums

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 11:26 am
by Joe Carioca
Danny wrote:Also, I hope to see that rumored "Hunchback Of Notre Dame" special edition come out someday. Remember when the specs were listed on the Disney site a year ago? If they're doing "Pocahontas", then you know they gotta do "Hunchback".
I'm sure we're going to see special editions for "Hunchback" and "The Three Caballeros" somewhere in the future - there's no reason for them not doing so, after all, all the suplements are completed (they only need to be carried over from the laserdiscs), and Disney wouldn't have to spend a lot of money on these DVDs!

I can't wait for the 4 (5, if we count "Aladdin") Specials Editions coming next year... and maybe there will be more! At least I hope so!!

Re: Special Editions & Platinums

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 3:45 pm
by indianajdp
Joe Carioca wrote:
I can't wait for the 4 (5, if we count "Aladdin") Specials Editions coming next year... and maybe there will be more! At least I hope so!!
Gotta believe there will be more than five in '04. Hell, we'll have four of 'em in January. Wouldn't be surprised to see one or two suprises slip in the production schedule in Q3 or Q4 of '04.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 4:31 pm
by Luke
Hey Danny, you've returned! And I was just talking about you yesterday:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=889

Welcome back! :)

I think the original "Freaky Friday" might be issued as a Special Edition as well next year. Remember the spiel about hours of extra features that was on the website and taken down? That and the remake, I suspect, will be coming in January.

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2003 6:30 pm
by Disneykid
Like I've said in another thread, I have a feeling the supposed "new platinum titles" such as Pinocchio, Fantasia, Peter Pan, and Sleeping Beauty, will all be 2-disc Special Editions as opposed to platinums because the release of SB points to this, and too many things lately have been pointing to the 10 normal platinums with no mention of the newly added ones. So in the end, it'll be like this:

Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs-Platinum Edition
Pinocchio-Special Edition
Fantasia-Special Edition
Dumbo-?
Bambi-Platinum Edition
The Anthologies-Special Editions VERY likely
Cinderella-Platinum Edition
Alice in Wonderland-Special Edition
Peter Pan-Special Edition (curious to see how they market this as the last 1-disc release was a special edition)
Lady and the Tramp-Platinum Edition
Sleeping Beauty-Special Edition
101 Dalmatians-Platinum Edition
The Sword in the Stone-?
The Jungle Book-Platinum Edition
The Aristocats-?
Robin Hood-?
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh-?
The Rescuers-?
The Black Cauldron-?
The Fox and the Hound-?
The Great Mouse Detective-?
Oliver and Company-?
The Little Mermaid-Platinum Edition
The Rescuers Down Under-?
Beauty and the Beast-Platinum Edition
Aladdin-Platinum Edition
The Lion King-Platinum Edition
Pocahontas-Special Edition
The Hunchback of Notre Dame-Special Edition VERY Likely
Hercules-Special Edition VERY likely
Mulan-Special Edition possible
Tarzan-Collector's (can be called Special) Edition
Fantasia 2000-Collector's (can be called Special) Edition
The Emperor's New Groove-Collector's (can be called Special) Edition
Atlantis: The Lost Empire-Collector's (can be called Special) Edition
Lilo and Stitch-Special Edition
Treasure Planet-Special Edition possible

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 11:45 am
by Matty-Mouse
I have to say that I think that the DVD's we have for...
Make Mine Music, Fun And Fancy Free, Melody Time, The Adventures Of Ichabod And Mr Toad, The Aristocats, Robin Hood, The Many Adventures Of Winnie The Pooh, The Fox And The Hound, The Black Cauldron, The Great Mouse Detective and Oliver And Company are the only versions we'll ever see for them.

I think we've got a slim chance of seeing Special Edition releases for The Rescuers movies and The south American films as well though.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 1:40 pm
by Prince Phillip
The Horse in Home on the Range, looks like the horse from the Aristocats...

Offtopic I know, but Danny's Avatar just made me think of it. :)

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:25 pm
by Jack
The animation style reminds me of Sleeping Beauty for some reason.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 2:54 pm
by Captain Hook
Jack wrote:The animation style reminds me of Sleeping Beauty for some reason.
It reminds me of 70s, but I bet it's based on both 70s and Sleeping Beauty.

