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What can a Disney movie really be worth?

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:25 pm
by purplebluelove99
What is the highest price that a Disney video or dvd can go for? I mean after it's been in the vault for a while. I remember about 8 years ago I called around town looking for The Little Mermaid on video, and someone quoted me $300.00 cad. I wasn't about to pay that much. But I knew of someone who paid an outrageus amount for their copy. Oh yeah this was before it was released on dvd. The reason I am asking is because I am wondering if it's worth it to keep all my vhs copies even after I change over to dvd.? Thanks.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 4:43 pm
by singerguy04
maybe... i have a feeling that vhs will be considered antiques someday and will be treated the same way that old vinyl records are today. I could imagine that they will become rare disney collectibles, especially if they are taken care of and can be played years from now.

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:01 pm
by thatartguy
singerguy04 wrote:I have a feeling that vhs will be considered antiques someday and will be treated the same way that old vinyl records are today.
Possibly... for ones that haven't been released in any other format, or would be the initial release. Otherwise, I doubt it. The same holds true for 8-track tapes.

The thing about tapes is that they have a 100% failure rate, no matter how well they are taken care of. What's worse is the fact that companies use the lowest grade tape possible for prerecorded movies. Records and CD's, however will last a lifetime if take care of properly. CD's also can hold more data, more reliably. Why pay$1,000+ for an old pressing of a Beatles record when you can get a remastered CD for $18.99?

The only entertainment medium that doesn't update older copyrighted works onto newer technology is the video game industry. If you want to play Donkey Kong the way it was originally presented you would have to get the actual arcade machine. (No, emulation and ports aren't the same.)

Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:09 pm
by Jeremy
It's important for me to save the old VHS's. They can someday be collectibles and valuable, who knows. And you can watch these movies without restorations and compare them wiht DVD-versions of the same film.
I will never sell my Disney VHS-collection! 8)

the reason VHS will be worthless

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 12:19 am
by Cameron
The Reason vynil records hold value is because that is the original release format. Vhs is secondary to film. So while the film would be worth something in the future, vhs will not hold value....except in the case when titles are unreleased, or edited. All Disney VHS is edited for the sheer fact that they are full frame. VHS is built to fail. The quality will not maintain, as it sits on your shelf it is rotting.

I also believe that with digital technology, that disney dvd will never be worth as much as the tapes were. The Internet and dvd make it easy to download movies (I do not condone this)...as mentioned above, a few years back the only way you could get a movie was to call around and pay outragous prices... now internet sites provide an easier way to find obscure titles, both official and bootleg.

hmmm

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:01 am
by The Animator
I never thought about this. I wouldn'd throw them out because there is no reason to. the worst thing that could happen is that the tapes won't be worth much, and what's the harm? A little less storage space and some dusty tapes... Besides, getting a DVD player doesn't mean you should throw out the VHS one, maybe someday, when you're feeling nostalgic you could hook it up to the TV and watch some classic movies in the old 90's quality...

Hi

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 9:56 am
by Disney Guru
It depends on the movies. Some movies like Dr.Syn Alias The Scarecrow, sell for over $245. On E-Bay. Some like Child Of Glass sell for over $150. And Snowball Express on VHS, even though the dvd came out when you sell the origional clamshell edition you can still get $65 for it.

VHS

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:09 pm
by Owlzindabarn
Yeah, but the thing is, the second those same movies are released on dvd, the secondary (ebay) market for old vhs stuff drops out. There is very little that HASN'T been released on dvd by this point, so old videos are kind of selling lukewarm on ebay right now (I checked...the most I saw was about $25 for a 1988 Cinderella video).

I'd keep the old videos, though, because they're fun to have and look nice.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 1:30 pm
by Lars Vermundsberget
Well, in the mid-90s a few Disney titles on laserdisc had a market value in the $2000 range. Quite a few more would go for $200-300. LD rereleases and DVD made the prices drop, though.

