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Is this 101 Dalmatians DVD real???

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:30 pm
by Disney Villain
Is this OOP 101 Dalmatians DVD real or fake???

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vi ... 23364&rd=1

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 7:38 pm
by AwallaceUNC
Well the seller is That1GuyPictures; he is a UD member, so you can just PM him for yourself and ask. :) It all looks on the up and up to me as far as I can tell, though.

-Aaron

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 9:19 pm
by Key
Looks real. It has the BVHE stamp on the shrinkwrap as well as the "Free Disney DVD" sticker.

I'd say there's a 99.9999% chance it's authentic. ;)

Posted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 10:25 pm
by saving107
seller has a 100% feedback, that is a good sign.

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 8:56 pm
by rb_canadian181
Well I guess the question you can ask yourself is "what would it take to confirm it's authenticity"?. I don't think dalmatians is one that's copied nearly as much as the mermaid dvd but im no expert in deciding whether it's real or not. worth a shot :wink: but if you have questions-ask!

Posted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 10:31 pm
by Disney Villain
Thanks for all your help!!! I decided to purshace this DVD. I'll let you know how it is when i get it. :D Thanks again :D

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:05 pm
by Disney Villain
Hey i just received the DVD in the mail today. It plays fine. The menu's are fine, and the movie is greatly restored. If anyone has pics of the menus and disc art of this dvd, please post them. Thanks for the help!!! :D

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:33 pm
by Maerj
As long as it arrived looking exactly like it does in the picture, I'd say its for real. Bootlegs do not come shrinkwrapped with the BVHE logo on it, stickers and the coupons/Disney paperwork inside. As long as it is sealed and has that stuff, chances are you got the real deal and for a great price. Good job!

Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 6:49 pm
by Just Myself
I'd think our very own That1GuyPictures would be ashamed if we mistook it as fake. ;)

Posted: Wed Jan 05, 2005 9:44 am
by Disney Villain
Thanks for all your Help!!!
It has the Buena Vista seal. A chapter insert, and the original coupons inside. It's 100% real.

Thanks again for all your help. :D :D

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:44 am
by DaeLex
Sorta off topic but... LOL fullscreen is not the original aspect ratio and its a misprint on the package on another one again... This movie is actually widescreen.

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:40 am
by Nevermore
Wish i had that movie! :cry:

Posted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 8:28 am
by Jayden
Daelex wrote:Sorta off topic but... LOL fullscreen is not the original aspect ratio and its a misprint on the package on another one again... This movie is actually widescreen.
I hate to break it to you, but Fullscreen is the proper ratio for this movie, as it was made prior to Disney creating their movies in widescreen. With the exceptions of Lady and the Tramp and Sleeping Beauty all of Disney's animated movies prior to The Rescuers were created in the Academy Ratio, which is very close to 1:33.1 (Fullscreen).

So, fullscreen is OAR, now are you saying that this movie is in widescreen on this disc? If so, how come no one here has mentioned anything about it? I find it odd that this is something that would be overlooked by Luke when he stated that every Disney movie (with the possible exception of Fox and the Hound) is available on DVD in it's proper OAR

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 9:56 am
by Ballzo
That is the real deal and not a bootleg! Great Buy!

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:11 pm
by The Little Merman
That is definatley real, plus That1GuyPictures is a member of UD :D !!!

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 4:39 pm
by Dan05
I'm pretty sure thats real, thats the cover I have on my VHS

Posted: Tue Mar 08, 2005 8:11 pm
by littlefuzzy
Maerj wrote:As long as it arrived looking exactly like it does in the picture, I'd say its for real. Bootlegs do not come shrinkwrapped with the BVHE logo on it, stickers and the coupons/Disney paperwork inside. As long as it is sealed and has that stuff, chances are you got the real deal and for a great price. Good job!
Actually, there is at least one seller who is bootlegging those items as well...

There have been a couple of threads on it, although I don't remember if any of them were here. There was one at DVDTalk.com and one at www.intervocative.com (DVD Profiler.)

The legit discs have a rough matte surface where part of the artwork is rough and part is smooth (different colors, etc.)

The bootleg disc in the other threads had a smooth matte finish.

Dethi the heretic

Posted: Wed Mar 09, 2005 2:28 pm
by deathie mouse
Daelex wrote:Sorta off topic but... LOL fullscreen is not the original aspect ratio and its a misprint on the package on another one again... This movie is actually widescreen.

and Jayden said:

I hate to break it to you, but Fullscreen is the proper ratio for this movie, as it was made prior to Disney creating their movies in widescreen. With the exceptions of Lady and the Tramp and Sleeping Beauty all of Disney's animated movies prior to The Rescuers were created in the Academy Ratio, which is very close to 1:33.1 (Fullscreen).
I hate to do an I hate to break it but 101 is a widescreen film :P and it wasn't made prior Disney making movies in widescreen it was done 5 years after that :P What Disney did was to keep on shooting them on the same sequential Technicolor Academy camera so they were shot open matte but composed for widescreen. That they can be shown in "Fullscreen" as any other open matte shot widescreen movie don't make them any less widescreen

Everytime I've seen Dalmatians in a movie house it has been in widescreen and it isn't on a weird crop error ya know. I was looking specifically for that as i knew the video editions were "square". On the other hand, if you take an Academy composed movie and you crop it for widescreen it looks bad. (Believe me I saw a projection of Hitchcock's Strangers on a Train in widescreen and it was ruined.)

Open matte is very convinient cus you can do fullscreen versions for TV without destroying the widescreen image as when you do pan/scan. I'm sure Disney was very aware of the TV market and other situations where they might not show movies in widescreen. He even shot an Academy version of the Cinemascope Lady of the Tramp. With open matte he didnt have to do that anymore.

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The Video editions can have the OAR, as they aren't panned scanned, you just have to extract the center of the frame just like it's done in a theater for all non Scope movies. If a projectionist took off the Projector Aperture plate on a Standart Widescreen movie you'd see the "fullscreen" image spill above and below the (wide)screen onto the ceiling and floor, because to this day shooting widescreen films with open matte non widescreen cameras is still being done. Now EVEN many Cinemascope wide (2.39) films are being shot in open matte too (Super-35), so dont be surprised if in 50 years people think T2/Matrix/LOR/Underworld/Austin are just 1.78 wide instead of 2.39 wide cus HDTV broadcasts used the 1.78 open matte version showing more top and bottom.

As whereter you might prefer the open matte version cus it shows extra animation and background art, or the widescreen version cus it's Cinematique, well, life is Fantastique :D



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The DVD has actually 4 times the quality of this pic. The PAL one, 5. The Blu one 50.
Academy's aspect ratio is 1.375
Sugar is schweet.
Do people ever really read this tiny stuff? :P