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Is Bambi available in Widescreen?
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:02 am
by tooniac
Just watched Bambi for the first time ever and i have to say it's a terrific film - but can anyone tell me definitevely if a widescreen version is available? Mine is in full frame and though I checked play and amazon I wanted to make sure there isn't one, as I always, always buy WS if possible (and I assumed Bambi would be WS). If there isn't one, does anyone know why?
Thank you.
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:05 am
by Wonderlicious
There's no need to fear, tooniac. And there's also no need to re-buy! Why? Because Bambi, like many films from the forties and early fifties was made before widescreen was introduced into film making, so you don't have to worry about what's missing at the sides, as nothing is!
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:10 am
by ichabod
Just to make a check list for you the films that should be fullscreen are:
Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs
Pinocchio
Fantasia
Dumbo
Bambi
Saludos Amigos
The Three Caballeros
Make Mine Music
Fun and Fancy Free
Melody Time
The Adventures of Ichabod and Mr. Toad
Cinderella
Alice in Wonderland
Peter Pan
101 Dalmatians
The Sword in the Stone
The Jungle Book
The Aristocats
Robin Hood
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Also The Fox and the Hound proves a bone of contention as no one is really sure whether it should be full or widescreen!
Anything that it not on that list should be widescreen!
Also if you wany to know about some live action (although this list mostly refers to R1) you can have a look here:
http://www.ultimatedisney.com/panandscan.html
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:30 am
by tooniac
Thanks guys! Glad I haven't bought the wrong thing, and I appreciate that list. Interesting that Sleeping Beauty was widescreen - and then they went back to full frame??? Was SB an experiment?
Anyway, I'm glad I've got the only bambi edition available, that would have really annoyed me if a WS had been available and I'd missed it!
Posted: Wed Feb 16, 2005 10:38 am
by ichabod
tooniac wrote:Thanks guys! Glad I haven't bought the wrong thing, and I appreciate that list. Interesting that Sleeping Beauty was widescreen - and then they went back to full frame??? Was SB an experiment?
Both Lady and the Tramp and Sleeping Beuaty were widescreen, Technirama 70 which is basically the same thing as cinemascope, although don't let detahie hear me say that otherwise it will be lecture-o-rama!
I'm not really sure why they went back to fullscreen, but the films after SB were often "open matte" which means they could be made widescreen by chopping of a bit from the top and the bottom of the image, so that they looked widescrenn when shown in theatres.
Posted: Sun Aug 28, 2005 9:47 pm
by teamfx
Wonderlicious wrote:There's no need to fear, tooniac. And there's also no need to re-buy? Why? Because Bambi, like many films from the forties and early fifties was made before widescreen was introduced into film making, so you don't have to worry about what's missing at the sides, as nothing is!
In case you were wondering, the HDTV broadcast from this past summer on "The Wonderful World of Disney" also maintained the original academy ratio.
Posted: Mon Aug 29, 2005 11:19 pm
by triwit
Thanks for your list, Ichabod.

Posted: Tue Aug 30, 2005 7:51 am
by Isidour
hey,but if you want to watch it on Widescreen, you can put it as an option on your DVD player or TV--in case of Sony)the only thing is that the characters will look really strange

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:45 am
by deathie mouse
ichabod wrote:Both Lady and the Tramp and Sleeping Beuaty were widescreen, Technirama 70 which is basically the same thing as cinemascope, although don't let detahie hear me say that otherwise it will be lecture-o-rama!
ahh but.. you can run but you can't hide
Sleeping Beauty was Technirama but
Lady and the Tramp WAS Cinemascope.
And btw Technirama 70 is basically a fancy name for Technirama shot films intended to be printed or advertised as 70mm. A 22mm x 48mm 70mm print from a 24mm x 36mm Technirama negative is mainly an optical horizontal blow up, and a 18mm x 21mm 35mm anamorphic print from Technirama is an optical reduction in both directions.
Technirama 35 Technirama 70. It's all from the 24mm x 36mm Technirama negative.
ichabod also wrote:Just to make a check list for you the films that should be fullscreen are:
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101 Dalmatians
The Sword in the Stone
The Jungle Book
The Aristocats
Robin Hood
The Many Adventures of Winnie the Pooh
Also The Fox and the Hound proves a bone of contention as no one is really sure whether it should be full or widescreen!
...
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Mmm you shoulda kinda woulda when you canna update that list and add asteriscs for those films and say: "*Shot in open matte intended to be projected in widescreen." as you state a few posts below

And include Fox in there.
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 1:56 am
by ichabod
deathie mouse wrote:Mmm you shoulda kinda woulda when you canna update that list and add asteriscs for those films and say: "*Shot in open matte intended to be projected in widescreen." as you state a few posts below

And include Fox in there.
Sorry by my rules Open Matte negates intended for widescreen thetarical display!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:11 am
by deathie mouse
Then acording to your rule 90% of films shot after 1955 should be "full screen" cus they're all shot open matte
Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 2:32 am
by ichabod
deathie mouse wrote:Then acording to your rule 90% of films shot after 1955 should be "full screen" cus they're all shot open matte
That's the plan!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:14 am
by deathie mouse
So you'd prefer to watch Batman and Goldfinger and The Madness Of King George (What what?) and other Widescreen films in 1.37 on your 16:9 display instead of in 1.85?
And watch Austin Power and other Super-35 films in 1.78 instead of 2.39?
Oh behave!
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Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:24 am
by Disney-Fan
For me widescreen is more pleasant to the eye since there's less going on on the screen, whereas with fullscreen you have to focus your eye on the whole screen. Open matte or not, when it's intended, I'd pick widescreen any day!

Posted: Wed Aug 31, 2005 10:40 am
by ichabod
deathie mouse wrote:So you'd prefer to watch Batman and Goldfinger and The Madness Of King George (What what?) and other Widescreen films in 1.37 on your 16:9 display instead of in 1.85?
And watch Austin Power and other Super-35 films in 1.78 instead of 2.39?
Oh behave!
I'm just messing with ya!
Of course I would rather watch them in there correct ratio, but for some reason with with those Disney films, I prefer the Open Matte versions, as there is more picture, and for some reason with animation, i hate the idea of someone's hard work, being chopped off to make a widescreen print. Not sure why, perhaps it's the art lover in me crying out!

Posted: Fri Sep 02, 2005 1:02 pm
by teamfx
ichabod wrote:Of course I would rather watch them in there correct ratio, but for some reason with with those Disney films, I prefer the Open Matte versions, as there is more picture, and for some reason with animation, i hate the idea of someone's hard work, being chopped off to make a widescreen print.

That would be so much so for most CGI animated films, which usually get reformatted for 1.33:1 format further down the line for broadcast and video release. It's nice to get to see what you didn't see before in either standard formatting for films from Pixar. Thank heaven for frame height.