I have my doubts about VHS as truly valuable collectibles, but, by all means, take care of them.

Posted: Thu Feb 17, 2005 5:35 pm
by deathie mouse
o_0 Did anyone say Beatles *_*
;)


ok dethi stream of conciousness comments. I agree and disagree. the reason old vinyls is still so valuable is 2 pronged.

One is the collectible side of things, the "original" "issue" and historical facts etc, etc, and in a way the vinyl is like the release prints and the vhs isn't, but at the same time the vinyl is not the original master tape as a theatrical print is not the original camera negative so it has smilarities to the vhs too. makes sense? no? Dust? anyone? no?

But the real reason vinyl is highly regarded is usually because of 2 things that the mayority of its CD brethen has not: Graphics, those huge 12" covers vs a tiny 5" one (heh reminds me of Blu vs dvd :twisted:) and most important: Better sound! The CD can actually sound much worse in audio quality (3rd genaration masters, wrong tapes, bad or wrong kind of playback equipment to make the CD masters, use of "no noise" excesively and other sound destroying techniques, and even garbage sounding analog to digital converters used in the process) so the vinyl could be THE better sounding version of the recording available. You can find a lot of cases that the LP sounds better than the CD, heh you can find that the 1983 CD sounds better than the 2003 CD too! As for the Beatles albums on the original CDs most sound very harsh and have lots of mastering mistakes and some of this supposedly original album versions are NOT even the ORIGINAL recodings but remixes made 25 years after the fact without any Beatle involvement whatsoever. As for some of the latest "remasters", Beatles "1" is actually considered the worst ever Beatle CD soundwise. I don't even own it and can't stand it myself :P And lets not talk about Apple not releasing the MONO or STEREO versions of some of them which can only be gotten now on $$$$ vinyl. I can say no more ;)

Also many CDs even when made from the correct original tapes using the latest and the greatest have their "sound" changed in the mastering on purpose so it no longer sounds like the original, it may sound more modern but it looses tha authentic feel, or it could sound totally wrong, Hey it's a remaster, it has to sound different, no?

So sometimes a high quality mastered/pressed Lp that is in top condition can still be top of the game for now.

Well with Video, on the case of VHS the quality is ussualy the worst cus of the huge loss of resolution and the high speed dubbing of the process. Some may be highly sought out by their rarity or collectability or place in video releases history, or a few cus the video edition may have a mix or colors/"look" or a feature nowhere else available or their sentimental value. Dvds, specially when out of print and having a unique set of features are usally the Top of the Game right now so unless a better version that has everything the other ones doesn't or has improved quality comes along, their value can go high.

But DVD's still are a far way from having true 35mm quality (mainly on the resolution/sharpness/enlargeability side) so some improved version format one day will come along.

Theres always two kinds of collecting on media stuff: by collectibility's sake itself or for best/unique version avaiable.

Laserdisc still have some value now cus A: some have unique features/supplements found nowhere else B: some have better versions in a couple of parameters (like better Stereo Sound than Dolby 2.0 in some cases for example)and of course look bettr than VHS, and dont forget those huge 12" covers and booklets. (The T2 Box case is so cool 12" hi res pics of the Metal Skeleton and The Goverminator as you take them out, etc etc, plus the ones that still havent gotten released in DVD yet or the DVD is still pan scanned, lost the original soudtrack elements in their way to DVD, etc, etc.
And C: they're cool 8) (12" DVDs! Impress your friends :P)

The moment a remastered or HiDef version of a DVD title comes out you can see price fluctuate. If it's later made known to the general public the old DVD had certain quality or essential feature that the new version hasn't the price may or may not go up again (depending on the number of people who know/want/need/can be botthered to track this edition, sometimes a obscure gem can be found cheap by the connossiour) The digital nature of the files might alleviate/change the availability of such out of reach gems too for the quaility collector, a different situation/market that the analog/true original object collector faces.. :twisted:


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