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How can 'Pirates', 'Pacifier' be Disney with swearing?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:33 pm
by Lion King
How can it be a Disney movie if it has cus words in it ? I never suspected very famous actors such as Jhonny Depp, and Orlando Bloom to be featured in a Disney movie, and who ever thought of Vin Diesel to be in a Disney movie (Pacifier) usually hes mostly action not a baby sitter taking care of children.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:44 pm
by PublicEnemy#1

Huh? They're Disney films because they were made by the studio. Simple as that. And I don't know about the Pacifier but PotC has cussing in it.

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:53 pm
by Escapay
Apparently in PotC, Johnny Depp was able to slip in a f*ck.
And I didn't hear any cussing in Pacifier. Maybe a few "synonyms-for-posterior", but nothing else.
And since when has it been a rule that any Disney movie cannot have cussing? Miramax and Touchstone are both Disney in some form since Disney owns Miramax and created Touchstone (IIRC), and there are plenty of films by both companies that have cussing.
But if you're referring to a genuine produced and distributed by Disney film, then no, hardly any have cussing. Disney is equated with good family fun, and if you slip in a s, f, or b word, you'll have the stick-up-the-ass peeps crying foul.
Escapay
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 6:58 pm
by Just Myself
They cut Johnny's F word out of the DVD, but Orlando still says bastard.
Pacifier has Damn and Ass in it, so does The Haunted Mansion. But just cause they use mild swear words doesn't mean the quality goes down. Another movie that uses curse words is Cool Runnings, when Yul Brenner calls the Russian(dun remember if that's right) dude the biggest asshole in the world, but that's still my favorite live action Disney movie(okay, second behind National Treasure.

)!

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:12 pm
by Luke
Lion King, as much as we love the suspense of clicking on threads that end in ellipses, it's best to be clear in your title what you're talking about. For instance, if you're asking a question about a possible DVD, you'd want to use a question mark in the thread title. If you have some wicked awesome news scoop, you'll want not to put a question mark on the thread title, but probably a couple of exclamation marks followed by a 1.
Now the last bit of information didn't apply to this thread, but it seems like you could learn a lot about how things operate in this new-found forum of yours. Don't take this the wrong way. Everyone was a "newbie" at one time at some point over the past two years, and since most have become used to common practices. You'll catch on, I'm sure.
Welcome to the forum!

Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:20 pm
by Little Red Henski
Kill Bill is a Disney movie & it's loaded with cursing.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:29 pm
by Luke
Little Red Henski wrote:Kill Bill is a Disney movie & it's loaded with cursing.
Well, technically so are <i>Trainspotting</i>, <i>Pulp Fiction</i>, and <i>Gangs of New York</i>. Far from family-friendly! But of course, it's pretty clear that our eager new poster is talking about films which bear the Walt Disney Pictures label.
If we're going to question Disney material, then we'll have to go back to 1980, when <i>Midnight Madness</i> became the first to talk of "melons"!
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:44 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Just Myself wrote:They cut Johnny's F word out of the DVD, but Orlando still says bastard.
Was it prominent in the theatrical cut? I saw it in theaters don't remember that. If it was in the theatrical cut, it should not have been cut out of the DVD. I want POTC to stay family-friendly, but I also want the original cuts of films... it at least could have been included as a bonus feature. Where in the movie was it?
-Aaron
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 7:47 pm
by Just Myself
awallaceunc wrote:Just Myself wrote:They cut Johnny's F word out of the DVD, but Orlando still says bastard.
Was it prominent in the theatrical cut? I saw it in theaters don't remember that. If it was in the theatrical cut, it should not have been cut out of the DVD. I want POTC to stay family-friendly, but I also want the original cuts of films... it at least could have been included as a bonus feature. Where in the movie was it?
-Aaron
When Elizabeth was making the fire on the island by burning the rum, he utters 'F*ck' in his sleep. The scene is still in there, they just dubbed over it.
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:23 pm
by Sunset Girl
Just Myself wrote:When Elizabeth was making the fire on the island by burning the rum, he utters 'F*ck' in his sleep. The scene is still in there, they just dubbed over it.
Well, it must be very discreet as I saw this movie
seven times in the theater (don't ask why, let's just say I don't typically do that). And the person with me did not catch it, either. Is it possible that people were reading too much into it and misinterpreted and overreacted? You know, like Donald in the Clock Cleaners?
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2005 8:49 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Interesting. Now that you've described the scene, I seem to remember this being discussed here before, but I still don't think I remember it in the movies because I left being a tad puzzled by the hype over its PG-13 rating.
-Aaron
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:33 pm
by Ciaobelli
Thank God Disney is growing some %&@*#!!!
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:39 pm
by Loomis
Ciaobelli wrote:Thank God Disney is growing some %&@*#!!!
Amen to that!
I think for too long, Disney - and all the major studios, but especially Disney - have catered to the outraged minority of letter writers. That's why we have cuts to various package features, and still no sign of 'Song of the South' in the US. They attempt to maintain what they consider is a family image, despite the fact that what they consider to be family hasn't been that way since the 1950s (if it ever really was that way in the first place).
Anyone who found PotC offensive needs to have their head examined anyways - it is a fun ride.
Although people like to think that Disney is their little company, the fact remains that they are a big corporation that wants to make money. If that means Disney FINALLY changes with the times, then yay! They are still making "family" pictures, but that's why we have ratings - to easily see what content is in each film.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:43 pm
by RJKD23
Loomis wrote:Ciaobelli wrote:Thank God Disney is growing some %&@*#!!!
Amen to that!
I think for too long, Disney - and all the major studios, but especially Disney - have catered to the outraged minority of letter writers. That's why we have cuts to various package features, and still no sign of 'Song of the South' in the US. They attempt to maintain what they consider is a family image, despite the fact that what they consider to be family hasn't been that way since the 1950s (if it ever really was that way in the first place).
Anyone who found PotC offensive needs to have their head examined anyways - it is a fun ride.
Although people like to think that Disney is their little company, the fact remains that they are a big corporation that wants to make money. If that means Disney FINALLY changes with the times, then yay! They are still making "family" pictures, but that's why we have ratings - to easily see what content is in each film.

