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That's something I realize everytime I watch ALICE. Not in the way of jokes obviously but in the way the stories are told. They're both quick in pace and just fun.

I think that is why Alice stands so well despite how old it is.

Who else thinks the same way I do or similar?

I can see where you are coming from, in that they are both quite surrealist in their presentation of the story.

However, where Alice is dreamlike - something some members of this board maintain is episodic in nature - New Groove is over the top comedy. Neither give the audience a chance to breath and catch the last joke, and I think this is a strength in both films - their fast pace.

However, I wouldn't say they are indentical in any means. Alice's adventure is a dream, where Kuzco's is almost a road-runner cartoon - very much in 'Looney Tunes' tradition anyways. To think it started life as a boring Prince of Egypt-meets-Pocahontas tale is mindblowng. The fact that they dumped Owen Wilson is a bummer though.

At any rate, I do see the similarites you are talking about, but I think the tone is different, with New Groove having a 'modern' sensibility (despite the ancient setting).

Loomis wrote:I can see where you are coming from, in that they are both quite surrealist in their presentation of the story.

However, where Alice is dreamlike - something some members of this board maintain is a episodic nature - New Groove is over the top comedy. Neither give the audience a chance to breath and catch the last joke, and I think this is a strength in both films - their fast pace.

However, I wouldn't say they are indentical in any means. Alice's adventure is a dream, where Kuzco's is almost a road-runner cartoon - very much in 'Looney Tunes' tradition anyways. To think it started life as a boring Prince of Egypt-meets-Pocahontas tale is mindblowng. The fact that they dumped Owen Wilson is a bummer though.

At any rate, I do see the similarites you are talking about, but I think the tone is different, with New Groove having a 'modern' sensibility (despite the ancient setting).

Couldn't agree with you more, Loomis! Also, I think that The Three Caballeros and the genie scenes in Aladdin are similar to Alice in Wonderland, as they're pretty wacky, fast and surreal.

I agree with both Loomis and Wonderlicious. Alice's humor relies more on wit and word play than bust-your-gut gags like Emperor's New Groove. The former's entertainment stems not just from the humor, but in the marvelous sights you're seeing in Alice's dream. The latter's major selling point is its actual humor and its goal is to make you laugh whereas Alice's goal is simply to entertain one way or another. Both are among my favorite Disney films, though, and it's amazing how they managed to make such great films out of two projects that had such problems (it seems Disney works better under pressure).