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Vomit with rage people, according to an article in TIME magazine. Eisner makes a comment about one of its only few successful ABC series to author of DisneyWar, James B. Stewart.

In reference to one of my favorite TV shows Lost, Eisner quotes "Lost is terrible. Who cares about these people stuck on a deserted island?"

I think Eisner will care should he ever decide to cancel this show and ABC should suddenly "goes under"!!!

toonaspie wrote:Vomit with rage people, according to an article in TIME magazine. Eisner makes a comment about one of its only few successful ABC series to author of DisneyWar, James B. Stewart.

In reference to one of my favorite TV shows Lost, Eisner quotes "Lost is terrible. Who cares about these people stuck on a deserted island?"

I think Eisner will care should he ever decide to cancel this show and ABC should suddenly "goes under"!!!

Where did you find this quote?

I'm kind of skeptical, because there are two scenarios here. 1) He was misquoted, or quoted out of context or 2) He's a moron who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

If 2) is the case, then he's really gotta be more careful of his words because they'll come back and bite him (much like his comments about Pixar). Eisner has to realize that he's constantly under media and public scrutiny, and thus has to be classy about things. If you don't like something, keep it under your hat, don't go out in public and start trashing it.

It's a little something called having class and dignity, and it seems to be something Eisner is loosing quickly in my eyes

Jayden wrote:

toonaspie wrote:Vomit with rage people, according to an article in TIME magazine. Eisner makes a comment about one of its only few successful ABC series to author of DisneyWar, James B. Stewart.

In reference to one of my favorite TV shows Lost, Eisner quotes "Lost is terrible. Who cares about these people stuck on a deserted island?"

I think Eisner will care should he ever decide to cancel this show and ABC should suddenly "goes under"!!!

Where did you find this quote?

I'm kind of skeptical, because there are two scenarios here. 1) He was misquoted, or quoted out of context or 2) He's a moron who doesn't know when to shut his mouth.

If 2) is the case, then he's really gotta be more careful of his words because they'll come back and bite him (much like his comments about Pixar). Eisner has to realize that he's constantly under media and public scrutiny, and thus has to be classy about things. If you don't like something, keep it under your hat, don't go out in public and start trashing it.

It's a little something called having class and dignity, and it seems to be something Eisner is loosing quickly in my eyes

http://www.lost-media.com/modules.php?n ... =0&thold=0

Of course, it should be pointed out that that statement was made before "Lost" became a hit. Eisner is also quoted in the book as saying <i>Finding Nemo</i> isn't that good and will open, but won't put up Pixar's regularly robust numbers.

Luke wrote:Of course, it should be pointed out that that statement was made before "Lost" became a hit. Eisner is also quoted in the book as saying <i>Finding Nemo</i> isn't that good and will open, but won't put up Pixar's regularly robust numbers.

oh didnt catch the lines "reationalized having to oppose it" Either way it shows that Eisner lacks a good taste in the creative work

Old news I posted this already.

I can see how it might be hard to predict if a show or movie might fail but being him you'd think he would have a better understanding.

Even though I'm not a fan of his, I happen to pretty much agree with Eisner, on both Lost and Nemo. I couldn't sit through 1 episode of that show, and Nemo is my least favorite Pixar film by quite a bit. I think it's kind of dumb to harshly critisize him for his opinions just because we don't like him being CEO, and because those properties turned out to be hits. Wether he was expressing his personal viewpoint, or saying how he thinks the public would react to it, its no reason to say he has "poor taste" - this happens all the time to other studio heads too.

Oh no! Eisner showed a lapse in judgement.

Good job he didn't show a lapse when he invested in Pixar's first full length CGI movie. Or when he invested all that money in Pirates of the Caribbean. Or when he actually bought ABC in the first place, which otherwise would make the whole Lost issue none existant in the first place.

Or when he okayed Pearl Harbor. Well, scratch the last one.

Try defending Eisner on this one... he probably shouldn't have said this:

http://www.latimes.com/business/printed ... &cset=true

I'm sure Glen Keane's doing some really nice stuff with the humans in Rapunzel, but the Incredibles has the best human CG animation I've ever seen... at least so far... and it's hardly "pathetic." Eisner's going down in a blaze of glory. He's made some good decisions along the way, but lately he would probably do well to shut his yap.