to the two comments!

Disney's growing up. and changing!
i don't think there's anything wrong with that...

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:49 pm
by PatrickvD
agreed, good thing Disney is growing up. I wish more live action films got the Disney label. I'm happy movies like Pirates, National Treasure and the upcoming Lion Witch and Wardrobe have the Disney logo all over it. I hate it how Disney's live action films were all politically correct G rated movies. Like Ciaobelli said, Disney is finaly growing some *&^%$@

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 3:58 pm
by Sunset Girl
Well, I'm all for it as long as it fits in with the context and mood of the film.
This is reminding me of certain live-action flicks from the eighties and how they'd tack on one or two swear words *just* so that the film would be rated PG instead of G, with the reasoning that *no one* went to rated G films anymore.

Now *that* is annoying!
But these new films seems a little more "grown up" overall, so this kind of stuff fits better here, I guess.
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 5:23 pm
by Ciaobelli
Loomis wrote:Ciaobelli wrote:Thank God Disney is growing some %&@*#!!!
Amen to that!
I think for too long, Disney - and all the major studios, but especially Disney - have catered to the outraged minority of letter writers. That's why we have cuts to various package features, and still no sign of 'Song of the South' in the US. They attempt to maintain what they consider is a family image, despite the fact that what they consider to be family hasn't been that way since the 1950s (if it ever really was that way in the first place).
Anyone who found PotC offensive needs to have their head examined anyways - it is a fun ride.
Although people like to think that Disney is their little company, the fact remains that they are a big corporation that wants to make money. If that means Disney FINALLY changes with the times, then yay! They are still making "family" pictures, but that's why we have ratings - to easily see what content is in each film.
Well said.
Hopefully less Disney films will be hidden behind the Touchstone or Miramax labels. I mean, imagine if Pulp Fiction had the Disney label, that would be the coolest thing ever

Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:38 pm
by Isidour
Wait a second!!!!!!!!!
Pulp fiction it´s Disney?!?!!?!??!
this is truth?!?!?!?
Man, Tarantino and Disney....
but hey, have you heard the ¿swear? "a pain in the...--another word for donkey

--"? well, how about if you change the ass for a painfeathers?
that´s a dialogue of the friend owl in Bambi
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 6:43 pm
by Sunset Girl
Well, let us not forget the awesome Disney movie under the Disney label, "Flight of the Navigator," which is rated PG. It has the word s**t in it, a fact that I was not aware of until I replaced my VHS I taped off of Disney channel with the recently released DVD. I was rather surprised.
But from what I remember, it was not actually made by the Disney folks, they were just the distributor. But still, I couldn't believe it! We're talking about 1986 here, people!
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2005 7:50 pm
by Just Myself
The 1980's had a way of bending rules. They say 'Fuck' in Big twice, and it was PG. Had this been today, it would be an R. Really pathetic when you think about it.