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 4:28 pm
by Jake Lipson
Eventually, we will likely get double-disc special editions of all of the animated classics. However, if they're only doing 3-5 a year it'll take a while, definitly into HD-DVD. If it would be possible for Disney to do this much, I would really love to get 1 or 2 double disc special editions per month, simmilar to how they released the Gold Collection. Of course, the Platinum would still have to maintain an event-like feel, but since they have the 10 best-selling titles in their library under that banner (I've given up hope on the four extra Platinums what with Gordon Ho's response to DVDFile and the lack of retitling for Sleeping Beauty) that shouldn't be a problem.

I for one am very very interested to see how they treat Brother Bear next spring. They seem to be admitting with the release of the January special editions that their lbirary titles will all at some point or another get special editions, so it would make a lot of sense just to do one edition from the get-go, especially since they'll likely try to squeeze both OAR and P&S versions on one disc (since Brother Bear is 2.35:1), but part of me says it will probably be affected by the new rule that trimmed Lilo & Stitch the first time: decently packed single disc with some nice extras, but not nearly as generous as a double-disc special edition. My hope, though, is that it is a big hit for Disney and (or even if it's not) we see just one release with both 2.35 and 1.33 transfers and lots of extras (something akin to Monsters, Inc., Finding Nemo, and Sleeping Beauty) with a big marketing campign behind it to help it move lots of copies. The WDFA Flordia employees deserve to see this one done right, after what happened the first time Lilo & Stitch was in the release pipeline. They also deserve the chance to go do a special edition of Mulan. We'll see....

Hey Luke!

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2003 7:56 pm
by Danny
Hey Luke!

Oh I'm still around...in fact, I check this website out every day to see what's new! When I read about the special editions coming out next year I had to see what people were saying on the boards! And being a big animation fan, I have to put my two cents in about the special editions! 8)

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 11:27 am
by Matty-Mouse
I have to disagree with you Jake. Disney feels (whether true or not) that there just isn't much point releasing nice SE DVD's for the package films and the films from Aristocats to Oliver. They think the public don't like them that much and it would be a waste of their money to do better versions than we have now.

I could be wrong for some but I doubt we'll ever see better versions of some.

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2003 1:52 pm
by disneyfella
i think disney tries to outdo itself each time. why wouldn't they just rerelease the same discs over and over? because people wouldn't buy them.

i feel maybe they just started out with the bare minimum on some of those discs because adding just a little more content they can call it a new edition name.


the editions we have now can't be all they are going to release to us forever.....

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:44 am
by 2099net
Edit: Where the heck did that French list go?

But of course, the French Pinocchio available now on that list is only a single disc with limited supplements.

And the French Peter Pan is 2 discs, but not really Platinum quality, fluff or no fluff. (Thankfully little fluff)

So it looks like these are a list French titles, which will not be Platinums as such - but I've no doubt that like Sleeping Beauty, and possibly Peter Pan, Disney US will use the base content of these French releases as the groundworks of their Platinum releases.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 9:47 am
by Disneykid
Er....what happened to Starion's French list post...? :?

Either way, our release schedule is definitely not going to match theirs as Disney doesn't intend on any March platinum till 2005...The list said Cinderella for 2006...do you think we'll get it in 2005 before them?

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:24 am
by Disneykid
Aha, found it at animatedmovies.com.

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In case you guys can't read the pic or it doesn't show up, this is the schedule:

The Lion King-October 2003
Aladdin-March 2004
The Little Mermaid-October 2004
Bambi-March 2005
The Jungle Book-October 2005
Cinderella-March 2006
Lady and the Tramp-October 2006
101 Dalmatians-March 2007
Fantasia-October 2007

If the American release dates are similar to this (though how similar I can't say since we get only one platinum next year), then whose bright idea was it to release Cinderella after The Little Mermaid and Jungle Book when those two have already hit DVD??

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 11:33 am
by Cinderelly
then whose bright idea was it to release Cinderella after The Little Mermaid and Jungle Book when those two have already hit DVD??
Ditto x 1 million...... :roll:

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:27 pm
by Luke
I thought Cinderella WAS coming to France next spring and Mexico soon after? :?

I think I should just make every possible Platinum timeline and have the images change randomly every time you visit the FAQs. It'd probably be more accurate with Disney's latest plans...somewhere.

Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2003 12:32 pm
by Starion
Disneykid wrote:Er....what happened to Starion's French list post...? :?

Either way, our release schedule is definitely not going to match theirs as Disney doesn't intend on any March platinum till 2005...The list said Cinderella for 2006...do you think we'll get it in 2005 before them?
I found a duplicate in the International forum. http://www.ultimatedisney.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=832 There's no point in posting duplicate messages. :) Sorry for the confusion.