2099net wrote:Oh no! Eisner showed a lapse in judgement.

Good job he didn't show a lapse when he invested in Pixar's first full length CGI movie. Or when he invested all that money in Pirates of the Caribbean. Or when he actually bought ABC in the first place, which otherwise would make the whole Lost issue none existant in the first place.

Or when he okayed Pearl Harbor. Well, scratch the last one.

It's not really a lapse in judgement in terms of his opinions, he's allowed to have them. It's a lapse in judement in terms of what he is voicing. He's the CEO of the biggest animation companies in the history of the world and should be more careful about what he says because it'll be the public scrutinizing him. He just has to show a little dignity when speaking in public, something he seems to be loosing with everything he says.

By all means, allow him his own opinions. I have mine, but I'm selective of what I say in public to allow me to keep my dignity. Eisner is loosing his dignity because he's taking low blows at certain things that people enjoy.

Jack wrote:Even though I'm not a fan of his, I happen to pretty much agree with Eisner, on both Lost and Nemo. I couldn't sit through 1 episode of that show, and Nemo is my least favorite Pixar film by quite a bit. I think it's kind of dumb to harshly critisize him for his opinions just because we don't like him being CEO, and because those properties turned out to be hits. Wether he was expressing his personal viewpoint, or saying how he thinks the public would react to it, its no reason to say he has "poor taste" - this happens all the time to other studio heads too.

The difference though between you and Eisner is that you are on the consumer side so it doesn't matter so much if you don't like it. He instead should be more confident of the material that puts food on HIS table, he should have more faith in the mouse.

Ciaobelli wrote:The difference though between you and Eisner is that you are on the consumer side so it doesn't matter so much if you don't like it. He instead should be more confident of the material that puts food on HIS table, he should have more faith in the mouse.

So he's not allowed to have an opinion? Or is he only allowed to say that he thinks all the Disney properties are stupendous? Its a common thing for people in the lead to express their opinions on things to those in the company. Of course, it would be unproffesional if he were to broadcast his opinions of the various studio projects to the public before they're released, but he's not doing that - they're only coming to light now because the things he commented on turned out to be successes. Think of all the times we haven't heard about, when he may have been actually dead on in his predicitons/opinions?

Jack wrote:

Ciaobelli wrote:The difference though between you and Eisner is that you are on the consumer side so it doesn't matter so much if you don't like it. He instead should be more confident of the material that puts food on HIS table, he should have more faith in the mouse.

So he's not allowed to have an opinion? Or is he only allowed to say that he thinks all the Disney properties are stupendous? Its a common thing for people in the lead to express their opinions on things to those in the company. Of course, it would be unproffesional if he were to broadcast his opinions of the various studio projects to the public before they're released, but he's not doing that - they're only coming to light now because the things he commented on turned out to be successes. Think of all the times we haven't heard about, when he may have been actually dead on in his predicitons/opinions?

You are right. But the fact that he didn't have faith in Pixar, he thinks 2d sucks and that noone wants to see mickey mouse irks me.

He's certainly entitled to his opinion, so he can't be faulted for that, as much as I dislike him for the company. However, it's not smart for a CEO to downtalk his own products. For example, to say that Pixar's human animation isn't very good when it's a currently-in-theaters Disney film that they animated humans in isn't at all smart. But that's been Eisner's problem all along (or at least recently). He's not good with communication, PR, and the like, and seems to be losing touch with his business sense.

-Aaron

I agree with awallaceunc. There was a reason why eisner became the CEO of the largest animation studio in history. Fame and fortune does things to people, some even begin to lose talent because their ideals change, I honestly believe that Eisner wanted good for the company, hence the disney decade, but his ideals have changed and i think he thinks that he's bigger than disney overall. He's wrong, but it's all psychological and maybe he doesn't even realize he's acting this way. That's probably why he says the things he says and makes the decisions he does. I guess my point for this ramble is that Eisner has done good and bad, but i think his time as the CEO for disney should be drawing near an end before he does more bad.

Is it possible that the remark was sarcastic, and actually aimed at a similar TV series: SURVIVOR?

For once in my natural born life, I kinda agree with Eisner.