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Terri Schiavo...
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:33 pm
by betorh
Hi Guys I´m very angry with the things that happened with Terry bcause she is a woman and I dont think that this world is too bad to send to a woman directly to death!
What dou you think?
Hi
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 8:36 pm
by Disney Guru
Pardon my stupidity, but who is this "Terry" that you speak of ?

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:14 pm
by RJKD23
Schiavo. you know the one always on the news. parents vs. husband. feed her vs. stop. let her live vs. let her BE in peace.
that Terry.
betorh, you might want to be clear about that in your title..
i won't even discuss this topic because it'll start a controversy.
im silent. for once huh.

Hi
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:19 pm
by Disney Guru
Oh d'uh, I should have known, my mom has been talking about that issue a lot lately. I think that they should just let her die, she isn't even a live, she is just a limp body, her parents arn't thinking of her at all, her husband is the only one who really cares about her.
Re: Terry...
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:25 pm
by Loomis
betorh wrote:Hi Guys I´m very angry with the things that happened with Terry bcause she is a woman and I dont think that this world is too bad to send to a woman directly to death!
But sending a man to directly to death is ok, right?
Besides, I think half the problem is that she is not being sent directly to death, but rather slowly starved.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:40 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Well I think many of you can probably guess where I stand, and I do so strongly. I don't really want to see a debate flare up right now, though.
-Aaron
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 9:43 pm
by Loomis
awallaceunc wrote:Well I think many of you can probably guess where I stand, and I do so strongly. I don't really want to see a debate flare up right now, though.
I can guess, and I guess that you and I won't agree so I'll stay out of it too
Still, the relative merits of starving someone to death and letting them die peaceful could have been an interest, if heated, debate. (Look at me! I'm stirring!)
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:01 pm
by orestes.
I don't know the full story or very much but I don't like the idea that she is starving to death. I'd rather see her go with some kind of drug.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:08 pm
by RJKD23
awallaceunc wrote:Well I think many of you can probably guess where I stand, and I do so strongly.
Where do you stand, Aaron? I'm not trying to stir up a debate; I'm just curious.
Maybe it's all my psych classes and bio classes that I've taken... but I think that she should just be laid to rest in peace. It's just getting harder each day for her parents to see her in that state. Why continue with it..

And I know there are people out there who believe in miracles (I do.), but what happens when a miracle doesn't occur. As a parent, it is sad to see your child go before you do...but what can you do? Prolong her life...? I dunno.
But I don't want to continue this as it will (most likely) lead to a debate.
=X
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 10:14 pm
by orestes.
RJKD23 wrote:
Maybe it's all my psych classes and bio classes that I've taken... but I think that she should just be laid to rest in peace. It's just getting harder each day for her parents to see her in that state. Why continue with it..

And I know there are people out there who believe in miracles (I do.), but what happens when a miracle doesn't occur. As a parent, it is sad to see your child go before you do...but what can you do? Prolong her life...? I dunno.
But I don't want to continue this as it will (most likely) lead to a debate.
=X
That's basically how I feel but I'm not comfortable with the starving. I need to make a will... it's a good idea I'm told even though I'm not looking forward to it. I wonder what I could put down about a similar situation.
I wouldn't want to be starved to death I know that. Just inject me with something and end it quickly.
On a Canadian show recently they dealt with the subject of someone who was terminal and she wanted pills that would kill her quickly when things get bad. Well she used them kinda soon and the character is now being charged with murder. I wonder what will happen? That's all off-topic but it relates into the equation with the 'right to die' arguement which I'm still not 100% sure where I stand.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:28 pm
by Paka
Yes, betorh is speaking of Terr
i Schiavo, the woman who has been in a brain-dead, vegetative state for over 15 years in a Florida hospice. I'd suggest using
Google news to read up on the case. In the meantime, I changed your thread title to read more specifically, betorh.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:38 pm
by MickeyMousePal
Poor lady I mean Terri Schiavo. I feel really bad about this situation. The judge should just say to feed her. If it was his daughter or wife would he let them starve?
But it's in the courts hands.
Parents vs Husband I say the parents should win the husband cares less for his wife.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:43 pm
by orestes.
I believe the husband cares. I wouldn't say that.

Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:44 pm
by Loomis
MickeyMousePal wrote:Poor lady I mean Terri Schiavo the judge should just say to feed her. If it was his daughter or wife would he let them starve?
Parents vs Husband I say the parents should win the husband cares less for his wife.

I really didn't want to enter the debate, but that is quite possibly the silliest thing you ever said.
Firstly, you are saying that the courts should have a right over what we do to our bodies - neither side of the debate would agree with that. If it was the judges wife and daughter, I doubt very much he/she would want to see them suffer either, which is the heart of the whole debate: letting loved ones suffer vs. an outside notion of a right to life.
As for the second part of the comment, I'll let the absurdity of it speak for itself.
Posted: Mon Mar 28, 2005 11:58 pm
by MickeyMousePal
Loomis Wrote:
I really didn't want to enter the debate, but that is quite possibly the silliest thing you ever said.
Firstly, you are saying that the courts should have a right over what we do to our bodies - neither side of the debate would agree with that. If it was the judges wife and daughter, I doubt very much he/she would want to see them suffer either, which is the heart of the whole debate: letting loved ones suffer vs. an outside notion of a right to life.
As for the second part of the comment, I'll let the absurdity of it speak for itself.
Loomis I'm only writing what my heart is saying. I'm not making this a debate it's my opinion. This isn't justice this is torture. I'm not against it or with the judge decision but the courts do have more power. So letting Terry starve is the best answer? So how can the parents win?
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 12:14 am
by Lightyear
This case is a prime example of why you should have a living will in place, so that your wishes are followed without outside intervention.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 8:44 am
by danamichelle
I believe everybody has different opinions about what should happen in this case and I also do not want to discuss mine because I don't want to debate. However, one good thing that has come out of it is that everyone is probably talking about what they want to happen to them if they are in this type of situation and more people will get living wills as a result of this case.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:01 am
by Lightyear
I understand we all have our views on many subjects and many issues... But one thing I can never understand, never grasp.. is this..
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4325719/detail.html
These are the people that make the world a horrid place sometimes.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:23 am
by danamichelle
Lightyear wrote:I understand we all have our views on many subjects and many issues... But one thing I can never understand, never grasp.. is this..
http://www.nbc10.com/news/4325719/detail.html
These are the people that make the world a horrid place sometimes.
I don't understand why people do this either.

Anyone would threatens relatives, judges, attorney's, etc. is totally out of their mind.
Posted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 9:42 am
by 2099net
Just read this:
http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/0 ... 05107.html
And then wonder about the whole publicity grabbing taint on the whole affair. And also consider most of the funding for keeping Terry alive is coming from the soon to be slashed Medicaid funds. How does keeping one person alive, against their Husband's wishes compare to the countless deaths which will be the result, either directly, or indirectly, of those cuts?
I've seen enough ERs to know that, when it comes to medical decisions, it is the husband or wife who has the final say. Cases like this must have happened, and will continue to happen throughout modern histroy.